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Because that's called having a backbone. Would you live in a place with the children of someone that murdered and badmouthed your own parents? Specially if the children know all about it and never showed true remorse for it? Think again.
So Mitsuki should be treated like shit by everyone because of Orochimaru? The child should inherit punishment for the Parent's sins? By your logic Mitsuki should be shunned.

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Information about the massacre is restricted. All that's none is that they were killed.

Also: the murderous rulers are still in charge -Homura and Koharu. And doing their old politics.
Deep down Naruto is just a happy puppet./QUOTE]

They're just around. Wheres your proof that they're actually doing anything with their orders actually being followed?

Did you see any Uchiha park? No. just Senju park.
Have you read Boruto? The Uchiha are respected. Sasuke is reknowned as the "Supporting Shadow." And has the highest rank on par with Naruto in the popular ninja card game. In one of the early episodes, Shikadai referered to Sarada as "Lady Sarada." An honorific used for those of royale lineage. The only other woman to be referred to like this is Tsunade. Furthermore, Sarada is clearly popular amongst her peers.

The genocide will be complete when Salad marries into the very family that helped to conceal the tragedy of the clan.
Ironic how you speak as if Sarada will lose the Uchiha name when she marries as if the Senju name has actually been passed on. Tsunade is Hashirama's Grandaughter yet we don't even know her last name. She's been called "Princess Tsunade", "Lady Tsunade", "Sanin", and "the Legendary loser" (for her gambling exploits), yet never Tsunade Senju onscreen.

We can safely assumed that the Senju clan diminished.
 

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So Mitsuki should be treated like shit by everyone because of Orochimaru? The child should inherit punishment for the Parent's sins? By your logic Mitsuki should be shunned.

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Information about the massacre is restricted. All that's none is that they were killed.
I'm talking about the children in my example. Answer the question: Would you live in a place with the children of someone that murdered and badmouthed your own parents?
 
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Current Konoha isn't like Pre-Tsunade era. Especially nowadays. Whose in charge? Naruto and Shikamaru. People Sasuke personally knows. Prior to them was Kakashi, whom Sasuke knows. Sasuke's generation weren't Uchiha oppressors/discriminators. Why should he, especially Sarada, have beef with them when they didn't inherit their elders ways?
The elders are still alive, their advice is still sought and acted upon. Those that carried out the will of the elders and spied on the Uchiha clan, helped in their persecution are still alive. Sasuke took Itachi's place as their *****, and is rearing his daughter to service them and their descendents.



Madara is dogshit compared to Sasuke.
Madara shits on Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and his daughter.

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I think Sasuke should commit Sepoku and revive Madara when Sarada's of age, at least he'll produce some real Uchiha. Otherwise she'll be reduced to a cheap piece of meat for some mongrel and the name will disappear for good.
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Did you see any Uchiha park? No. just Senju park.
The Uchiha district is gone and was never rebuilt, the park is non-existent, no monument, even the tablet is outside of the village and nobody can read it. Sasuke's contribution to the legacy is training his rivals son and letting his daughter serve the system.
 
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I'm talking about the children in my example.
I was clearly correlating Mitsuki to the kids given the similarities and your skills of deduction are garbage given you need a direct answer because obvious context clues weren't enough.

Answer the question: Would you live in a place with the children of someone that murdered and badmouthed your own parents?
Yes, the kids didn't inherit the Parent's sins. They don't follow their beliefs. Times have changed. We're in a rightful era of peace. Sasuke is ensuring that the Uchiha's village proposers.

The elders are still alive, their advice is still sought and acted upon. Those that carried out the will of the elders and spied on the Uchiha clan, helped in their persecution are still alive. Sasuke took Itachi's place as their *****, and is rearing his daughter to service them and their descendents.
The elders live their lives everyday knowing Sasuke murdered their buddy Danzo, got away with it scott-free and is even celebrated as a hero. As for the others, are you really saying he should hunt down and slaughter everyone involved?

Madara already tainted the Uchiha name enough. Turned traitor. Failed to defeat Hashirama (Uchiha were known as the only ones able to combat the Senju. But now their leader lost to the Senju's leader whom leads the village that both clans founded with the Uchiha being in positions under him, then his brother. Rather than both clans uniting and the Uchiha being nice enough to LET the Senju bros be Hokage for the time - HORRIBLE). Then he returned from the dead and launched a failed war with his successor after his successor fucked things up earlier.

