Better brother,Itachi or Madara

[Lightbringer]

had sasuke not dedicated his life to killing itachi, he wouldnt have to fight killer bee etc.

its fine if you'd rather be madara's dead brother im cool with that. :|

So your entire argument has become it's better to be Sasuke than Izuna....instead of who's the better brother

The only justification you can give me is that Itachi's brother survived. That's like saying a serial rapist is better than a serial killer because their victims survived. That doesn't make them good people.

 

[Conspirator.]

had sasuke not dedicated his life to killing itachi, he wouldnt have to fight killer bee etc.

its fine if you'd rather be madara's dead brother im cool with that. :|

Still doesn't disprove his point about the shinobis having a chance of death. Refer to my example of the haku/land of waves incident.

 

[paratise]

Madara for obvious reasons.

 

[ShiroT]

So your entire argument has become it's better to be Sasuke than Izuna....instead of who's the better brother

The only justification you can give me is that Itachi's brother survived. That's like saying a serial rapist is better than a serial killer because their victims survived. That doesn't make them good people.

being a good brother is based on the conditions of your brother. therefor how sasuke lived decideds wether itachi was a good brother.

madara has no brothers.

yes my argument is solely based on the fact that itachi's brother is alive.

again if you think being killed is better then being raped then by all means live by that opinion :|

the question is who is the better brother. to be a good brother you have to look at the persons brother i.e itachi and sasuke, madara and his 5-10 brothers. based on the fact that sasuke is alive and i consider being alive an important thing, i've concluded that itachi is the better brother because madara couldnt protect his. if you wanted to consider how good of a mother someone was, you'd have to look at there son/daughter and not at the mother herself

just like if you wanted to argue who was the better criminal, one family would say "my daughter was raped" the other "my daughter and or other family members/friends were kidnapped and killed in someone's basement". im not saying rape is ok but its the better evil of the two.

 

[God of War]

If Madara wouldn't form the alliance with Senju. Itachi and Sasuke wouldn't exist.

 

[ShiroT]

Still doesn't disprove his point about the shinobis having a chance of death. Refer to my example of the haku/land of waves incident.

dude. be dead. i am perfectly fine with you dieing in some war because you was related to madara :|. i have no problem with you being murdered.

personally i will choose to be alive and follow the path of hatred(if i was sasuke) or live my own life.

you saying haku almost killed sasuke has nothing to do with itachi. sasuke was a prodigy before the massacre and wouldve likely still been in team 7. sasuke didnt fight haku because of his drive to kill itachi, so itachi killing his clan had no influence over that event

 

[Conspirator.]

being a good brother is based on the conditions of your brother. therefor how sasuke lived decideds wether itachi was a good brother.

madara has no brothers.

yes my argument is solely based on the fact that itachi's brother is alive.

again if you think being killed is better then being raped then by all means live by that opinion :|

the question is who is the better brother. to be a good brother you have to look at the persons brother i.e itachi and sasuke, madara and his 5-10 brothers. based on the fact that sasuke is alive and i consider being alive an important thing, i've concluded that itachi is the better brother because madara couldnt protect his.

just like if you wanted to argue who was the better criminal, one family would say "my daughter was raped" the other "my daughter and or other family members/friends were kidnapped and killed in someone's basement". im not saying rape is ok but its the better evil of the two.

That's a terrible,terrible argument. Since the reason why Sasuke is alive isn't solely due to Itachi. He could have died numerous times in the manga. Madara's brothers weren't killed because of him. At least Madara didn't kill his family, and brutally torture him(twice!). Hell even pre massacre Itachi/Sasuke didn't spend much time together.

 

[Lightbringer]

being a good brother is based on the conditions of your brother. therefor how sasuke lived decideds wether itachi was a good brother.

madara has no brothers.

yes my argument is solely based on the fact that itachi's brother is alive.

again if you think being killed is better then being raped then by all means live by that opinion :|

the question is who is the better brother. to be a good brother you have to look at the persons brother i.e itachi and sasuke, madara and his 5-10 brothers. based on the fact that sasuke is alive and i consider being alive an important thing, i've concluded that itachi is the better brother because madara couldnt protect his.

just like if you wanted to argue who was the better criminal, one family would say "my daughter was raped" the other "my daughter and or other family members/friends were kidnapped and killed in someone's basement". im not saying rape is ok but its the better evil of the two.

