What are the top 5 taijutsu fighters in k12

InfiniteMugen · Nov 16, 2018

Sagebee said:
Well if were talking without his sharingan yes he does

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Just checked the databook choji pretty much beats sakura in everything but speed and that's one and that's probably his base mode.

And what fights are you talking about that shows sakura has good taijursu.

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Just checked the databook choji pretty much beats sakura in everything but speed and that's one and that's probably his base mode.

And what fights are you talking about that shows sakura has good taijursu.

What did she move out of the way of just see her punching like her usual self

What databook did you check? Choji is at 20.5 total , and sakura is at 26, everything but speed huh? So she has 4.5 more points in just speed alone? Check your shit if your gonna respond.

If they both have a 3 in taijutsu, and sakura has pretty much double the intelligence and speed rating choji does, where does that leave us?

Sagebee · Nov 17, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
What databook did you check? Choji is at 20.5 total , and sakura is at 26, everything but speed huh? So she has 4.5 more points in just speed alone? Check your shit if your gonna respond.

If they both have a 3 in taijutsu, and sakura has pretty much double the intelligence and speed rating choji does, where does that leave us?

Dude i did he beats her strength stamina i already awknowkedged speed but that might be base.

salamander uchiha · Nov 17, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
What databook did you check? Choji is at 20.5 total , and sakura is at 26, everything but speed huh? So she has 4.5 more points in just speed alone? Check your shit if your gonna respond.

If they both have a 3 in taijutsu, and sakura has pretty much double the intelligence and speed rating choji does, where does that leave us?

Poor SageBee, And that doesn't include CES. If we go by the new databook her CQC is 5 stars the same as her Medical Ninjutsu. None of this bodes well for Choji

Sagebee · Nov 17, 2018

Ehhh blind fanboying is annouying here are the stats

Choji

Taijutsu 3

Strength 4.5
Speed 2
Stamina 3.5

Sakura

Taijutsu 3
Strength 4
Speed 3
Stamina 3

The speed for choji is most likely base and on average his physical stats are better

InfiniteMugen · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
Ehhh blind fanboying is annouying here are the stats

Choji

Taijutsu 3

Strength 4.5
Speed 2
Stamina 3.5

Sakura

Taijutsu 3
Strength 4
Speed 3
Stamina 3

The speed for choji is most likely base and on average his physical stats are better

Indeed blind fanboying IS annoying, and is exactly what your doing, as id like to see a panel or scene showing choji is as capable in a taijutsu only situation as sakura, considering that’s 90% of her fighting style

I’m not even trying to be a dick, I just legit don’t recall seeing or Reading anything that shows choji capable of exchanging blows like when she did with shin, or the kind of moves she pulled off post chiyo, all I’ve ever seen dude do is grapple, partial expansion, and the human boulder deal

Sagebee · Nov 18, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
Indeed blind fanboying IS annoying, and is exactly what your doing, as id like to see a panel or scene showing choji is as capable in a taijutsu only situation as sakura, considering that’s 90% of her fighting style

Lol bro your arguement was databooks and i showed his stats are better.

The only fight scenes posted here of sakura are facing fodders fighting competently. So what does it count that chouji squared up with the gedo statue its pretty much like facing susanoo.

If we are talking pure destructive power sakura gets demolished if we are talking regular fight sakura could win but not by much. Where in that am i saying something unreasonable or fanboying?

InfiniteMugen · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
Lol bro your arguement was databooks and i showed his stats are better.

The only fight scenes posted here of sakura are facing fodders fighting competently. So what does it count that chouji squared up with the gedo statue its pretty much like facing susanoo.

If we are talking pure destructive power sakura gets demolished if we are talking regular fight sakura could win but not by much. Where in that am i saying something unreasonable or fanboying?

Because it’s a fucking taijutsu match dude, I’m done with you, I ain’t taking part of any more of your bullshit bias threads, nb is over dude, let some of that toxic mentality die with it

Sagebee · Nov 18, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
Because it’s a fucking taijutsu match dude, I’m done with you, I ain’t taking part of any more of your bullshit bias threads, nb is over dude, let some of that toxic mentality die with it

Ehh okay dismiss or dont reply to what i said.