Things were already bad enough when Obito summoned the Kyuubi and got bodied by the current Hokage (just like Madara against Hashirama, he really is his successor. This resulted in the Uchiha's persecution, which caused the rebellion, which gave the elders an excuse for genocide using Itachi whom otherwise would have worked to prosper both Uchiha and Konoha. Itachi became an infamous criminal known as a kin killer. While the Uchiha became known as a tragic clan on the verge of extinction.

After the events of the war Sasuke had to restore faith in the Uchiha that had been diminished. But rather than do that, you're saying he should have sought revenge like Madara and Obito did? Ridiculous. I'm glad he didn't follow the path of proven failures. Now he's reknowned worldwide as Uchiha Sasuke, the Supporting Shadow.

Madara shits on Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and his daughter.

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This stage of Sarada is fodder BS. Easily ignorable as it lasted only a bit of time & only a few people are aware of it. Take note of his actual legacy as he's already more respected than any Uchiha before him.

I think Sasuke should commit Sepoku and revive Madara when Sarada's of age, at least he'll produce some real Uchiha. Otherwise she'll be reduced to a cheap piece of meat for some mongrel and the name will disappear for good.
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That was digusting. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking it.


The Uchiha district is gone and was never rebuilt, the park is non-existent, no monument, even the tablet is outside of the village and nobody can read it. Sasuke's contribution to the legacy is training his rivals son and letting his daughter serve the system.
Sasuke didn't recieve inheritance property from the clan post-reconstruction, Instead he built from scratch. His brand is so big that despite having turned criminal as a result of Madara's legacy annihilating the clan he failed to protect, Sasuke is hailed in the same, if not greater regards as Naruto - known as the greatest in history.

Did you read the Mujina Bandit arc?

Adult Sasuke's card in a ninja card game in honor of famous ninja throughout history is even rarer than Naruto's.

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(There's different variations, kid Sasuke has a card aswell).

Extreme ninja card's are the Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh card games of the Naruto world. Our reality with Pokemon & Yu-Gi-Oh is the perfect representation of the how popular the ninja cards are in Naruto (which is a given considering it's inspired from them). Generations of kids will grow up collecting these cards. Hearing about these legends.

Sasuke's legend will expand across the generations bringing good rep for the Uchiha. Sarada will follow suit. Whereas Madara and his successor don't even have a gravestone.

Lmfao concession accepted. I love seeing you have your ass handed to you by literally everyone in this thread; Stay triggered, my friend. :lmao:
Exhausted Mangekyo Sasuke>Chojuro>Black Zetsu>Madara.
 
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The elders live their lives everyday knowing Sasuke murdered their buddy Danzo, got away with it scott-free and is even celebrated as a hero. As for the others, are you really saying he should hunt down and slaughter everyone involved?
@bold: I'm sure they're shaking in their boots, I'm sure they're still not advising the Hokage. Yes he should've hunted down and killed all those involved.

-cut out Emo irrelevant rant,

Things were already bad enough when Obito summoned the Kyuubi and got bodied by the current Hokage (just like Madara against Hashirama, he really is his successor. This resulted in the Uchiha's persecution, which caused the rebellion, which gave the elders an excuse for genocide using Itachi whom otherwise would have worked to prosper both Uchiha and Konoha. Itachi became an infamous criminal known as a kin killer. While the Uchiha became known as a tragic clan on the verge of extinction.
I saw a Hokage commit suicide because he was too fodder to defeat Madara's successor. The Uchiha were already being persecuted and oppressed since the time of Tobirama. You should also read Itachi Shinden, long bwfore the attack the Uchiha were treated like trash. Itachi's existence made the Senju descendant salty so he decided to jump onto their dick.


After the events of the war Sasuke had to restore faith in the Uchiha that had been diminished. But rather than do that, you're saying he should have sought revenge like Madara and Obito did? Ridiculous. I'm glad he didn't follow the path of proven failures. Now he's reknowned worldwide as Uchiha Sasuke, the Supporting Shadow.
Keep dreaming, Sasuke became a lil ***** like his brother. He restored nothing of the Uchiha name.


Madara shits on Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and his daughter.

