Madara > Tobi

[UzumakiNaruto20]

Name the 15 Kages Kabuto can summon, please do..

I see that you decided to ignore my first point but whatever. Itachi, Nagato, Third Raikage, Mu, and Second Mizukage would be far stronger than the current 5 living Kage. Your not seriously going to sit there and tell me that Edo Madara can solo all those undead ninjas with unlimited chakra when he had a hard time dealing with 5 ninjas with limited chakra? Kabuto himself can break Ultimate Susanoo if he needs to:flaw:

And asking me who Kabuto can summon is pointless cause I'm quite sure you've read the manga yourself.:|

 

[Stark]

I see that you decided to ignore my first point but whatever. Itachi, Nagato, Third Raikage, Mu, and Second Mizukage would be far stronger than the current 5 living Kage. Your not seriously going to sit there and tell me that Edo Madara can solo all those undead ninjas with unlimited chakra when he had a hard time dealing with 5 ninjas with limited chakra? Kabuto himself can break Ultimate Susanoo if he needs to:flaw:

And asking me who Kabuto can summon is pointless cause I'm quite sure you've read the manga yourself.:|

Edo Madara as you can see is breaking away from Edo, Kabuto would shit bricks. As for the Kage situation, Madara was toying with the current 5 Kage. So if he chooses to be serious he would end them immediately. 50 Mokuton clones using Susanoo sound good to me.. Also meteors from the sky.. Is Itachi going to seal them before they hit ground? Please...

 

[epictobi]

Tobi is strong, but didn't impress me like Madara did.

MADARA CANT TOUCH TOBI U_U end of..... Tobi mid difficulty U_U dumb madara fan U_U

 

[epictobi]

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but tobi can control literally all the tailed beast, madara only had one, an tobis got that ****in statue of the outer path BS that just eats tailed beasts for fun an he hasnt even started to try we dont kno wtf he can REALLY do yet....tbh all tobi needs against madara is s/t and hes toast game o ver...U_U

 

[Helikido]

I see that you decided to ignore my first point but whatever. Itachi, Nagato, Third Raikage, Mu, and Second Mizukage would be far stronger than the current 5 living Kage. Your not seriously going to sit there and tell me that Edo Madara can solo all those undead ninjas with unlimited chakra when he had a hard time dealing with 5 ninjas with limited chakra? Kabuto himself can break Ultimate Susanoo if he needs to:flaw:

And asking me who Kabuto can summon is pointless cause I'm quite sure you've read the manga yourself.:|

Itachi wouldn't be under kabutos control. Then, after that he will end kabuto and use izanami to stop redo tensie only to repeat what happened again

 

[Helikido]

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but tobi can control literally all the tailed beast, madara only had one, an tobis got that ****in statue of the outer path BS that just eats tailed beasts for fun an he hasnt even started to try we dont kno wtf he can REALLY do yet....tbh all tobi needs against madara is s/t and hes toast game o ver...U_U

In reality those are kabutos edo tensie paths so no Tobi does not have paths.

 

[epictobi]

In reality those are kabutos edo tensie paths so no Tobi does not have paths.

IDIIIIOT U_U tobi doesnt need the jinchurici alive to use the 6 paths .....all pains paths were dead bodie bieng ued fool U_U so yh you fail :flaw:

 

[Klubargutan]

No. Kabuto with all his edo's can take Madara low diff. Madara only got free because of outside influences. It wouldn't have happened if Kabuto had been paying attention.

1. Kabuto

2. Edo Madara

3. Tobi/Naruto

no, madara with rinnegan, clone spam, complete susanoo, shinra tensei spam, absorbing jutsus, meteorite spam, hashi's jutsus spam and so can very damage the revived ones and with rinnegan clones can take their souls away. madara mid diff

 

[Narutobleach1]

IDIIIIOT U_U tobi doesnt need the jinchurici alive to use the 6 paths .....all pains paths were dead bodie bieng ued fool U_U so yh you fail :flaw:

He doesn't need them alive? So your saying he is going to keep using them next chapter? Fools..

 

[epictobi]

He doesn't need them alive? So your saying he is going to keep using them next chapter? Fools..

if he puts some rods in them U_U pathetic

 

[Exaar]

Madara maybe Stronger.

But he hasn't the speed to Defeat tobi's S/T.

madara>tobi. his techniques are on a larger scale and madara obviously has a much greater mastery of ninja skills. but alas the tobi fanboys will screech space-time ninjutsu despite fodders and konan devising counters for them.

Large scale attacks mean nothing against tobi.

Konan has years of Perp to fight tobi.

 

[S2 DzL]

Sure Tobi has space time jutsu, but Madara changes LANDSCAPES... I think he'd just be overpowered...