If your going to paint me as unreasonable or biased atleast explain why.

InfiniteMugen · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
Ehh okay dismiss or dont reply to what i said.

If your going to paint me as unreasonable or biased atleast explain why.

What’s there to discuss? The db is apparently subjective,, as I’d take speed and intelligence over power any day in a fight.

People have been giving you examples and the best you can retort with for a taijutsu match is he grapples with the Gedo... cool man. Outside of the Gedo and Getting stomped by hidan and Kakuzu, who has he done so well
Against since all of Sakuras feats are only fodders? When have we even seen him Engage in any quick cqc that you would Even put him on this list? Your logic seems to
Be

Big.power.win

Sagebee · Nov 18, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
What’s there to discuss? The db is apparently subjective,, as I’d take speed and intelligence over power any day in a fight.

People have been giving you examples and the best you can retort with for a taijutsu match is he grapples with the Gedo... cool man. Outside of the Gedo and Getting stomped by hidan and Kakuzu, who has he done so well
Against since all of Sakuras feats are only fodders? When have we even seen him Engage in any quick cqc that you would Even put him on this list? Your logic seems to
Be

Big.power.win

I guess the db is subjective since your claiming what matters and what doesnt.

Also have you blown past the many times I've stated on here she has a good chance of winning if he doesnt go giant. In a regular match i see it going either way your saying it would be a easy match for her since faster and smarter. Again that speed stat is likely base and i dont really know any strategy feats for her.

And is the gedo feat something to dismiss?

Again sakuras saving grace is her healing because she sucks at fighting and its documented.

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InfiniteMugen said:
What’s there to discuss? The db is apparently subjective,, as I’d take speed and intelligence over power any day in a fight.

People have been giving you examples and the best you can retort with for a taijutsu match is he grapples with the Gedo... cool man. Outside of the Gedo and Getting stomped by hidan and Kakuzu, who has he done so well
Against since all of Sakuras feats are only fodders? When have we even seen him Engage in any quick cqc that you would Even put him on this list? Your logic seems to
Be

Big.power.win

Did you delete your reply i got a notification from a reply from you?

InfiniteMugen · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
I guess the db is subjective since your claiming what matters and what doesnt.

Also have you blown past the many times I've stated on here she has a good chance of winning if he doesnt go giant. In a regular match i see it going either way your saying it would be a easy match for her since faster and smarter. Again that speed stat is likely base and i dont really know any strategy feats for her.

And is the gedo feat something to dismiss?

Again sakuras saving grace is her healing because she sucks at fighting and its documented.

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Did you delete your reply i got a notification from a reply from you?

Not that I know of.

The Gedo feat, is a full body expansion, something I wouldn’t consider allowed in a taijutsu match up. Any speed feats he’s shown to prove any kind of cqc profiency is in butterfly mode, also something I wouldn’t consider allowed in a taijutsu match. Any of sakuras feats discussed so far iirc, are strictly taijutsu. It’s an easy match up to decide, as choji is at a severe disadvantage compared to sakura, who doesn’t do much more offensively than taijutsu.

His power would be a much bigger deciding factor for him if hers wasn’t so close

To Whatever · Nov 18, 2018

Naruto Gai and Sasuke.

RSM clones are OP

Sagebee · Nov 18, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
Not that I know of.

The Gedo feat, is a full body expansion, something I wouldn’t consider allowed in a taijutsu match up. Any speed feats he’s shown to prove any kind of cqc profiency is in butterfly mode, also something I wouldn’t consider allowed in a taijutsu match. Any of sakuras feats discussed so far iirc, are strictly taijutsu. It’s an easy match up to decide, as choji is at a severe disadvantage compared to sakura, who doesn’t do much more offensively than taijutsu.

His power would be a much bigger deciding factor for him if hers wasn’t so close

Even with the conditions you made with no going big and butterfly mode your saying sakura would decisively win?

