Sasuke has the only legitimate reason for turning evil.

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if sasuke is a genius then he should tried to protect konoha.... since sasuke is a stupid so he choose the path of destroying konoha....sasuke reason for turning evil is lame because he should follow itachi's feeling and tried to protect konoha.... sasuke is showing immaturity....... sasuke is doing the same mistake which his clan members done and itachi said to his clan memebers that they should think about village .......

So Sasuke should protect Konoha because Itachi told him to do it........if you think Sasuke's revenge is lame then let's go over things.

1. Sasuke was only 7 years old when he seen his own parents get slaughter in front of his eyes and the worst part was it was is own brother.

2. Train of 3 years with Orochimaru so i can kill the man who took everything away from me.

3. Find out my brother was only protect me this whole time while i was trying to kill him.

4. Find out my own Village used my brother to kill his own parents and back-stab my Clan.

If you think all of this reasons are lame then every Villain on Naruto has lame reasons to become to a Villain in the first place.
 
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like sasuke pein's parents were killed in front of him too
besides that he was also getting manipulated .
 

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peopel are naturally able to be corrupted. its a fact of human nature. since cain killed abel. since the snake corrupted eve. since man first turned on his brother. we are the only race who kill people just because we feel like it or got angry.

you cite simplistic reasons as the motivation. but look deeper than that. anyone who can become corrupted and twisted from a friend dying has to have had deep seated mental issues BEFORE that. i look at obito as insane, not evil. evil is knowing what your doing is wrong and simply not caring. deidara fits this to a T. evil is enjoying people suffering and almost getting off on it. hidan and orochimaru.
obitos often chosen the most painless way of killing people who get in his way. hes never outright just broke out in evil laughter or maniacally tortured people. hes actually sort of an anti villain in that all he wants is world peace. the villain the world needed but didnt deserve. in one speech at kage summit he united the entire world.

I think all of you should apologies to Sasuke he is the only one with a legitimate reason for turing against konoha
because a few old men told his bro to kill everyone? thats still not a legit reason. there IS no legit reason to suddenly flip shit and try to murder babies. unless you are doing it because your hungry and want to eat the baby for survival.

if sasuke is a genius then he should tried to protect konoha
intelligence has nothing to do with choosing to be the same old manipulated puppet and follow the predictable path. sasukes insane from his experiences but hes not brain damaged
 

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I cant seem to understand why Tobi needs to take his anger out on the whole world. Why not deal with Kakashi personally? Rin must have died in an extremely cruel way.
 

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Itatchi was never evil, he played the part of being evil but never truly was
depends on what you mean by evil but itachi was certainly cruel, apathetic and thought of peoples lives as chess pieces. sacrifices to gain a greater goal. he admits that during his life he was corrupted and selfish and only after dying did he look back and see his life was full of mistakes. if he was always good and noble he has no reason to call himself a failure.

sasuke reason for turning evil is lame because he should follow itachi's feeling and tried to protect konoha.... sasuke is showing immaturity....... sasuke is doing the same mistake which his clan members done and itachi said to his clan memebers that they should think about village
thats exactly why itachi was immature. he tried to manipulate and force sasuke to follow his path because apparently itachi is always right and sauske should follow his will and have no say in the matter. sasuke stated "even if you forgive konoha, i dont". itachi was ok with working with genocidal corrupt beurocrats, and senjus who oppressed uchihas and segregated them. sasuke isnt. sasuke is not itachi. he has his own reasons and beliefs about the ninja world. he said once that to understand sasuke, youd have to have your family murdered. only then could you get why he is the way he is.
its not exactly sasukes fault that tobi got to him and twisted the truth.

this is sauske's problem.

He raging at the wrong people.

he should be looking at tobi and madara as they were the ones that framed the clan and killed off the members.
who said he isnt? by killing zetsu he declared war on tobi. he always intended to kill tobi when he had the chance since after itachi, the accomplice was his next target. all of konoha is sasukes target because they were senju supporters and are ignorantly wallowing in peace, sacrificing itachi for said peace. sasuke cannot understand why itachi is going so far for these people and now he wants to find out. only after destroying konoha can uchihas be purified and rebuilt. thats sasukes reason. kill those who oppressed his clan so that they can never do so again when he rebuilds it.
 

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I cant seem to understand why Tobi needs to take his anger out on the whole world. Why not deal with Kakashi personally? Rin must have died in an extremely cruel way.

We will find out soon, btw your tobi sig is epic!
 

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All those guys are still cooler than Sasuke..
 

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Please say this thread is a ****ing joke.

You think it was just Yahiko's death that threw Nagato over the edge? Do you have any idea how actual emotions and genuine hate builds up!? Nagato has the most realistic and amazing backstory to explain his current character. He was born in a WAR, everything he ever loved or cherished (his mum, his home, his dad, his dog, his friend) died or was taken from him by war and evil warlords. Somewhere in Nagato's head he summarised that war had to be stopped and went about it.

