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This is a scan of them beating Oars not them fighting and beating Moria. Also remember how you said when Luffy got ko'd against Kaido but woke up a few minutes later that made it a new fight? Well Moria comes back in a few minutes so wouldn't that make it a new fight where Luffy fughts him...

Idk without Flampe Kata doesn't injure himself. And with no injury Kata seemed like he would win the fight. We can agree the damage Flampe did to Luffy was smaller than what Kata did to himself yeah?

If those attacks "did no real damage" then all the examples you tried to use where there was literally no damage done don't count either. Do you realize you're contradicting your initial point here? First you said Luffy always receives help against the main villain and used examples where...

Yes there's a big difference between fighting people a few hours before another fight and fighting multiple people at once. Multiple attacks from multiple angles no rest between attackers do I need more reasons? Also we both know none of those fights for Croc meant anything as none of those...

First off I never said it mattered, just pointing out an observation. Secondly I said major arc villains. Helping Luffy after a fight ends isn't the same as helping him in the fight. No one helped him fight or beat Croc. Zoro and Sanji while buying time for Luffy also did no real damage in...

I was thinking about it the other day and while we're seeing Luffy at the strongest we've ever seen him we haven't seen him 1v1 a major arc villain since Caesar. The fight against Doffy he had Law. Against BM he had Bege(they didn't defeat her then but still) Against Kata, Kata damaged himself...