Young Kakashi VS Sound 4

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Seeing a similar thread with young Itachi, I thought of this matchup.

Location: Forest
Distance: 100m
Restrictions: Sound 4 doesn't have cursed seals, Kakashi has a Sharingan.
 

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well,even without cure sealthey will win. sound 4 FTW
 

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"Sound 4 doesn't have cursed seals"

o_O not even close at that point kakashi easy
 

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Well, alright then. :p How about a scenartio in which they have Cursed Seals?
 

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Kakashi runs out of chakra faster than the speed of light. OT: Sound Four low difficulty. Gaiden Kakashi is around the same level as chunin exams Sasuke who got owned by the sound four.
 

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Kakashi runs out of chakra faster than the speed of light. OT: Sound Four low difficulty. Gaiden Kakashi is around the same level as chunin exams Sasuke who got owned by the sound four.

Is it a joke? Chunin exams Sasuke was said to be "chunin level", exactly that. He only managed to learn Chidori.
Kakashi at his age was already a jonin, a whole level higher, fought on par against other strong jonins, which proves this wasn't just a honorary title, and once he got a Sharingan, he effortlessly killed one of these jonins. Also, at the age at which Sasuke learned Chidori, Kakashi CREATED Chidori.
 

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Sound4 is overrated. Eventhough he lost, a chunin level Sasuke without Sharingan almost managed to beat them 4 together in taijutsu combat:
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And they were even forced to release CS to handle him. Kakashi who was much more powerful even back then will win i think. If CS is restricted, Kakashi will win. It's true that Sharingan drains his chakra, but even back then he was able to handle a 2tomoe Sharingan and use 2Raikiris the same day(even Sasuke couldn't use more than 2), and kill a skilled jounin level ninja with it
 

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If CS is restricted, Kakashi CAN win, it would be with high difficulty but this is assuming he makes no mistakes.
 

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Sound4 is overrated. Eventhough he lost, a chunin level Sasuke without Sharingan almost managed to beat them 4 together in taijutsu combat:
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And they were even forced to release CS to handle him. Kakashi who was much more powerful even back then will win i think. If CS is restricted, Kakashi will win. It's true that Sharingan drains his chakra, but even back then he was able to handle a 2tomoe Sharingan and use 2Raikiris the same day(even Sasuke couldn't use more than 2), and kill a skilled jounin level ninja with it
Sakon was barely phased by Lion's barrage
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Is it a joke? Chunin exams Sasuke was said to be "chunin level", exactly that. He only managed to learn Chidori.
Kakashi at his age was already a jonin, a whole level higher, fought on par against other strong jonins, which proves this wasn't just a honorary title, and once he got a Sharingan, he effortlessly killed one of these jonins. Also, at the age at which Sasuke learned Chidori, Kakashi CREATED Chidori.
Sasuke had chidori, superior stamina, katon variants and the mastery of weapons while Kakashi only had chidori. Also the standards for jounin in Kakashi's era were much lower than in Sasuke's era. In Sasuke's era, it was very difficult to get promoted to even the chunin level since there were no wars so not many ninjas were required to fight. This in turn caused the countries to spend less on their military which further reduced the number of potential chunin/jounin applicants since the standards were raised to counter the surplus of ninjas.

Let's take a look into what we mean by chunin and jounin. The likes of Iruka and Mizuki were able to reach chunin level since during those days, there was a huge demand for ninjas because of nine tails attack and Uchiha massacre. In Kakashi's era, the Leaf was in short supply of ninjas thanks to the shinobi world war so the likes of Kakashi were readily promoted to jounin.

Now do you understand why Kakashi loses so badly here? It took Neji, Chouji, Kankuro, Temari, Shikamaru and Kiba to kill off the sound four. You think kid Kakashi, let alone part 1 Kakashi can actually win against them?
 
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Kidomaru>>>>Kakashi kidomaru wins low/mid diff.
Sakon/akon>Kakashi high diff
Tayuya<=Kakashi(Genjustu is a big broblem. sharingan kakashi wins but without sharingan kakashi will lose)
Jirobo<<Kakashi kakashi wins mid diff
 

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young kakashi! considering sasuke was able to fight them, kakashi was strong and smart in his young.
so he wins with difficulty
 

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Sasuke had chidori, superior stamina, katon variants and the mastery of weapons while Kakashi only had chidori.

You say that only because young Kakashi was shown in 5 chapters, while Sasuke - for the whole series. Besides, Sasuke having the mastery of weapons? Please! Even in this aspect Kakashi is much better, as he fought with Sakumo's sword for most of the time. Superior stamina is false, as well - Kakashi could use his chidori AT LEAST 2 times back then during a single day. Sasuke could use his Chidori AT MOST 2 times during one day. So no, Kakashi had at least the same chakra reserves as Sasuke, but possibly bigger.

Also the standards for jounin in Kakashi's era were much lower than in Sasuke's era. In Sasuke's era, it was very difficult to get promoted to even the chunin level since there were no wars so not many ninjas were required to fight.

I think I already stated the proof that jonin was not just a title given away to Kakashi? Listen carefuly - before he obtained his Sharingan, he fought on par against adult jonins, which were supposed to be pretty well known in their village - stated in the databook. After he received a Sharingan, he basically 1-hit-KOd one of those jonins.
So no, Kakashi fully deserved this rank, unlike Sasuke.

Let's take a look into what we mean by chunin and jounin. The likes of Iruka and Mizuki were able to reach chunin level since during those days, there was a huge demand for ninjas because of nine tails attack and Uchiha massacre.

Academy teachers had to be definitely above genin level to be able to teach these guys something. Are you saying that Iruka and Mizuki would be genin if their graduation hadn't occured in the past?

In Kakashi's era, the Leaf was in short supply of ninjas thanks to the shinobi world war so the likes of Kakashi were readily promoted to jounin.

Already proved wrong above.

Now do you understand why Kakashi loses so badly here? It took Neji, Chouji, Kankuro, Temari, Shikamaru and Kiba to kill off the sound four. You think kid Kakashi, let alone part 1 Kakashi can actually win against them?

Wait... just a second... I hope I misunderstood? I hope you really didn't just say that Part I Kakashi could have problems with them? If so... then I'm off. :rolleyes: Seriously, Sound 4 were pretty exhausted after facing two normal Konoha jonins with their Cursed Seals. Do you really think young Kakashi, who one-hit-KOd a possibly stronger jonin than any of those two, wouldn't be able to defeat these four guys without their CS? I can understand why you'd say they could defeat Kakashi in CS2 forms, but seriously, without them?
 

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I have double posted by accident. Sorry. :cool:
 
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