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Tobi>Madara and ems madara<hashi,nagato,naruto and many ots
 

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kabuto 1v1'ing ? what? he can just give his edos orders to fight and they will fight..+he can fight as well... If he wants to directly control them, then that's up to him...

Prime madara only has Ems, Aka the same man who would have died by the gaara , oonoki , naruto combo attack...

Tobi will shit on ems madara... s/t, 6 edo jinchuriki's all capable of using their jutsu... Bijuu modes, tbbs, SHITTTT on him

Who told you prime Madara only has EMS? Prime Madara is with Rinnengan
 

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Who told you prime Madara only has EMS? Prime Madara is with Rinnengan

Prime madara is EMS by friend...

Madara got rinnegan before he died.. and seeing as he knows nagato, he died at 80 something...

Kabuto brought madara back BEYOND his prime.. A young body with rinengan..Which is why he's a special edo...Which is why EDO madara is part of kabuto's power/.....
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Tobi Can.

His 7 Bijuu > 5kages.

Also kabuto is Currently Beating the 5kages with Edo Madara. xd

Edo madara is Part of Edo Tensei, Edo tensei belongs to Kabuto.
 

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Really dumb. Madara can't be > Kabuto because Edo Madara is Kabuto's power. Ridiculous how some people can say that, like they are seperate entities. If not for Kabuto, Madara would still be buried in the ground somewhere. Madara is to Kabuto what Gamabunta is to Jiraiya. And just lol at those saying Edo Madara > Tobi when Tobi would kidnap him in under 2 mins.
 

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Really dumb. Madara can't be > Kabuto because Edo Madara is Kabuto's power. Ridiculous how some people can say that, like they are seperate entities. If not for Kabuto, Madara would still be buried in the ground somewhere. Madara is to Kabuto what Gamabunta is to Jiraiya. And just lol at those saying Edo Madara > Tobi when Tobi would kidnap him in under 2 mins.

Madara in his PRIME. NOT BEING CONTROLLED BY KABUTO. Jesus..
 

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Madara in his PRIME. NOT BEING CONTROLLED BY KABUTO. Jesus..

I think you're confused about Madara's 'prime'. He's never been as strong as he is now. When he had the Rinnegan he was close to dying, so don't assume he was very good with it. lol ok you just weakened him. My days....
 

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"Madara's abilities led Gaara to wonder if he had the power of a god as he sent a meteorite hurtling towards them.[25] Kabuto commented that combining Madara's power with Hashirama's, the only man stronger than Madara, has made him Kabuto's ultimate, unstoppable trump card. With this combined prowess, Madara has shown to be capable of holding his own against all five of the current Kage at once."


To the guy who said madara would lose because in reality he's just an 80 year old corpse, that's got to be the stupidest thing I've read on this thread. When you do a battle scenario between two characters and one of them is dead you obviously don't put a corpse up against a living fighter you take the person when he was alive and able to fight.

Now, I still think madara beats tobi if he's edo or not. If you take madara at his strongest he had rinnegan. That's the ability he had before he died don't give me that bull shit saying "he ONLY got it before he died". No, that's one of the abilities he had so that's what's going to be used in this battle simulation. Not only did he have rinnegan, but he hand EMS. madara is also able to switch between the two at will. What ever jutsu tobi decides to use madara can absorb with his rinnengan abilities. I understand tobi has control of 6 bijuu or whatever, but who's to say madara can't steal control from one or two or even all? The 9 tails said madras chakra was the most sinister chakra he'd ever felt. The 9 tails is arguably the most powerful of the bijuu so I'm confident madara would be able to take control of Atleast one. He also has susanoo who's defensive capabilities are tremendous not to mention his susanoos also perform hand seals along with madara so it's virtually 3 on 8 (If you count the bijuus) so the odds aren't completely in Tobis favor. I understand tobi can make himself intangible, but only for 5 minutes at a time. Madara has enough chakra to perform an attack that can last 5 minutes or more. madara can also make a shadow clone and with the amount of chakra madara has his shadow clone(s) still have more than enough to use any technique needed including susanoo.

Don't write madara off because he doesn't have the bijuu he's more than capable of handling himself in a fight against tobi.
 

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"Madara's abilities led Gaara to wonder if he had the power of a god as he sent a meteorite hurtling towards them.[25] Kabuto commented that combining Madara's power with Hashirama's, the only man stronger than Madara, has made him Kabuto's ultimate, unstoppable trump card. With this combined prowess, Madara has shown to be capable of holding his own against all five of the current Kage at once."


To the guy who said madara would lose because in reality he's just an 80 year old corpse, that's got to be the stupidest thing I've read on this thread. When you do a battle scenario between two characters and one of them is dead you obviously don't put a corpse up against a living fighter you take the person when he was alive and able to fight.

