[Discussion] I got fired today. Long explanation inside. Please help and comment but be nice

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I know this is pretty long but please read it and you may find it interesting and i would really appriciate what you have to say about the situation as a whole thank you.

Hi welcome to my thread, I thought it was worth making. So yeah I got fired today and I wanted to get your opinions on the matter. So I wake up my mum tells me your dad wants to talk to you before you go to work im like ok so I phone him. He says the guys who hired me aka boss dosent want me to come in today. (For arguments sake let’s call the guys john, as I don’t like the term boss). So im thinking to myself what going on and I say to myself don’t over-react you don’t know the situation yet. So I came up with three possibilities 1)he wants to train the new guy up 2) figured out I was ill and told me to take day off 3) wanted me to work another day. Boy was I wrong so dad comes home and I ask him whats up he says john has fired me im like what why?

Before I go any further I think I should explain abit. So ive been looking for work to no avail and im on my gap year which I had to take because I couldn’t find a place to live close enough to my uni 2 hours away was the best and thats ridiculous and at the time I had a few problems such as insomnia of the craziest level. So anyway I wake up one day and my dad tells me he found a job for me that, john needed a new employee (yeesh this is taking longer than I thought) so long story short I got the job through my dad who is a friend of johns. Its a new-agents by the way. Back to the present anyway dad gives me a list of reasons. He says your late quite alot ok I agree with that but is the guy really complaining about a few minutes if im late its only ever a minute or 2 max right. Next up is hes been coming in tired lately and looks sleepy etc etc. Well yeah my sleep problems have increased. So there are those two points and the guys nitpicks about everything, its like its a newsagents not a bloody empire. This is already sounding wrong im not explaining properly.

So this week I got ill and really felt like I could not come into work so on Sunday but I decided might aswell go, usually I use the toilet before I go and I did which made me late I rang up to let him know I would be and thats another thing he specifically stated to dad and he says if your ever going to be late let me know. So while working my shift I really needed the toilet, I understand that I should not have closed the shop up but the fact is what could I do about it shit my pants and continue serving the customers? He found out cause one of the customers went to his brothers shop and said it was closed. So here comes Tuesday and I didn’t know but he knew about it but he is the cowardly kind of guy who dosent say anything to my face and I say cowardly because he says everything to my dad its like hey im working for you not my dad you have my number or could say it to my face. However he wont because he knows how it will make him sound. By the way working Sunday there were alot of ill people coming in which made me even more sick.

So basically its Tuesday I go there he dosent say anything right. I work my shift now barely able to stand why do I do this because this guy literally has no-one to work it and I feel bad about that. So I go in which obviously turned out to be a mistake, then again he seems like the sort of person who would have a problem with me being sick and fire me. My dad said you don’t want to give him reasons to fire you do you I was like guess not so very sick I go in to work I do my shift and the guy has quite alot of stock for me to put out and once again I need the toiled because my bowels are off im not feeling well. So I close up for 15 minutes and when I get back I hear the phone ring were you closed, I say yeah for about 15 minutes I needed the toilet for a good 5 seconds silence. Im like hello, he replies il talk to you later. I keep missing things if you could only see it as it is in my head lol. This guy just sees it as black and white and in that case he would be right but the world is shades of grey not black and white. So essentially I wake up to find im fired just like that and im thinking ok fair enough the reasons my dad gave me are valid. I just didn’t want my dad to be upset and I think he is but was remaining calm as when somebody else loses their temper so do I. However now subconsciously thinking about it. I think he was partly, in the wrong and just using me for to suit his purposes and here are my points.

First of all he asks what im doing decides to give me the job right so I didn’t go to him he came to me by asking my dad whats your son doing. Which will lead to you wondering why? The reason is I think it’s safe to say pretty much all his staff has thieved from him etc and when he found out or caught them he could do nothing about it. Now you will be wondering why couldn’t he do anything I did not know originally but this guy dosent employ people using contracts and so if anyone screws him over what can he do about it. The reason he dosent hire anyone is because he prefers part time workers he says and has hired multiple workers in the past and now I know why he dosent take out contracts. Its so he can fire people whenever he wants I mean imaging waking up to be fired without notice and this is coming from a guy who asks for notice. When I couldn’t come in which was only once I told him 2 weeks in advance which is enough time and guess what it was this Friday that I could not come in anyone wanna guess why? So imagine how much that pisses me off. Then he is all like I need to know if your going back to uni or not im short of workers when my sister goes to uni im going to be stuffed etc so im taking that into account with my decision.

He cant find anyone reliable, plenty of people would have liked to have worked for him but he can only trust them as far as he can throw them. I told him I don’t steal, or do anything bad I don’t smoke, I don’t drink I told him right off the bat the only problem you will get with me is lazyness. So he gives me a trial shows me the tricks of the trade says its taking me too long to get the stuff im thinking yeah obviously im taking my time there isn’t any rush the guy im replacing is leaving in six weeks and I don’t have a good memory. So like a month in he is like I don’t think I can hire you im like originally I wasn’t sure I could do it now I am and from that point ive been working there part time. He was going to get another guy also to work there unfortunantley for him he already has a full time job that he is happy with and right now im thinking he only took me on because he was screwed.

