Clearing the confusion: Tobi's real identity (must read)

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This weeks chapter made a BIG confusion to most of the readers. Tobi=Obito fans are shouting with joy while the opposite are mad and some made comments that they would stop reading Naruto because Kishi is screwing things up. With only one chapter and all hopes are gone. Is it really true that Kishi is destroying the timeline of the story? Let's take a look at it............

I would say that both sides are correct! Tobi=Obito fans and the opposite side are both correct. How come? Okay, if we have read the manga thoroughly then we can say that both are correct because.......

1. Tobi=Obito in terms of physical aspect! He is Obito physically. This is what our eyes can see, right? But, is he really Obito in general? I mean his consciousness, chakra, etc...

2. Tobi is not Obito in general. The timeline of the story proves that Tobi is not Obito.

Who is Tobi exactly?

I would say that he is both Obito and Madara. He has the body of Obito and with the consciousness and chakra of Madara. Here are the proof showing that Tobi is really Madara.


Scan 1: It was really hinted that Tobi is Madara

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Scan 2: Tobi does not use the MS in the presence of other akatsuki members. Concealign his true identity

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Scan 3: Madara's unknown intention why he infiltrated Akatsuki

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Scan 4: Standing on his own statue

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All scans above are from the databook so no excuses here that he is not Madara.


Supported by manga scans:

Itachi revealed that Tobi is Madara

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Kisame calling Tobi Madara:

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Minato thinking that Tobi could be Madara:

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Take note that two guys mentioned above are considered geniuses.


It was proven by Minato and Oro that chakra and consciousness can be sealed.

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Tobi is Madara within Obito's body. He might have sealed his chakra and consciousness to a zetsu clone before he died so he can continue with his plan. This is supported when Tobi said that he gave Nagato the rinnegan and Madara talking about Nagato.

It's most likely that he waited for an opportunity to get a hold of an Uchiha body that time where he can transfer his consciousness and chakra again. We all know that a non Uchiha can't use sharingan the way an Uchiha does. A non uchiha can't activate the sharingan long enough.

Supported with evidence from the databook and manga, only one reason that can explain the confusion with the recent chapter about Tobi being Obito. Tobi is Madara using Obito's body. This reason won't break the timeline of the story.

To all those who got mad with the recent chapter, stay calm and focus so all of you can think well and have some :ice:

Thanks for reading!:D
 
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it is possible that he has some Madara chakra (being zetsu which is madara-hashi) but he dont have his mind. i just wrote about it. he is a different person with different ambitions.
 

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it is possible that he has some Madara chakra (being zetsu which is madara-hashi) but he dont have his mind. i just wrote about it. he is a different person with different ambitions.

LOL I think you mean bald
 

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it is possible that he has some Madara chakra (being zetsu which is madara-hashi) but he dont have his mind. i just wrote about it. he is a different person with different ambitions.

it's possible that he could be a different person but DB says otherwise..:)
 

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This weeks chapter made a BIG confusion to most of the readers. Tobi=Obito fans are shouting with joy while the opposite are mad and some made comments that they would stop reading Naruto because Kishi is screwing things up. With only one chapter and all hopes are gone. Is it really true that Kishi is destroying the timeline of the story? Let's take a look at it............

I would say that both sides are correct! Tobi=Obito fans and the opposite side are both correct. How come? Okay, if we have read the manga thoroughly then we can say that both are correct because.......

1. Tobi=Obito in terms of physical aspect! He is Obito physically. This is what our eyes can see, right? But, is he really Obito in general? I mean his consciousness, chakra, etc...

2. Tobi is not Obito in general. The timeline of the story proves that Tobi is not Obito.

Who is Tobi exactly?

I would say that he is both Obito and Madara. He has the body of Obito and with the consciousness and chakra of Madara. Here are the proof showing that Tobi is really Madara.


Scan 1: It was really hinted that Tobi is Madara

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Scan 2: Tobi does not use the MS in the presence of other akatsuki members. Concealign his true identity

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Scan 3: Madara's unknown intention why he infiltrated Akatsuki

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Scan 4: Standing on his own statue

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All scans above are from the databook so no excuses here that he is not Madara.


Supported by manga scans:

Itachi revealed that Tobi is Madara

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Kisame calling Tobi Madara:

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Minato thinking that Tobi could be Madara:

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It was proven that chakra and consciousness can be sealed. This was proven by Minato and Oro

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Conclusion: Tobi is Madara within Obito's body. He might have sealed his chakra and consciousness to a zetsu clone before he died so he can continue with his plan. This is supported when Tobi said that he gave Nagato the rinnegan and Madara talking about Nagato.

It's most likely that he waited for an opportunity to get a hold of an Uchiha body that time where he can transfer his consciousness and chakra again. We all know that a non Uchiha can't use sharingan the way an Uchiha does. A non uchiha can't activate the sharingan long enough.

Supported with evidence from the databook and manga, only one reason that can explain the confusion with the recent chapter about Tobi being Obito. Tobi is Madara using Obito's body. This reason won't break the timeline of the story.

To all those who got mad with the recent chapter, stay calm and focus so you can think well and have some :ice:

Thanks for reading!:D

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verygood theory :ice:
 

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I actually believe that it's not Obito's consciousness and that it's just his body being used , so I somewhat agree with what you stated ..but those pages from the data book is sort of out-dated , so I'm not sure if it's that reliable .

They're all just assumptions and theories , it's up to Kishi in the end ..

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it is possible that he has some Madara chakra (being zetsu which is madara-hashi) but he dont have his mind. i just wrote about it. he is a different person with different ambitions.

i love when trolls fail at trolling
 

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verygood theory :ice:

thanks bro..:)

I actually believe that it's not Obito's consciousness and that it's just his body being used , so I somewhat agree with what you stated ..but those pages from the data book is sort of out-dated , so I'm not sure if it's that reliable .

They're all just assumptions and theories , it's up to Kishi in the end ..

+Rep for effort .

Thanks..those pages are from the databook 3 so it's the latest..:)
 

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Arent those pages from databook 3? because if so then they are outdated as it was still not known that tobi isn't madara.
 
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good theory but why does tobi not understand edo tensei if he is madara? who clearly was aware of the technique and how to counter it
 

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Arent those pages from databook 3? because if so then they are outdated as it was still not known that tobi isn't madara.

It's a character profile that was written by Kishi and it was also supported in the manga that Tobi is Madara.


good theory but why does tobi not understand edo tensei if he is madara? who clearly was aware of the technique and how to counter it

It was not stated in the manga that Madara can use Edo Tensei. Everyone knows how Edo tensei works but it doesn't mean that they know how to use it. Let's take Muu for example. He knows about ET but can he use it? If Madara knows how ET works and he's that good at seals, then there's no question that he can escape it.

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i totally agree and i just had some 4real :ice:
 
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