Now, I still think madara beats tobi if he's edo or not. If you take madara at his strongest he had rinnegan. That's the ability he had before he died don't give me that bull shit saying "he ONLY got it before he died". No, that's one of the abilities he had so that's what's going to be used in this battle simulation. Not only did he have rinnegan, but he hand EMS. madara is also able to switch between the two at will. What ever jutsu tobi decides to use madara can absorb with his rinnengan abilities. I understand tobi has control of 6 bijuu or whatever, but who's to say madara can't steal control from one or two or even all? The 9 tails said madras chakra was the most sinister chakra he'd ever felt. The 9 tails is arguably the most powerful of the bijuu so I'm confident madara would be able to take control of Atleast one. He also has susanoo who's defensive capabilities are tremendous not to mention his susanoos also perform hand seals along with madara so it's virtually 3 on 8 (If you count the bijuus) so the odds aren't completely in Tobis favor. I understand tobi can make himself intangible, but only for 5 minutes at a time. Madara has enough chakra to perform an attack that can last 5 minutes or more. madara can also make a shadow clone and with the amount of chakra madara has his shadow clone(s) still have more than enough to use any technique needed including susanoo.

Don't write madara off because he doesn't have the bijuu he's more than capable of handling himself in a fight against tobi.

Thank you..
 

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It's really pissing me off, Kabuto cannot defeat Madara.
hand signs: release. end of fight.
you forget that madara is kabutos puppet and he can take him any time by ending the technique. thats why hes stronger. you dont see anyone placing 3rd kazekage above sasori.

and tobis stronger.

EMS + Mokuton + Rinnengan > Rinnengan + Sharingan + 6 paths
most powerful genjutsu similar to koto, gedo mazo, 7 tailed beasts, more mastery over rinnegan, izanagi, gedo mazo > madara

Tobi feared the very sight of Madara
pre rinnegan. and he wasnt scared. he was surrpised and nervous at best

when Tobi begins to release his BIJUU Madara will surely take control of them and pit them against each other.
if they are in edo jins then the chakra rods overrule mokuton

tobi isnt beating 25 of these
with 6 jins, sure he does
madara and his army of susano spamming clones can absorb all chakra based attacks thrown at them
or since they are fractions of the original, they die with one hit each
Madara will take control of the bijuu
no he cant. he CANT OVERRULE THE CHAKRA RODS
 

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hand signs: release. end of fight.
you forget that madara is kabutos puppet and he can take him any time by ending the technique. thats why hes stronger. you dont see anyone placing 3rd kazekage above sasori.

and tobis stronger.

most powerful genjutsu similar to koto, gedo mazo, 7 tailed beasts, more mastery over rinnegan, izanagi, gedo mazo > madara

pre rinnegan. and he wasnt scared. he was surrpised and nervous at best

if they are in edo jins then the chakra rods overrule mokuton

with 6 jins, sure he does
or since they are fractions of the original, they die with one hit each
no he cant. he CANT OVERRULE THE CHAKRA RODS

He will drop freaking METEORS, Madara is superior!
 

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"Madara's abilities led Gaara to wonder if he had the power of a god as he sent a meteorite hurtling towards them.[25] Kabuto commented that combining Madara's power with Hashirama's, the only man stronger than Madara, has made him Kabuto's ultimate, unstoppable trump card. With this combined prowess, Madara has shown to be capable of holding his own against all five of the current Kage at once."


To the guy who said madara would lose because in reality he's just an 80 year old corpse, that's got to be the stupidest thing I've read on this thread. When you do a battle scenario between two characters and one of them is dead you obviously don't put a corpse up against a living fighter you take the person when he was alive and able to fight.

Now, I still think madara beats tobi if he's edo or not. If you take madara at his strongest he had rinnegan. That's the ability he had before he died don't give me that bull shit saying "he ONLY got it before he died". No, that's one of the abilities he had so that's what's going to be used in this battle simulation. Not only did he have rinnegan, but he hand EMS. madara is also able to switch between the two at will. What ever jutsu tobi decides to use madara can absorb with his rinnengan abilities. I understand tobi has control of 6 bijuu or whatever, but who's to say madara can't steal control from one or two or even all? The 9 tails said madras chakra was the most sinister chakra he'd ever felt. The 9 tails is arguably the most powerful of the bijuu so I'm confident madara would be able to take control of Atleast one. He also has susanoo who's defensive capabilities are tremendous not to mention his susanoos also perform hand seals along with madara so it's virtually 3 on 8 (If you count the bijuus) so the odds aren't completely in Tobis favor. I understand tobi can make himself intangible, but only for 5 minutes at a time. Madara has enough chakra to perform an attack that can last 5 minutes or more. madara can also make a shadow clone and with the amount of chakra madara has his shadow clone(s) still have more than enough to use any technique needed including susanoo.

Don't write madara off because he doesn't have the bijuu he's more than capable of handling himself in a fight against tobi.

The madara you see fighting the five kage
was made by kabuto, his young body, made by kabuto


Real madara prime is 40 year old body, ems and moukouton...



Kabuto's madara, is 40 year old body, ems , moukouton and rinnegan

Get the difference
 

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The madara you see fighting the five kage
was made by kabuto, his young body, made by kabuto


Real madara prime is 40 year old body, ems and moukouton...



Kabuto's madara, is 40 year old body, ems , moukouton and rinnegan

Get the difference

Prime means at his best, don't tell me what prime is. SO6P prime is being the 10 tails host. He is still very powerful with it but his prime is being the 10 tails jinchuriki
 

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Tobi is one of the only people who can argurably beat Edo Madara
 
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