Because at the moment he is training another guy, reliable obviously and im thinking if the new guy wasn’t there he wouldn’t have fired me. Also this guy is notoriously known to hire and fire people really quickly and I figured that was because he caught them stealing or something of a similar nature like selling products cheap to their mates which he told me a past employee did. So ive been working for him he has been happy no problems im thinking cause ive been sick and had to close up to use toilet he fired me and WTF what a way to do it. Call my dad up and tell him he needs to talk to him who does that. Any for the most part I understand and accept it with no hard feelings except for how he fired me I feel betrayed in a sense I feel he did what his employees did to him.

A guy who had worked for him pretty much since he opened the store had done that to him aswell he discovered that he was taking a bunch of scratch cards at the end of the day and well scratching them to win. Also filling bags of food drinks etc up and taking them this is all without paying. He phoned the guy to tell him he needed to talk to him and a friend of the guys replied and said he dosent want to work for you anymore. Of course that guy knew that john knew. You may be wondering how does john know about this well cctv and thats what he has been using on me I didn’t know until he mentioned it a couple of weeks ago I felt horrible about it I don’t like people looking at me never mind spying on me I asked him don’t you trust me he says you wouldn’t be here if I didn’t. I just don’t know what to say about it.

Lastly john just taught me the tricks of the trade and told me when to come in he didn’t set any rules or boundaries. Nothing about the use of the toilet, or whether I could eat or not. So how am I meant to feel when he sacks me when, he dosent discuss anything with me talk to me if you have a problem. One time literally one time I was tired restless night and I sat down on the stool while working he told me not to he dosent like employees sitting down I said ok I won’t do it again and did not. I thought he had no problem with food I asked him if it was alright for me to eat he replies don’t be silly of course its alright. Couple of weeks later erm I don’t like it when you eat hot food it looks bad and blah blah blah and I stopped I didn’t eat hot food from then on there, He also was complaining about crisps and stuff etc he does so in a dodgy way so im not sure of what he means. So I think I got out 80- 90 percent of what I wanted to say even if it didn’t come out right. But please do comment and if you have read all of this then great job and you will defo be receiving plus rep from me however please try to be nice with your comments as im depressed about the situation already I don’t need horrible comments thank you.

P.s let me know what you think about the whole situation, was what he did right, did he over-react let me know about myself and if im really to blame considering my extreme case of insomnia and taking into account I was ill this week and wish I didn’t go in and how he handled the whole situation, and if he was clear enough and what you think of him in general cause up till now I thought he was a nice guy clearly only to my face. So yeah please give me your opinions.

Summary (dosent really explain it but saaaaaadpanda said i should put it in)

Guy hires me through my dad
Dosent talk to me about any problems he has with me complains to my dad
Has not established any rules
Safe to say he was just using me for time being
Now that another worker is here has replaced me
I feared i was being replaced but thought i was being paranoid
Always trust your instincts
Was sick this week closed up twice because of it for 15 to use toilet.
Guy is literally dying and has fired me pretty much cause of it.
Fired me in an unjust manner, wake up to find i have been fired by my dad no less
What a coward


There hope that summarises it but you wont understand properly unless you read the whole thing but alas it is too long for some people. Me personally i love long threads, i however hate short threads e.g. tobi is obito here is proof a pharagrah of writing or this guy beats this guy end of post lol.
 
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I understand that its long but i would like a grip on the situation what transpired what do people think of him as im in two minds about it. Was he right or was he wrong?

Also i will be + repping for people who actually read the whole thing and can help me out by giving me their views on the situation
 

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Sorry dude times are tough hope u can find a new one
 

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Yeah, I only made it about half way. It's just too much for anyone to care. Try making a concise summary at the end?

Also i will be + repping for people who actually read the whole thing and can help me out by giving me their views on the situation

1 point of rep isn't worth breaking through that wall of text. Make it easier to read.
 

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Sorry dude times are tough hope u can find a new one

Thanks, i liked it cause it was close and the times were good for me i have insomia so working at 9 in morning is not possible for me i used to start work at 3pm here to 8pm. The guy was complaining about how i wasnt flexible and couldnt work mornings. If he had an actual schedule it would work out but no no he just has to make it hard.
 

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Sorry but way to much to read, I read half and my eyes hurt U_U. Sorry for what happend, find a new job. Your grammar is a bit hard to read also.
 

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Ok I read all of it. :scorps: I feel bad for you bro, man don't worry just forget about the past. Maybe, just take some rest and chill home. You are better than those douches. :) I've had problems like you too. U_U
 

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that sucks dude! but you cant really do anything about it because of the no contract deal... But you shouldnt take getting fired too personally since it sounds like he does it a lot... the best thing to do is probably just move on to another job.
Ps. have you tried sleeping pills for your insomnia?
 