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This stage of Sarada is fodder BS. Easily ignorable as it lasted only a bit of time & only a few people are aware of it. Take note of his actual legacy as he's already more respected than any Uchiha before him.
No he's not this, he's only respected as a good ***** and his daughter's(his legacy) is trying to take that mantle from him. This is the real Sarada and Uchiha Sasuke's legacy. If he wasn't being a good ***** he could've raised his daughter properly.



That was digusting. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking this.
What's disgusting about it? She's already spreading Sasuke's GREATNESS(look at his legacy spoiler) and making the Uchiha famous across the village. Sasuke committing suicide and reviving Madara to restore the Uchiha clan will save her from becoming the whorekage, producing super mongrels children and the Uchiha name disappearing. It's a win for all parties involved.




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Senju get park, Sasuke resorting Uchiha legacy gets?


Sasuke's legend will expand across the generations bringing good rep for the Uchiha. Sarada will follow suit. Whereas Madara and his successor don't even have a gravestone.
What legend, the good dog Sasuke raised a super mongrel instead of his own daughter? His own legacy became the promiscuous Whorekage bearing another's name and his dysfunctional dick was responsible for Uchiha extinction?



Exhausted Mangekyo Sasuke>Chojuro>Black Zetsu>Madara.
Chojuro > Black Zetsu > 1/2 of BZ > Rinnegan Sasuke.

You can try spin it anyway you like, but the facts remain Sasuke's has become trash and his daughters already there. No amount of fanboying can change that.
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Lmfao concession accepted. I love seeing you have your ass handed to you by literally everyone in this thread; Stay triggered, my friend. :lmao:
Nice solo
 
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@bold: I'm sure they're shaking in their boots, I'm sure they're still not advising the Hokage. Yes he should've hunted down and killed all those involved.
Apparently you missed the point about how they can't do shit about Sasuke. They wanted the Uchiha exterminated. Bringing a close to the clan's history, yet they failed and live with the results.

-cut out Emo irrelevant rant,
You don't want to hold Madara accountable for his actions How is it irrelevant when Madara's failures created the entire storyline? Had he succeeded everything would be different. There would be no current Sasuke and Sarada for you to desperately downplay.

I saw a Hokage commit suicide because he was too fodder to defeat Madara's successor. The Uchiha were already being persecuted and oppressed since the time of Tobirama. You should also read Itachi Shinden, long bwfore the attack the Uchiha were treated like trash. Itachi's existence made the Senju descendant salty so he decided to jump onto their dick.
So you pick and chose which novels are filler? The Uchiha were oppressed politically. But they weren't persecuted socially (relocated to the outskirts, survelled 24/7 for several years), until the Kyuubi attack. They shouldn't have ever experienced this as 1) Madara should have been good enough to succeed back in his day. 2) He should have raised an actual good successor who doesn't help Konoha murder all the Uchiha on Madara's side and even innocents.

You never replied to my point about this the other day. Initially your dumb excuse for why Obito killed everyone was to get Itachi. Which is utterly stupid given Itachi was a known Konoha fanboy. Obito killed an army of Madara supporters for a Madara hater. Smart move. Obito relied on a said hater and a group of strangers (Akatsuki) to capture all the Biju instead of his own clan whom possessed the one weapon readily available to control the Biju.

Uchiha army>Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu & Konan but the only reason she's staying is because she's Nagato's side kick.

Keep dreaming, Sasuke became a lil ***** like his brother. He restored nothing of the Uchiha name.
Lol and what did Madara do? What does the world know him as?

No he's not this, he's only respected as a good ***** and his daughter's(his legacy) is trying to take that mantle from him. This is the real Sarada and Uchiha Sasuke's legacy. If he wasn't being a good ***** he could've raised his daughter properly.
Madara raising Obito in that shitty cave is better? Growing up to fail like he did. Meanwhile Sarada is living in a safe, peaceful environment aiming to achieve the highest position of the village (which in the past her clan was restricted from) & knowing her Father is a legend. The Uchiha would be proud.

What's disgusting about it? She's already spreading Sasuke's GREATNESS(look at his legacy spoiler) and making the Uchiha famous across the village. Sasuke committing suicide and reviving Madara to restore the Uchiha clan will save her from becoming the whorekage, producing super mongrels children and the Uchiha name disappearing. It's a win for all parties involved.
Madara is trash. Had fodder kid(s) who produced fodder kid(s) etc down to Obito who was the known loser of the clan. Obito died to a boulder push by a fodder and Madara needed to manipulate his own descendant inorder to get him on his side. Madara gave him his identity and Obito failed time and again with Madara ultimately wishing he could have used Sasuke in Obito's place.