That's a horrible definition of what a better brother is. By your logic, the better one can have his brother locked up in a small room and feed him scraps of food all of his life. But he survives, so he's a good brother.

Being a good brother or even being a good human being is about showing compassion, love, and taking the time to be there for them.

Itachi never spent time with Sasuke and Sasuke hardly knew him.

Madara spent time with Izuna and they respected each other as equals.

Sounds like Madara was more brotherly than Izuna.


No one can control when death comes, which is exactly what you're blaming Madara for.



Some victims kill themselves after being raped because it was that horrible of an experience. Rape demoralizes a human into something less. Being killed is just being killed.

 

[shelke]

Sasuke survived nothing but by grace of miracle through his journey. When he faced Orochimaru, his bite miraculously didn't kill him. Sasuke miraculously didn't make it in time and his body was spared. Then Orochimaru tried to take over his body again. Bee nearly killed him. He had the whole summit against him.

Itachi had nothing to do with Sasuke's survival.

 

[BLAZE]

no im saying life goes own, you make new friends, enjoy new things, maybe find a new family.

be madara's brother and you'd be dead. if you think thats the better option for you then im totally fine with tht

Death >>>>> Sasuke's life tbh

So your entire argument has become it's better to be Sasuke than Izuna....instead of who's the better brother

The only justification you can give me is that Itachi's brother survived. That's like saying a serial rapist is better than a serial killer because their victims survived. That doesn't make them good people.

lel his post r funny becoz
Itachi asked Sasuke to become powerfull and come to face him with same eyes
Sasuke left the village after itachi's provoking him 'why r u so weak u lack hatred'
Sasuke went on Roaring rampage of revenge becoz of obito becoz itachi planned a brilliant drama
OT:I have no problem with itachi as a fictional char whose action is plot

 

[lucario14]

That's a horrible definition of what a better brother is. By your logic, the better one can have his brother locked up in a small room and feed him scraps of food all of his life. But he survives, so he's a good brother.

Being a good brother or even being a good human being is about showing compassion, love, and taking the time to be there for them.

Itachi never spent time with Sasuke and Sasuke hardly knew him.

Madara spent time with Izuna and they respected each other as equals.

Sounds like Madara was more brotherly than Izuna.


No one can control when death comes, which is exactly what you're blaming Madara for.



Some victims kill themselves after being raped because it was that horrible of an experience. Rape demoralizes a human into something less. Being killed is just being killed.

@bolded argument over let's go play outside now.

 

[ShiroT]

So your entire argument has become it's better to be Sasuke than Izuna....instead of who's the better brother

The only justification you can give me is that Itachi's brother survived. That's like saying a serial rapist is better than a serial killer because their victims survived. That doesn't make them good people.

lets look at it from another perspective.

we have two mothers. one is a murderer, another is a hard working citizen.

the hard worker lost her daughter to gang violence. the murder still has her son who she secretly takes care of.

to decide who is the better mother you have to look at the child and not the mother herself. sure the murderer is a bad person but her child is alive and cared for. sure the hardworker is a good person but she couldnt teach her child or protect them from gangs. so to say the hardworker is a better mother solely based on her character and not her "mothering" isnt good.

 

[Lightbringer]

lel his post r funny becoz
Itachi asked Sasuke to become powerfull and come to face him with same eyes
Sasuke left the village after itachi's provoking him 'why r u so weak u lack hatred'
Sasuke went on Roaring rampage of revenge becoz of obito becoz itachi planned a brilliant drama
OT:I have no problem with itachi as a fictional char whose action is plot

let's not forget that Itachi also tried getting Sasuke to kill Naruto, who was his best-friend at the time. What kind of brother would do that?

I like Itachi, he's actually one of my favorites, but I hate it when his fans just ride him all the time like he has no flaws.

