MS Obito vs Mu

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Let's see here. Juubi Jin Madara clothes regenerated when his body was blown off does that means he has regnerating clothes? Not to mention it's common knowledge that the user clothes are going to presume the trait of their body seeing as Roushi covered his body in lava so does that means his clothes are tough enough to tank lava's heat? Etc i could go on and on but i think you get it...
That's a false analogy. Obito can kamui himself even when carrying weapons, same applies here. Obviously Kishi won't depict Roshi naked, so I don't see your point. Mu can do it, but he still loses as no one has managed to counter why the Sharingan cannot see right through it.
 

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That's a false analogy. Obito can kamui himself even when carrying weapons, same applies here. Obviously Kishi won't depict Roshi naked, so I don't see your point. Mu can do it, but he still loses as no one has managed to counter why the Sharingan cannot see right through it.
Kamui is far different because Obito can literally put stuff inside the Kamui dimension and has feats of doing so which Muu doesn't as i've said above. Plus if Muu could really turn things invisible by touch why didn't he pick up a rock and whack somebody over the head or do anything suggesting he could.
 

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Kamui is far different because Obito can literally put stuff inside the Kamui dimension and has feats of doing so which Muu doesn't as i've said above. Plus if Muu could really turn things invisible by touch why didn't he pick up a rock and whack somebody over the head or do anything suggesting he could.
Well it has to be in direct contact with him to do that. Even then, why would Mu use a jutsu that keeps him visible since his swords are always on his back? Highly illogical, doe if you wanna go by "scans or gtfo" then I guess you are partially correct.
 

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Obito never showed that speed of warping during his unmasked self. Kakashi buttraped this Obito in terms of CQC, and saw through his Genjutsu, and was portrayed the more powerful entity during that simulation.

Thus, Muu would shit on him, given his KCM avoiding levels of speed, invisibility, combos of the latter with Jinton or his blade, and radar sensing.

Masked Obito'd shit tho. BM Tier speeds, in addition to taking on 4 Kage Levels + his quicker than prepped Jinton warping speed. + he has them Chakra Rods and CQC speeds surpassing that of FTG Minato's. He's physically so quick that BM Naruto got vaped w/o Hatake's aid, and Kamui's kryptonite.

It could go mid diff if former decides to play around w/ his Kamui less arsenal although I don't see how he'd defeat the Mazo, and his reflexes in addition, when he could blindside him, while he's dealing with the energy shockwaves the statue exudes.

Tobi, low-mid diff.
 

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Lololol why would you assume he can stroll on over to Mu?
Because he strolled all over Oonoki and challenged all the other kages with no problem. He only said that he was too weak to go up against 5 nations all by himself.

So what is mu going to do with someone who’s controlled not only akatsuki but the water nation all by himself at the age of 20 years old? OP is talking about 31 year old Tobi/Obito.
 

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Because he strolled all over Oonoki and challenged all the other kages with no problem. He only said that he was too weak to go up against 5 nations all by himself.

So what is mu going to do with someone who’s controlled not only akatsuki but the water nation all by himself at the age of 20 years old? OP is talking about 31 year old Tobi/Obito.
......... First of all Mu is faster than Onoki second Obito never strolled all over anyone lol
 

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......... First of all Mu is faster than Onoki second Obito never strolled all over anyone lol
Do you have speed feats to back this up? Obito's reflexes are pretty fast he's only matched by FTG and even then he was multi tasking(controlling the ninetails via gen and keeping the summoning active), while fighting a Minato who had his full attention on Obito.

There's no way I see Obito losing to Muu. Both he(Jinton user) and Ohnoki(possible Jinton user) were fodderised by Madara who was playing, and he didn't whip out anything past lower grades of Susanoo. Possibly a few katon on top of that, I should think.
 
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......... First of all Mu is faster than Onoki second Obito never strolled all over anyone lol
You’re going to argue speed over a space time user? What good is that going to do for you and does it really matter? Their flight speed is the same and kcm naruto blitzed Mu so you need to relax.
And second, yes, Obito did strolled over the kages and their meeting. He warped through Ohnoki’s particle style and phased through 4th Raikage’s top speed blitz punch.

Do you remember that happening at all?
 

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Do you have speed feats to back this up? Obito's reflexes are pretty fast he's only matched by FTG and even then he was multi tasking(controlling the ninetails via gen and keeping the summoning active), while fighting a Minato who had his full attention on Obito.

There's no way I see Obito losing to Muu. Both he(Jinton user) and Ohnoki(possible Jinton user) were fodderised by Madara who was playing, and he didn't whip out anything past lower grades of Susanoo. Possibly a few katon on top of that, I should think.
I asked why Obito would be able to walk on over to Mu which isn't happening.....and sharingan can't see through clones so when Obito goes to teleport the clone he gets hit from an invisible Mu......

You’re going to argue speed over a space time user? What good is that going to do for you and does it really matter? Their flight speed is the same and kcm naruto blitzed Mu so you need to relax.
And second, yes, Obito did strolled over the kages and their meeting. He warped through Ohnoki’s particle style and phased through 4th Raikage’s top speed blitz punch.

Do you remember that happening at all?
He warped INTO particle style and then was intangible after saving Sasuke lol its different from reacting to something while he was already trying to port someone, we've already seen him be struck by attacks when this was the case.
 

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I asked why Obito would be able to walk on over to Mu which isn't happening.....and sharingan can't see through clones so when Obito goes to teleport the clone he gets hit from an invisible Mu......
Well that's debatable Madara's sharingan can see through clones, Kakashi used Obito's sharingan to see through Itachi's exploding clone. Anyway didn't Obito use a two tomoe sharingan to see through a rock ninja's invisibility jutsu?
 

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Well that's debatable Madara's sharingan can see through clones, Kakashi used Obito's sharingan to see through Itachi's exploding clone. Anyway didn't Obito use a two tomoe sharingan to see through a rock ninja's invisibility jutsu?
He saw through the exploding clone because its chakra got disturbed when it was exploding, Madara never saw through clones he just didn't care.

That may be true I don't remember if so its a good point.
 

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He saw through the exploding clone because its chakra got disturbed when it was exploding, Madara never saw through clones he just didn't care.

That may be true I don't remember if so its a good point.
You need to re-read the manga, explosion and "disturbance" happened after Kakashi saw it. As for Madara he saw through clones on a few occasions and confirmed he could see through them, via statement.

Yes it happened, Obito saw through the invisibility jutsu, with 2 tomoe in Gaiden. It's only around 6 chapters, I think it starts at 238-239 or something. You should read over it to refresh your memory.
 
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