Senju get park, Sasuke resorting Uchiha legacy gets?
Already answered but you clearly running away from facts like Madara did Hashirama living in a cave for decades. Worldwide praise throughout generations>a park.

What legend, the good dog Sasuke raised a super mongrel instead of his own daughter? His own legacy became the promiscuous Whorekage bearing another's name and his dysfunctional dick was responsible for Uchiha extinction?
What's Madara's legacy of decendants? Dead fodders whom he didn't even bother to recruit opting to let them be killed off by his successor even though they would have succeeded.
 

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Apparently you missed the point about how they can't do shit about Sasuke. They wanted the Uchiha exterminated. Bringing a close to the clan's history, yet they failed and live with the results.
Are you dysfunctional like Sasuke's dick? They've exterminated the Uchiha, Sasuke's their ***** and the daughter will service the Senju clan and mongrel descendants. She will bear anothers name.


So you pick and chose which novels are filler? The Uchiha were oppressed politically. But they weren't persecuted socially (relocated to the outskirts, survelled 24/7 for several years), until the Kyuubi attack. They shouldn't have ever experienced this as 1) Madara should have been good enough to succeed back in his day. 2) He should have raised an actual good successor who doesn't help Konoha murder all the Uchiha on Madara's side and even innocents.
Those novels have no contradiction and are details of the actual canon events. On that point, no they were persecuted long before that. They were turned into a police force, keptnear the police station so they could be seen as villians and dealt with as and when any kage saw fit. Being in the outskirts gave escape routes instead of being trapped.


They were killed for Itachi and weren't Madara supporters. Not once did any of them say Uchiha Madara was right or we agree with him.

Uchiha army>Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu & Konan but the only reason she's staying is because she's Nagato's side kick.
already addressed above.


Lol and what did Madara do? What does the world know him as?
God knows, the greatest Uchiha, the one who's name united the 5 great nations. The one who solo'd entire divisions.



Madara raising Obito in that shitty cave is better? Growing up to fail like he did. Meanwhile Sarada is living in a safe, peaceful environment aiming to achieve the highest position of the village (which in the past her clan was restricted from) & knowing her Father is a legend. The Uchiha would be proud.
Madara raised the most Hax descendant while Sasuke's dysfucntional dick produced a successor, who's being raised as one who wants to outdo her father and uncle in the ***** department. Look at how she dresses and behaves trying to garner favoured status amongst the Senju descendants and the mongrels

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While Madara's dick produced the most Hax character and dojutsu in the NV. It's only rational Sasuke commit suicide and revive him to restore the Uchiha clan, help Sarada preserve the name and start dressing like an honourable person instead of like her father(a *****). His own dysfunctional dick resulted in this

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His legacy is no different to a cheap *****'s, putting in overtime. There's still time to save the Uchiha clan from extinction and it takes him using Rinne Tensei.

What praise? Good ***** of Konoha? People remember the Pyramids and not the Pharaohs. Park> pawns Whoresuke. Also Madara recognised Sasuke's whorish nature and though he would make a good dog.
 
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Are you dysfunctional like Sasuke's dick? They've exterminated the Uchiha, Sasuke's their ***** and the daughter will service the Senju clan and mongrel descendants. She will bear anothers name.
The Uchiha's name lives strong. Not thanks to Madara though.

Those novels have no contradiction and are details of the actual canon events. On that point, no they were persecuted long before that. They were turned into a police force, keptnear the police station so they could be seen as villians and dealt with as and when any kage saw fit. Being in the outskirts gave escape routes instead of being trapped.
How ironic. Nowadays the remaining Uchiha is kept nowhere. Geos wherever he pleases, is seen as a hero, deals with villains, and has a kid whose also able to pursue what she wants not tide down by the goverment. Amazing how you attempt to make this sound bad. Madara and his successor's Konoha were bad for the Uchiha.

They were killed for Itachi
Which accomplished nothing in favor of Madara & Obito.

and weren't Madara supporters. Not once did any of them say Uchiha Madara was right or we agree with him.


Clone (Obito) acknowledging there were Madara supporters. Yet does nothing to recruit them.