 

[Narutobleach1]

if he puts some rods in them U_U pathetic

His paths went away with Edo you idiot

 

[epictobi]

ok so pain needed edo to use his paths? ...U_U ilogical fool you fail to recognise the amount of fail your comments possess ...hmph U_U end of..

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Lol it does not matter what Edo Madara possess as long as Tobi has S/T ability. And simply because of Tobi's S/T he has a higher chance of defeating Madara. Yes Madara is strong in terms of raw power but against Tobi's S/T all is useless unless Madara has counters. Which I also doubt since great speed and the posession of S/T ability itself are required to counter it.

 

[3MESSIAH]

tobi may have rinnegan now but i dont think that he could defeat madara.fix that poll already

 

[TobisPawn]

If you do not believe you are ignorant..

Madara: Madara is the most powerful Uchiha to ever live, the only person in the Uchiha clan to match his power is his brother Izuna. Even he is no match for him, but he is long dead now. He also seems to know the seal to break away from Edo Tensei.

Madara is the closest person to the SO6P, he has vast knowledge of jutsu and knows a variety of ninjutsu as well. Madara has the Sharingan, EMS, and Rinnengan, not to mention wood release. He fought and survived a fight with Hashirama Senju and controlled the 9 Tails with his Sharingan.


Tobi: Tobi is probably the third strongest ninja maybe fourth after Hashirama. Tobi has the Sharingan and Rinnengan and has shown the ability to use the paths. Not much is known about Tobi, whether he is an Uchiha or not is a mystery as well..

He controlled the 9 Tails with his Sharingan and attacked the leaf village. He fought on equal standing with Minato losing to him at the end.
Tobi has space time ninjutsu and an odd ability to regenerate limbs.


Now the real question is, who do you think is stronger? Vote and debate below.

Madara: Sharingan, Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnengan, Wood Release, Preta Path, Perfect Susanoo.

Tobi: Sharingan, Rinnengan, Space Time Ninjutsu, Preta path and Paths of pain.

Not including SO6P, Tobi's third or fourth? Behind Hashirama? The hell? And you're forgetting that Madara used an MS to control Kurama whereas Tobi only needed a 3-tomoe. And the fact that Tobi can control perfect Jinchuurikis via Genjutsu. And you should put Gedo Mazo next to Tobi's abilities if you're putting P.Susanoo separately.

I'd put it more like:
1. Kabuto (Edo Madara)
2. Tobi
3. Edo Madara

Anyways, Madara is stronger (power wise) but I'd bet on Tobi if they fought.

madara>tobi. his techniques are on a larger scale and madara obviously has a much greater mastery of ninja skills. but alas the tobi fanboys will screech space-time ninjutsu despite fodders and konan devising counters for them.

The fodders didn't even counter them, pal. And Madara doesn't have prep time nor does he have 600 billion explosives and intel on Tobi's S/T techs. And Tobi has the Rinnegan now. I really don't understand your logic sometimes.

None of Madara's "ninja skills" mean anything when Tobi can go intangible. Neither does
large scale Ninjutsu mean anything.

 

[Stark]

Not including SO6P, Tobi's third or fourth? Behind Hashirama? The hell? And you're forgetting that Madara used an MS to control Kurama whereas Tobi only needed a 3-tomoe. And the fact that Tobi can control perfect Jinchuurikis via Genjutsu. And you should put Gedo Mazo next to Tobi's abilities if you're putting P.Susanoo separately.

I'd put it more like:
1. Kabuto (Edo Madara)
2. Tobi
3. Edo Madara

Anyways, Madara is stronger (power wise) but I'd bet on Tobi if they fought.



The fodders didn't even counter them, pal. And Madara doesn't have prep time nor does he have 600 billion explosives and intel on Tobi's S/T techs. And Tobi has the Rinnegan now. I really don't understand your logic sometimes.

None of Madara's "ninja skills" mean anything when Tobi can go intangible. Neither does
large scale Ninjutsu mean anything.

Did you see Kurama with the EMS in his eyes or the Sharingan? OH OKAY

 

[TobisPawn]

Did you see Kurama with the EMS in his eyes or the Sharingan? OH OKAY

Then the only two people to control Kurama have used base Sharingans, though it was stated that MS is required. I think Kishi's trolling us...but yeah I'll accept what you said I guess

 

[Cerox0]

IDIIIIOT U_U tobi doesnt need the jinchurici alive to use the 6 paths .....all pains paths were dead bodie bieng ued fool U_U so yh you fail :flaw:

Corpses are needed for the 6 paths.

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It is unclear whether akatsuki kept the corpses.
However since Kabuto used Edo Tensei to revive them, I doubt they had the corpses.

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So infact Tobi could not use the jinchuriki without kabuto actually giving him the physical bodies.