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its seems like that dude has a trust problem he says you to do one thing and something wrong happens he will blame is on you though it might have been your idea even if you would have been the perfect worker he would have found fault in you if i was you i would try to find another job unless you could deal with john complaining to you i promise you its more his fault then yours if he can't trust any of his employees he might as well close business because it takes more than one person to run one so you either give him a choice rather to trust you or not because he's is not the one thats hurting its you like you said he fires people like nothing but that will mess him up if people learn that he is always you know like you say he is people will not want to work their
 

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I read to almost the end. John didn't trust you from the begining. He obviously had trust issues since his previously employment did him wrong. Like you said, you were temporarily because of your Dad pulling some strings. Although your Job performance was a bit poor, you kind of mess yourself up for asking questions of trust, especially to him. What he did was not job professional, as telling your Dad and not you directly or face to face. Overall, you handle the situation of being fired well. At least, being positive, it provide extra experince on a resume, however, being fired-part could hurt you for your next job. Now you have to explain, why you got fired. <LOL>
 

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Ok I read all of it. :scorps: I feel bad for you bro, man don't worry just forget about the past. Maybe, just take some rest and chill home. You are better than those douches. :) I've had problems like you too. U_U

Thanks alot i feel abit better about it. I felt like it was my fault but thanks

that sucks dude! but you cant really do anything about it because of the no contract deal... But you shouldnt take getting fired too personally since it sounds like he does it a lot... the best thing to do is probably just move on to another job.
Ps. have you tried sleeping pills for your insomnia?

Yeah tell me about it, here i am feeling sorry for him for what people have done to him only to have him do something similar to me, well in terms of how i feel. Sleeping pills are really not good for you and are not a life time cure however i tried some they worked for a little while then they gave me stronger one they worked for a little while, i just get immune to them. There is something wrong with me but i dont know what it is impossible for me to sleep. At first i used to watch tv and fall asleep, then play some games nothing extreme then reading however having to switch off the light woke me up and now i read on narutobase however it takes a while to get to sleep. Does anyone know of anything that works for insomnia?
 

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1) If you're on time you're late, if you're early you're on time. It's a job you have to treat it that way.
2) All I see are excuses.
3) See a doctor about how often you have to use the bathroom. That's not right.
4) most people aren't told before they're fired.
5) John should have trained you better.
 

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its seems like that dude has a trust problem he says you to do one thing and something wrong happens he will blame is on you though it might have been your idea even if you would have been the perfect worker he would have found fault in you if i was you i would try to find another job unless you could deal with john complaining to you i promise you its more his fault then yours if he can't trust any of his employees he might as well close business because it takes more than one person to run one so you either give him a choice rather to trust you or not because he's is not the one thats hurting its you like you said he fires people like nothing but that will mess him up if people learn that he is always you know like you say he is people will not want to work their

The guy has already fired me, thats the whole point
 

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read it all as i love reading anyways in those circumstances i think theirs nothing wrong but the way he fired you and why he fired you seems pretty stupid
 

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Lmaooo ... "John" sounds like a douche and the fact that he wouldn't directly address seems be that he doesn't consider you on his level or some...

Also if your really serious about this, you could sue him; from what I read you have a list of legit medical problems...which are the reasons for you problems at work...

Your dad, knowing more about you than him, should have done more than just call you and till you "John" doesn't want you to come in, wtf is up with that...
 
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I read to almost the end. John didn't trust you from the begining. He obviously had trust issues since his previously employment did him wrong. Like you said, you were temporarily because of your Dad pulling some strings. Although your Job performance was a bit poor, you kind of mess yourself up for asking questions of trust, especially to him. What he did was not job professional, as telling your Dad and not you directly or face to face. Overall, you handle the situation of being fired well. At least, being positive, it provide extra experince on a resume, however, being fired-part could hurt you for your next job. Now you have to explain, why you got fired. <LOL>

Good point, i guess he didnt trust me but i kinda cant blame him because of his past employees. However he knows my dad i told him im not like that guess he was just looking for an excuse. Ill agree on my job performacnce being low and i concur he was not professional about it. Yeah i guess my handle on the situation isnt bad so far its just i keep feeling slightly worse by the minute. I guess ill just have to learn to let some things go.
 

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read it all as i love reading anyways in those circumstances i think theirs nothing wrong but the way he fired you and why he fired you seems pretty stupid

Tell me about it what a way to find out your fired and as for the firing reason i agree its stupid however looking at it from his point of view he is thinking how much money he has lost as it was near the end of lottery time,(UK) and quite a few people come in sometimes but i really needed the toilet.

Lmaooo ... "John" sounds like a douche and the fact that he wouldn't directly address seems be that he doesn't consider you on his level or some...

Also if your really serious about this, you could sue him; from what I read you have a list of legit medical problems...which are the reasons for you problems at work...

Your dad, knowing more about you than him, should have done more than just call you and till you "John" doesn't want you to come in, wtf is up with that...

Yeah he is like 46+ or something so i guess old age could be why he dosent consider me on same level. Yeah i know i have medical problems however doctors cant seem to do anything about it i mean yeesh come on. I can figure out more by doing a quick search on internet. Yeah i agree my dad could and should have done more however i wouldnt want him to get into a disagreement with john or fallout over me. End of the day it was johns decision and yeah my dad can be weird sometimes
 
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