Even worse.



Clone (Obito) acknowledges the clan (a large group of people), planned to overthrow Konoha's leadership to gain control of the village themselves.

Yet does nothing to recruit them. Instead chooses to side with genocidal kin murderer Itachi. Thereby becoming a genocidal kin murderer himself. Smart move. Let's Danzo get away with several Sharingan. Clone (Obito) takes most of the Sharingan yet does nothing with them aside from Izanagi against Konan. Never lays a finger on Danzo til the man is dead from Sasuke killing him.

Instead of helping the Uchiha take control of the village, Clone (Obito) would rather kill them, and scheme on destroying it like he's been doing for years



Clone (Obito) acknowledging that he has grudges against Konoha and Uchiha. Keep in mind he is saying this as Madara's successor. Someone who gained his beliefs and was given his identity. Clone (Obito) is an accurate representation of Madara. When Madara came back he didn't contradict this at all. He wasn't upset even in the slightest about the Uchiha being annihilated. He expected it to be carried out by his successor - Clone (Obito).

Madara wanted the Uchiha dead along with the village. What do you think he was going to do with the Kyuubi had he beaten Hashirama? Clone (Obito) attempted to carry out his will. Hence the Kyuubi attack.

Ironic of you Madara supporters to downplay Itachi for killing the clan when Madara personally would have done the same if he could. He indirectly did through Clone (Obito). The clan was wiped out when he was a powerless child, but atleast Sasuke can protect their legacy (Konoha).

You guys critcize Sasuke for siding with Konoha and not killing those involved with the massacre yet despite being big fans of the guy, overlook how Madara himself schemed on the clan's genocide. Then you make dumb excuses for his successor teaming up with Itachi.

Tobirama kills his brother & Madara let's him get away with it, then Madara helpes him wipe out the rest of the clan. Nice job.

already addressed above.
With bs.

God knows, the greatest Uchiha, the one who's name united the 5 great nations. The one who solo'd entire divisions.
Said name didn't scare Danzo who tried challenging him (Clone (Obito) ) with Uchiha eyes then got killed by Sasuke several times. Just a little bit earlier Sasuke TANKED an attack that ONE-SHOTTED the guy who ONE-SHOTTED Madara in his strongest form.

Madara raised the most Hax descendant while Sasuke's dysfucntional dick produced a successor, who's being raised as one who wants to outdo her father and uncle in the ***** department. Look at how she dresses and behaves trying to garner favoured status amongst the Senju descendants and the mongrels

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While Madara's dick produced the most Hax character and dojutsu in the NV. It's only rational Sasuke commit suicide and revive him to restore the Uchiha clan, help Sarada preserve the name and start dressing like an honourable person instead of like her father(a *****). His own dysfunctional dick resulted in this

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His legacy is no different to a cheap *****'s, putting in overtime. There's still time to save the Uchiha clan from extinction and it takes him using Rinne Tensei.
You just reminded me of how Clone (Obito) betrayed Madara and teamed up with Konoha in the form of Team 7. And on his final breaths didn't Madara express regret to Hashirama? I recall Madara saying something about how he couldn't raise successors because he didn't like people following his back. Basically he admitted inferiority. The Uchiha with him as a leader was destined to fail. While Hashirama was someone who could garner support.

What praise? Good ***** of Konoha? People remember the Pyramids and not the Pharaohs.
If people didn't remember the Pharaohs then why are you even aware of them enough to mention them?

Park> pawns Whoresuke.
The park is only in Konoha. Meanwhile the ninja card game at the very least is within all the Shinobi lands. Maybe even further. Even civilian kids like Tento in a time of peace are aware of the famous Shinobi.

Also Madara recognised Sasuke's whorish nature and though he would make a good dog.
Nope. Madara realized his successor was a failure so he started daydreaming about how things would be if he had Sasuke on his side.

And lol @ Anime Buffoon. Reduced to relying on Salamander. Poor guy.
 

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You've not presenting anything significant on you're end. You haven't told us or explained how they're not whores. The desperation in your posts confirms Madara pawns Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and his legacy(Sarada).
You atleast manage conjure up a garbage rebuttal to Sasuke & Sarada but didn't say a thing about my points against Madara and Clone (Obito). It's gotten to the point where you can't even shit out excuses.