 

[Lightbringer]

lets look at it from another perspective.

we have two mothers. one is a murderer, another is a hard working citizen.

the hard worker lost her daughter to gang violence. the murder still has her son who she secretly takes care of.

to decide who is the better mother you have to look at the child and not the mother herself. sure the murderer is a bad person but her child is alive and cared for. sure the hardworker is a good person but she couldnt teach her child or protect them from gangs. so to say the hardworker is a better mother solely based on her character and not her "mothering" isnt good.

That's such a ****ing stupid argument.

You're blaming the mom on something that was out of her control. Did she call the gang and tell them to shoot up the place? No mother wants her child to die. It's circumstantial that they did.

I could be walking on the street and get mugged and stabbed. That doesn't mean my parents sucked.

 

[ShiroT]

That's a horrible definition of what a better brother is. By your logic, the better one can have his brother locked up in a small room and feed him scraps of food all of his life. But he survives, so he's a good brother.

Being a good brother or even being a good human being is about showing compassion, love, and taking the time to be there for them.

Itachi never spent time with Sasuke and Sasuke hardly knew him.

Madara spent time with Izuna and they respected each other as equals.

Sounds like Madara was more brotherly than Izuna.


No one can control when death comes, which is exactly what you're blaming Madara for.



Some victims kill themselves after being raped because it was that horrible of an experience. Rape demoralizes a human into something less. Being killed is just being killed.

being a good brother he wouldve talked his younger out of war especially after the shitstomping his clan was getting. lets say there is a gang of murderers. they are all brothers who love each other. just because the oldest loves his brother does that make him a good brother? no he is allowing/leading them down a path of crime without ever trying to stop them. this life leads to all of them being killed. but he loved his brothers so its cool right?

 

[ShiroT]

That's such a ****ing stupid argument.

You're blaming the mom on something that was out of her control. Did she call the gang and tell them to shoot up the place? No mother wants her child to die. It's circumstantial that they did.

I could be walking on the street and get mugged and stabbed. That doesn't mean my parents sucked.

the daughter is in a gang, if you didnt get that from the text then im letting you know, she lost her daughter to gang violence because she was in a gang. the mother failed to bring her daughter up so that this would be avoided.

 

[BLAZE]

lets look at it from another perspective.

we have two mothers. one is a murderer, another is a hard working citizen.

the hard worker lost her daughter to gang violence. the murder still has her son who she secretly takes care of.

to decide who is the better mother you have to look at the child and not the mother herself. sure the murderer is a bad person but her child is alive and cared for. sure the hardworker is a good person but she couldnt teach her child or protect them from gangs. so to say the hardworker is a better mother solely based on her character and not her "mothering" isnt good.

Does the bolded killed all of her kins,showed their death to her 8 y.o son mindraping,made him a monster of hate ,asked him to kill his closest freind.
And all of this Becoz a WARHAWK said their will be a war.
And the WARHAWK guy basically repeats same $#!t 10 years later lmao.
On either case i will not choose the bolded as great mother

 

[ShiroT]

let's not forget that Itachi also tried getting Sasuke to kill Naruto, who was his best-friend at the time. What kind of brother would do that?

I like Itachi, he's actually one of my favorites, but I hate it when his fans just ride him all the time like he has no flaws.

i never said itachi had no flaws. i said being alive is better then being dead and if you'd rather be dead then AGAIN i have nothing to say about that

 

[ShiroT]

Does the bolded killed all of hers kins,showed their death to her 8 y.o son mindraping,made him a monster of hate ,asked him to kill his closest freind.
And all of this Becoz a WARHAWK said their will be a war.
And the WARHAWK guys basically repeats same $#!t 10 years later lmao.
On either case i will not choose the bolded as great mother

its fine be dead lol i have no problem with that Lol

 

[Lightbringer]

the daughter is in a gang, if you didnt get that from the text then im letting you know, she lost her daughter to gang violence because she was in a gang. the mother failed to bring her daughter up so that this would be avoided.

Parents can't control every action of their child. They're human, and human's have flaws. I know some people got addicted to heroine and some that ended up in jail, yet their parents were incredibly nice honest working people who still love their child regardless of what they did.

The environment does more to a child than the parents. If you were influenced 100% by your parents, then you would be exactly like them and I have yet to see a child exactly like his parent.