Madara Uchiha had just as much right to the Hokage throne as Hashirama did, his own village that HE HIMSELF FORMED turned against him and even his own clan who he fought his life for hated him. His respect mixed in with his hate for Hashirama makes complete sense and also hey, he's a Uchiha- of course he's going to blow things out of proportion.

Orochimaru? We have the Severus Snape effect, he was born just a little distorted and just because his interests and ideals are slightly different he is shunned for it even though he is just as deserving as the other candidate was. That and his parents dying, Orochimaru was likely just born warped with that murderous touch.

I'm not saying Sasuke didn't have his reasons for turning into a bit of a nutjob- especially around the company of psychopaths such as Orochimaru, Naruto and Obito but do not think he is the only one who has a genuine reason for turning evil. Next you're going to tell me Gaara had no good reason for hating his village and wanting to kill people either.
 
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STFU!!! itachi is genius and itachi died and kill uchihas only to save konoha and sasuke is a stupid who want to destroy konoha....u should use your mind before making such threads..

aww someone needs a nap :)
 

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Sasuke had a good reason to kill itachi and danzo, but his hate towards konoha is kinda not legitimate, and shows his unplaced hate bitchiness
 

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Please say this thread is a ****ing joke.

You think it was just Yahiko's death that threw Nagato over the edge? Do you have any idea how actual emotions and genuine hate builds up!? Nagato has the most realistic and amazing backstory to explain his current character. He was born in a WAR, everything he ever loved or cherished (his mum, his home, his dad, his dog, his friend) died or was taken from him by war and evil warlords. Somewhere in Nagato's head he summarised that war had to be stopped and went about it.

Madara Uchiha had just as much right to the Hokage throne as Hashirama did, his own village that HE HIMSELF FORMED turned against him and even his own clan who he fought his life for hated him. His respect mixed in with his hate for Hashirama makes complete sense and also hey, he's a Uchiha- of course he's going to blow things out of proportion.

Orochimaru? We have the Severus Snape effect, he was born just a little distorted and just because his interests and ideals are slightly different he is shunned for it even though he is just as deserving as the other candidate was. That and his parents dying, Orochimaru was likely just born warped with that murderous touch.

I'm not saying Sasuke didn't have his reasons for turning into a bit of a nutjob- especially around the company of psychopaths such as Orochimaru, Naruto and Obito but do not think he is the only one who has a genuine reason for turning evil. Next you're going to tell me Gaara had no good reason for hating his village and wanting to kill people either.

Uchiha Madara's reasons are still not that deep for me, Hashirama formed the village with him not just Madara also he wanted to go against the senju's but his clan didn't, they didn't hate him they just didn't want to fight any more. He took things out of proportion saying his clan "betrayed" him but I guess it's the Uchiha curse of hatred thing.

Orochimaru really didn't have that great of a reason to turn evil, he was sadden by all the death in this world people dying and not reaching their full potential and because you don't want to turn out like that you start experimenting on people and things to gain immortally and unlock your full potential? That's not that great of a reason to turn evil. His hate towards konoha because he was turned down for hokage, well he was killing people :shrug: what type of hokage is that basically the same as Danzo.

Imo I think sasuke had the most legitimate reasons out of all the villains today, I did the thread in a troll way but the I meant what I was trying to portray and that is sasuke has the most legitimate reason to turn evil
 

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NO, Sasuke has no right to kill everyone in Konoha.
 

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Imo I think sasuke had the most legitimate reasons out of all the villains today, I did the thread in a troll way but the I meant what I was trying to portray and that is sasuke has the most legitimate reason to turn evil

Fair enough, thanks for coming back with a genuinely interesting argument. I don't blame Sasuke really, he's just been played his entire life and led to this. Of course he was going to turn into a psycho, it's a miracle he hadn't already.

Nagato and Gaara take it for me though.

The best way someone has dealt with their problems though? Rock Lee. Maybe Naruto.
 

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When Sasuke's clan died, wasn't every there for him? He was the most popular and well liked kid in Konoha. He had support from everyone. So why did Sasuke decide to be a jerk and leave? He could've killed Itachi and Orochimaru for revenge but he didn't have to turn evil and go after Konoha. He had friends it was him that dedcided to throw all of it away for no reason. Naruto would've done anything to be in Sasuke's position(at that time) to have friends, be popular and stuff. Naruto didn't have anyone for comfort right off the back when he was young, Sasuke did. But that's my opinion.

But tbh everyone has a legit reason for how they turned out. I just think Sasuke's is a tad bit lesser than the rest(you can't say Obito yet because there's still needs to be some explaining).
 

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NO, Sasuke has no right to kill everyone in Konoha.
Yes but imo he has the most legitimate reason to out of the rest of the villains

Fair enough, thanks for coming back with a genuinely interesting argument. I don't blame Sasuke really, he's just been played his entire life and led to this. Of course he was going to turn into a psycho, it's a miracle he hadn't already.

Nagato and Gaara take it for me though.

The best way someone has dealt with their problems though? Rock Lee. Maybe Naruto.