And like i said before, donwplay Sasuke and Sarada all you want. It just makes Madara look even worse given they are the result of his failures. What about protecting the Uchiha? What about creating peace with the village system? What about creating a dream world where there are only winners? He died twice failing on all accounts. Now you mock the current Uchiha as if he's not responsible for anything.
 
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Canon facts aren't a garbage rebuttal. So far I've not seen any tangible rebuttal from you only delfections. I'm not going to address fanfic claims you make as they'll lead to a circular debate.
We can't blame Madara for Sasuke being a *****, Madara left when Sasuke's ancestors chose to stay even though he tried to get them to leave. However, we can blame Sasuke and his brother.

We can't blame Madara for Sasuke's dick being too dysfunctional that it couldn't restore the Uchiha clan(pop out more Uchiha), Madara produced Hax dojutsu user Obito. Sasuke's to blame for abandoning his family, inability to use his dick and deciding to travel the world.

We can't blame Madara for Sasuke producing Sarada who dresses and behaves like a *****(like Sasuke) and wants to serve the system, will service senju descendants and give up her name for one form of mongrel or another.
We can't blame Madara for her weak chakra reserves or need to wear glasses. We can't blame Madara for Sasuke not staying to raise his daughter and turn her into a real Uchiha, instead he trains a super mongrel. That's all down to Sasuke, his poor choices and his dysfunctional dick.

You've got to place blame where it belongs and it belongs squarely with Sasuke. The sooner you accept that and not delfect the better it will be for you. All we've learnt so far is Madara pawns Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and his legacy(Sarada).
 
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I was clearly correlating Mitsuki to the kids given the similarities and your skills of deduction are garbage given you need a direct answer because obvious context clues weren't enough.



Yes, the kids didn't inherit the Parent's sins. They don't follow their beliefs. Times have changed. We're in a rightful era of peace. Sasuke is ensuring that the Uchiha's village proposers.

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My interpretation skills are bad? Tell me when Mitsuki had his clan badmouthed, slaughtered as dogs in the night and then we can talk.And if you want me to go through your bad logic: yes, if Mitsuki doesn't show remorse further ahead, he is not worth keeping around.
Also: I quoted an example of children that show no remorse of MURDER of your own parents. And you tell you'd live with such people?

Please, do yourself a favor: grow up or grow a backbone.

Not even Snow White would behave like you.
Sorry, not sorry.
 
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Canon facts aren't a garbage rebuttal. So far I've not seen any tangible rebuttal from you only delfections. I'm not going to address fanfic claims you make as they'll lead to a circular debate.
We can't blame Madara for Sasuke being a *****, Madara left when Sasuke's ancestors chose to stay even though he tried to get them to leave. However, we can blame Sasuke and his brother.

We can't blame Madara for Sasuke's dick being too dysfunctional that it couldn't restore the Uchiha clan(pop out more Uchiha), Madara produced Hax dojutsu user Obito. Sasuke's to blame for abandoning his family, inability to use his dick and deciding to travel the world.

We can't blame Madara for Sasuke producing Sarada who dresses and behaves like a *****(like Sasuke) and wants to serve the system, will service senju descendants and give up her name for one form of mongrel or another.
We can't blame Madara for her weak chakra reserves or need to wear glasses. We can't blame Madara for Sasuke not staying to raise his daughter and turn her into a real Uchiha, instead he trains a super mongrel. That's all down to Sasuke, his poor choices and his dysfunctional dick.

You've got to place blame where it belongs and it belongs squarely with Sasuke. The sooner you accept that and not delfect the better it will be for you. All we've learnt so far is Madara pawns Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and his legacy(Sarada).
I'm relating things to Madara inorder to point out his flaws more.

I started off defending Sasuke alone. Your constant criticism led me to realize how you're not critical with Madara at all even though logically you should be.

For example, you bash Sasuke for having 1 kid rather than expanding the clan. Yet excuse Madara helping to murder everyone. Had it not been for Madara there wouldn't be so much pressure on Sasuke to produce more Uchiha. Sasuke had absolutely nothing to do with the massacre. Madara did. You want Sasuke to rebuild what Madara destroyed, and act like Madara has no barring on your criticism of current Sasuke. Even though he clearly does.

