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The child is to be born from the devil, the ultimate evil. But that doesn't make that child evil. Why would the devil create life if that is what he fought against? And morality isn't genetic. It a child of Satan was to be born wouldn't it be a half angel and probably a beacon of God's will? The antichrist theory is only valid in primitive times, because if your father was a fisherman then you were bound to be one.

Think about it, If your father was a serial killer are you one too?
But then again Lucifer is probably a crafty being, he would know that him having a child wouldn't mean that he would have a footsoldier to do his bidding. It's perfect actually. His child would be like a second Jesus in all ways, he could've been the second messiah, but humanity will judge and shun the antichrist because of it's father and turn it into the destroyer of the world. This would ultimately prove Lucifer's point to God, Humans suck. And if humanity would shun the antichrist because of their father, what does humanity really think about God? The All-Father.
 
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FemmeFatale said:
The Bible lol.
And I’m saying that’s both are bs, just because you like oranges doesn’t mean you child will
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That's incorrect the anti Christ will be human and the devil is not human. Therefore the anit Christ cannot be his son. He will be on the path of the devil and lead mankind astray hence his association with the devil.

You're example is flawed, liking or disliking oranges is only possible after tasting them. Your fast receptors experience and the mental stimulation you experience.
 
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salamander uchiha said:
That's incorrect the anti Christ will be human and the devil is not human. Therefore the anit Christ cannot be his son. He will be on the path of the devil and lead mankind astray hence his association with the devil.

You're example is flawed, liking or disliking oranges is only possible after tasting them. Your fast receptors experience and the mental stimulation you experience.
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That doesn’t make any sense, that would mean that’s the anti christ is just a title that can be earned. Because the path that opposes God opposes life itself. And we all are the anti christ in that sense, every action we take can ultimately contribute to the end of the world.

Here is another example. You saying that your child will become a lawyer like you doesn’t mean it will happen
 
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That doesn’t make any sense, that would mean that’s the anti christ is just a title that can be earned. Because the path that opposes God opposes life itself. And we all are the anti christ in that sense, every action we take can ultimately contribute to the end of the world.

Here is another example. You saying that your child will become a lawyer like you doesn’t mean it will happen
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Why doesn't it make sense? There's not one anti Christ there were, are and will be many false prophets(Prophets were humans btw so they'll also be human) and then there's the Anti Christ(the final one, the pinnacle of all evil). They(false prophets) will show people miracles(magic or power from Satan if you like) to sow corruption in the land. We can have anti Christ leanings or propagate their message by spreading corruption. However, we don't have false miracles to be true Anti Christs in the literal sense.

In summary they'll all be human but have false miracles accompanying them. They'll call away from the path of oneness of God to their own divinity. Then using that lead the masses to idolatry(most Christians practice) as do many other nations.

Again being a lawyer is not an innate nature, however if you're growing up around lawyers you're more likely to become one than not. That is true for all in society and is summed up in a quote by William Durrant attributed by many to Aristotle.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then is not an act, but a habit."

To tell you the truth I don't know who said it but it's true in meaning.
 
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salamander uchiha said:
Why doesn't it make sense? There's not one anti Christ there were, are and will be many false prophets(Prophets were humans btw so they'll also be human) and then there's the Anti Christ(the final one, the pinnacle of all evil). They(false prophets) will show people miracles(magic or power from Satan if you like) to sow corruption in the land. We can have anti Christ leanings or propagate their message by spreading corruption. However, we don't have false miracles to be true Anti Christs in the literal sense.

In summary they'll all be human but have false miracles accompanying them. They'll call away from the path of oneness of God to their own divinity. Then using that lead the masses to idolatry(most Christians practice) as do many other nations.

Again being a lawyer is not an innate nature, however if you're growing up around lawyers you're more likely to become one than not. That is true for all in society and is summed up in a quote by William Durrant attributed by many to Aristotle.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then is not an act, but a habit."

To tell you the truth I don't know who said it but it's true in meaning.
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Lol, Im going finish this conversation after I smoke again, I need to get back to that level of thinking.
 
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Go. Read. The Bible.

1. The prophecies about Revelation are "sealed" until the end. That is, we won't undestand it before the right time.
As the angel said to Daniel about these same prophecies you quoted

"Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end." Daniel 12:9

2. READ THE SCRIPTURE: "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." 1 John 2:18

It's IN PLURAL.
 
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI said:
Go. Read. The Bible.

1. The prophecies about Revelation are "sealed" until the end. That is, we won't undestand it before the right time.
As the angel said to Daniel about these same prophecies you quoted

"Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end." Daniel 12:9

2. READ THE SCRIPTURE: "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." 1 John 2:18

It's IN PLURAL.
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I don’t read the Bible , and I said that it was many antichrist. Therefore my. Interpretation of the Bible is correct
 
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I don’t read the Bible , and I said that it was many antichrist. Therefore my. Interpretation of the Bible is correct
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Unfortunately for you my God Jehovah never needed human's interpretations. Either you got it right or wrong.
And how pathetic. You never read the Bible and is already assuming you are right.
 
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What if the one that believers were believing in the true "Evil"? I find it hard to believe that a "God" would want to send those who lost faith in it to burn for eternity.
 