Yep I agree Nagato and Gaara did have legitimate reasons. Rock lee's pain wasn't that bad I love his resolve though if he's not good at ninjutsu and genjutsu then he will excel in taijutsu xd love that

Also Naruto has resolved his problems but life went from very bad to better (obviously more pain came later on in shippuden)for Naruto. Sasuke had the reverse which I think is was good life to bad to terrible.

When Sasuke's clan died, wasn't every there for him? He was the most popular and well liked kid in Konoha. He had support from everyone. So why did Sasuke decide to be a jerk and leave? He could've killed Itachi and Orochimaru for revenge but he didn't have to turn evil and go after Konoha. He had friends it was him that dedcided to throw all of it away for no reason. Naruto would've done anything to be in Sasuke's position(at that time) to have friends, be popular and stuff. Naruto didn't have anyone for comfort right off the back when he was young, Sasuke did. But that's my opinion.

But tbh everyone has a legit reason for how they turned out. I just think Sasuke's is a tad bit lesser than the rest(you can't say Obito yet because there's still needs to be some explaining).

He loved his family and clan more they were the people he was closet to, to have them all wiped from existence is very painful.

No you see this is were it get's f*cked up he killed itachi and he would of been happy but Tobi came and told him the truth about itachi and how he was ordered to kill the uchiha by leaf officials and let him take all the blame and become a missing nin. That's why he went after the higher up's and it was the higher up's only he was going for but later all this hatred was getting to much for sasuke and he became corrupt.

You think sasuke had the least legitimate reason? That surprises me most people would agree Nagato and Sasuke have the most legitimate
 

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When Sasuke's clan died, wasn't every there for him? He was the most popular and well liked kid in Konoha. He had support from everyone. So why did Sasuke decide to be a jerk and leave? He could've killed Itachi and Orochimaru for revenge but he didn't have to turn evil and go after Konoha. He had friends it was him that dedcided to throw all of it away for no reason. Naruto would've done anything to be in Sasuke's position(at that time) to have friends, be popular and stuff. Naruto didn't have anyone for comfort right off the back when he was young, Sasuke did. But that's my opinion.

But tbh everyone has a legit reason for how they turned out. I just think Sasuke's is a tad bit lesser than the rest(you can't say Obito yet because there's still needs to be some explaining).

Sasuke was alone too. He never had support or friends, people only admired his ability (since he was strong and had a big potentional) but they didn't give him love and comfort. I think that Naruto was actually his only friend.

To me, Sasuke's actions are somehow understandable ,except for wanting to kill everyone. If I was him I'd only go after Danzo, elders, Madara and Tobi. He had a family, people who he loved and it was all taken away from him by his own big brother in one night and his mind was tortured to insanity. It would actually be strange if he was normal. I think that he is the only one who actually can be justified. But even with all that I believe that he's a good person blinded by ahtered and that in the end he will find the right path again...
 

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STFU!!! itachi is genius and itachi died and kill uchihas only to save konoha and sasuke is a stupid who want to destroy konoha....u should use your mind before making such threads..

What is this... I don't even...:sy:
Anyway, on to the topic...

It gets annoying when people make Nagato's past out to be "oh he went emo because his dog died," or are really picky in one event( I'm not talking about OP necessarily, just people who undermine Nagato's past in general). I think people need to see Nagato metaphorically as an innocent puppy that got beaten continuously. It wasn't just one thing that did it.... It was a gradual process as his pain accumulated. And that's what made him realistic.

With Madara and Oro, I feel like they already were predisposed to going bad as people. Madara had aggressive and radical character traits to begin with, so we can assume he wouldn't just give in because no one else wanted to be as dramatic. With Oro, well, look at him... Did he ever look like a good character to begin with? He already thought wayyy differently than his peers...

With Sasuke though, I'm in no way disagreeing with you. Heck, if I put myself in Sasuke's POV I'd probably be filled with hate too... And to top it off, realize the whole situation was all a big lie? However, I still don't think it justifies him going apesh*t and killing an entire village, considering what his brother sacrificed to try to originally save it.

The only motive that feels like an asspull, when put plainly, was Tobito's(granted he was even sane to begin with after being crushed by rocks :sy:)...so, in a sense, that DID accomplish making Sasuke's 'just kill everyone' plan look absolutely legit.
 
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I think Obito had a good reason to turn evil, I mean imagine what would have happened to Naruto if Sakura had died back in Part 1 of the Manga/Anime. He would have been devastated, filled with despair and rage, not even to mention the fact that Obito was essentially cut off from and never even saw his friends for years. Lets not forget that Obito grew up during a war, he would have seen a lot of people die that he cared for and I think Rin was just the last straw.

Besides, Obito doesn't want to kill everyone or anything dumb like that, I think he simply wants to use the moon's eye plan to put the world in an eternal genjutsu so that no one can ever fight or start a war ever again, he wants to make sure no one ever has to go through the pain he went through when Rin died anymore. In a lot of ways this is similar to what Nagato was trying to do, but just like Nagato Obito is doing it wrong, trying to stop war by controlling everyone. So I think his reasons are valid for what he is trying to accomplish.
 
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