And going giant and butterfly mode are taijutsu feats. Taijutsu is any physical feat.

InfiniteMugen · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
Even with the conditions you made with no going big and butterfly mode your saying sakura would decisively win?

And going giant and butterfly mode are taijutsu feats. Taijutsu is any physical feat.

Usually taijutsu match ups are non jutsu using. I would accept partial expansion, but that’s pretty much it. Not decisively, more like 8 out of 10.

Every time we see sakura fight, it’s in this context. A cqc fight with very lil jutsu usages. every time we see choji fight, it’s usually a conjunction attack, and even then, his cqc movements are all heavy and slower than most of the other characters. I think a cqc/taijutsu match up against any of the k11 is bad news for choji, bar the ones I mentioned earlier for obvious reasons. I even think shika could take choji, only cause he knows the dude. Choji isn’t a thinker, this is a big hinderabce when your fighting on your own, not so much when your the brawn of a 3 person team

Sagebee · Nov 18, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
Usually taijutsu match ups are non jutsu using. I would accept partial expansion, but that’s pretty much it. Not decisively, more like 8 out of 10.

Every time we see sakura fight, it’s in this context. A cqc fight with very lil jutsu usages. every time we see choji fight, it’s usually a conjunction attack, and even then, his cqc movements are all heavy and slower than most of the other characters. I think a cqc/taijutsu match up against any of the k11 is bad news for choji, bar the ones I mentioned earlier for obvious reasons. I even think shika could take choji, only cause he knows the dude. Choji isn’t a thinker, this is a big hinderabce when your fighting on your own, not so much when your the brawn of a 3 person team

Firsr point the whole point of cho is to physically cover for the other two.

Secondly if we take the conditions you gavd then yes sakura would win. But lets factor in full expansion and butterfly mode.

InfiniteMugen · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
:vincent:

Firsr point the whole point of cho is to physically cover for the other two.

Secondly if we take the conditions you gavd then yes sakura would win. But lets factor in full expansion and butterfly mode.

It depends, if we put in those, and byakugo, it’s pretty much an endurance fest no? Without byakugo it’s a wash in chojis favor in butterfly mode.

I always saw the rest of the k11 power scaled lower than team 7 bar neji, and ironically he’s the only one that got killed off

Sagebee · Nov 18, 2018

InfiniteMugen said:
It depends, if we put in those, and byakugo, it’s pretty much an endurance fest no? Without byakugo it’s a wash in chojis favor in butterfly mode.

I always saw the rest of the k11 power scaled lower than team 7 bar neji, and ironically he’s the only one that got killed off

So you pretty much agree with what ive been saying from the beginning then

HowDidIGetPrem · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
So you pretty much agree with what ive been saying from the beginning then

Why are you pitting Butterfly Choji against Sakura without Byakugo in that case? The implication here is that he needs a handicap to win. Byakugo Sakura vs Choji isn't even a battle of endurance because Sakura hits so much harder than Choji could ever hope to that the fight cannot possibly drag on.

Sagebee · Nov 18, 2018

Minamoto Teh First said:
Why are you pitting Butterfly Choji against Sakura without Byakugo in that case? The implication here is that he needs a handicap to win. Byakugo Sakura vs Choji isn't even a battle of endurance because Sakura hits so much harder than Choji could ever hope to that the fight cannot possibly drag on.

Well what about byakghou sakura versus expansion butterfly choji

InfiniteMugen · Nov 18, 2018

Sagebee said:
So you pretty much agree with what ive been saying from the beginning then

It depends, you need to nerf sakura for choji to win, unnerfed to unnerfed sakura simply outlasts at worst

Straight taijutsu she has the speed advantage, as well as battle tactics. I’m not hating on choji, and I dislike sakura, but it is what it is, sakura is a taijutsu specialist at the utmost level. Take away nardo and sauce, and she’s top 3 alive easy in taijutsu as far as we know.

Take away the sneak attack, and she legit went toe to toe with a ms user in cqc hand to hand, which is 99% of what we’re discussin, choji has no such feats

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