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What if the one that believers were believing in the true "Evil"? I find it hard to believe that a "God" would want to send those who lost faith in it to burn for eternity.
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You are completly right.
There is not one versicle in Bible defending that people would burn for eternity.
It rather says "LIKE a lake of fire"
That is, people that raped, hated and that won't accept God in the 1000 years that willl exist to show Jehova's word (like indigenous people of the 1200's) will be destroyed. They will simply cease to exist.
 
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI said:
Unfortunately for you the Word of God Jehovah is only one. If someone add something to it. It's written that they will pay.
But anyway you never read it. Go read the book.
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I respect your beliefs, but I also respect science too, I do admire Jehovah witness unyielding faith. But I will ask u to think about this, Free Will. Is it really free will if your giving a book of rules telling you how to act, should’ve God have faith that you will learn it on your own?
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What if the one that believers were believing in the true "Evil"? I find it hard to believe that a "God" would want to send those who lost faith in it to burn for eternity.
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Gods protrayal in the Bible is too human for me, I went to catholic school as a girl and he seemed very childish, very impulsive , and jealous with the facade of a loving god.
To me , I seen it as a metaphor of a man trying to oppress women by giving the ultimate life giving qualities to a male entity, even going as far as to say that our ability to bear children is punishment.
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI said:
You are completly right.
There is not one versicle in Bible defending that people would burn for eternity.
It rather says "LIKE a lake of fire"
That is, people that raped, hated and that won't accept God in the 1000 years that willl exist to show Jehova's word (like indigenous people of the 1200's) will be destroyed. They will simply cease to exist.
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Surely you see the flaw in this.
This being made us “above” the rest, able to question , with free will and the ability to think for ourselves. Knowing this and knowing of the deception of humanity , you really think God or Jehova would punish those for think for themselves? Honestly I feel that god would congratulate them, you are the ones who didn’t blindly follow the masses, you choose the path of live, to truely live free.

Religion is flawed,you aren’t a good person because your a good person, but because u fear what comes after. How is that genuine. Most people don’t want to just do good, they all have selfish motives . And I believe that if one is to be judged by a supreme being, he would see through the bull
 
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I respect your beliefs, but I also respect science too, I do admire Jehovah witness unyielding faith. But I will ask u to think about this, Free Will. Is it really free will if your giving a book of rules telling you how to act, should’ve God have faith that you will learn it on your own?
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Gods protrayal in the Bible is too human for me, I went to catholic school as a girl and he seemed very childish, very impulsive , and jealous with the facade of a loving god.
To me , I seen it as a metaphor of a man trying to oppress women by giving the ultimate life giving qualities to a male entity, even going as far as to say that our ability to bear children is punishment.
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Surely you see the flaw in this.
This being made us “above” the rest, able to question , with free will and the ability to think for ourselves. Knowing this and knowing of the deception of humanity , you really think God or Jehova would punish those for think for themselves? Honestly I feel that god would congratulate them, you are the ones who didn’t blindly follow the masses, you choose the path of live, to truely live free.

Religion is flawed,you aren’t a good person because your a good person, but because u fear what comes after. How is that genuine. Most people don’t want to just do good, they all have selfish motives . And I believe that if one is to be judged by a supreme being, he would see through the bull
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Except I am no Jehovah Witness - my God simply has a name, thanks. Except there is free will. Except God is here to wipe away every tear.

God is in no way a controller. There is punishment for those who tortured kids plucking their eyes, arms out and never got judged by the men.
Death is simply a consequence of walking away from God. Because he doesn't HAVE justice and life. He IS.
That's why he is perfect.
It's just as putting your hand in fire. You get burned but that's no punishment.

And good goodness. God is in no way a male entity. He is given the physical traits of women, mother, eagles, fire. Jews simply addressed him as Father because in that failed society, that would be the greatest title possible. Not that he is male.

Go read the book.
 
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI said:
Except I am no Jehovah Witness - my God simply has a name, thanks. Except there is free will. Except God is here to wipe away every tear.

God is in no way a controller. There is punishment for those who tortured kids plucking their eyes, arms out and never got judged by the men.
Death is simply a consequence of walking away from God. Because he doesn't HAVE justice and life. He IS.
That's why he is perfect.
It's just as putting your hand in fire. You get burned but that's no punishment.

And good goodness. God is in no way a male entity. He is given the physical traits of women, mother, eagles, fire. Jews simply addressed him as Father because in that failed society, that would be the greatest title possible. Not that he is male.

Go read the book.
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That’s pretty arrogant to name a supreme being though. It would be like an ant trying to speak the name of a human. But why intervene on such petty matters, singular issues should mean nothing to god, if god wants to effect things why not do things on a more global scale?
It’s sounds like a fairy tale to me.
Much like the brothers Grimm actually, what book are your referencing?
 
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FemmeFatale said:
That’s pretty arrogant to name a supreme being though. It would be like an ant trying to speak the name of a human. But why intervene on such petty matters, singular issues should mean nothing to god, if god wants to effect things why not do things on a more global scale?
It’s sounds like a fairy tale to me.
Much like the brothers Grimm actually, what book are your referencing?
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No, it's not arrogant. And he wants to intervene because he created us, he is Our Creator. He loves us like a mother and father.

"Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you!" - Isaiah 49:15

And He is Justice. He will not let those who lost their family, hope, joy mourn forever.
Justice is no fairy tale. And if you think so, you are petty and has no empathy for those who suffer.
 
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