Regardless of Sasuke, where is your criticism of Madara being abandoned by his clan? A leader is someone his subordinates should trust. Madara was a shitty leader so they turned against him. Instead of admitting this you blame the Uchiha. Not a single person sided with him. That's awful. His leadership skills were abysmal. Even though they disagreed they should still have enough faith in him to not ditch him altogether. The fact that they did shows that he failed on all accounts.

Meanwhile Hashirama and Tobirama had everyones supports including the Uchiha. That's the difference between winners and losers. The Senju bros managed to win over their former enemies. Madara couldn't even win over his own people, let alone others.

Wheres your criticism of Madara failing to beat Hashirama? Then raising a successor who failed to destroy Konoha, killed the Uchiha, failed to collect the Biju, and along with himself, failed to win the war. To you everything is everyone else's fault.

My interpretation skills are bad? Tell me when Mitsuki had his clan badmouthed, slaughtered as dogs in the night and then we can talk.And if you want me to go through your bad logic: yes, if Mitsuki doesn't show remorse further ahead, he is not worth keeping around.
Also: I quoted an example of children that show no remorse of MURDER of your own parents. And you tell you'd live with such people?

Please, do yourself a favor: grow up or grow a backbone.

Not even Snow White would behave like you.
Sorry, not sorry.
The kids don't know about the truth of the Uchiha massacre. Rather, they know of Sasuke as a legendary hero. This same Konoha you Madara supporters are shitting on, didn't expose Sasuke's connection to the Akatsuki or any of his past criminal actions. Instead they wanted and let him be revered as a hero. Do you see the old gen making protest against this? No, yet Sasuke should hold onto to grudges, kill them off, and leave his village. As if that's going to do good for the Uchiha name.

Itachi is hated for being a traitorous murderer who joined the Akatsuki. While Obito & Madara are hated as traitorous war mongerers who forced the world into Genjutsu after killing thousands of people. Rather than bring positivity to the Uchiha name, you guys want Sasuke to join his predeccors footsteps because of people who don't even view the Uchiha negatively anymore. Which is ironic because Sasuke not following their footsteps is what brought back faith in the Uchiha.
 
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No, yet Sasuke should hold onto to grudges, kill them off, and leave his village. As if that's going to do good for the Uchiha name.
It's not called holding a grudge. It's called being not an amoeba. Maybe you'd like to talk with Snow White. She is the apex of innocence, forgiveness in a character, and still wouldn't be living with someone who killed her parents.
Subduing to someone that wanted to see you crawling dead, and doing it because they offered them a good position could even be called demonic. Really. I know it's harsh, but I'd like you to think about that.
 
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It's not called holding a grudge. It's called being not an amoeba. Maybe you'd like to talk with Snow White. She is the apex of innocence, forgiveness in a character, and still wouldn't be living with someone who killed her parents.
Subduing to someone that wanted to see you crawling dead, and doing it because they offered them a good position could even be called demonic. Really. I know it's harsh, but I'd like you to think about that.
You say that as if any of them made any sort of deals with him to come to a compromise. Sasuke himself decided to protect his village and the world from the shadows. His good deads were appreciated so he became renowned worldwide as a hero. Everyone respected his efforts so much that they gave him his own Kage title. Uchiha Sasuke, the Sasaukage - Supporting Shadow.

But you actually think remaining a criminal and killing people who no longer bare ill-will toward the Uchiha, was a better decision. As if that would bring honor back to the Uchiha name. That's stupid.
 
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The problem with your criticisms is they're fabricated. However, the ones of Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and legacy are legitimate. Initial blame falls on the Uchiha clan(especially Sasuke's ancestors) for abandoning Madara. They wanted to take wood style and in return got isolated and relegated to the fringes of power. Then the blame falls on them for giving birth to a snake of the quality of Itachi, who was a true ***** of the oppressor. Final blame falls on Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and legacy.

I'll break it down for you:
Blame here goes into 4 stages, the first is to the traitors who didn't heed his warnings. Second to the Uchiha for becoming so weak and not having more kids or training them harder. Third to fugaku for his sperm producing talent with pure whorish tendencies. Finally resting on the shoulders of Sasuke, who could have rectified and fixed everything but didn't. He's not like anybody he has full knowledge, and know the consequences of his actions he's entirely to blame.

I'll say it again with additions Madara pawns Dasuke's ancestors, Sasuke, his dysfunctional dick and legacy(Sarada, I don't think you need to see the scan again).
 
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