Skill and Intelligence has gone out the window.

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Has anyone noticed the trend in Naruto and Sasuke over the series? It just seems like they get power up after power up and each time it seems like less work. I will admit that Sasuke is worse about it.

In the beginning of series Sasuke's first move was fireball jutsu err whatever. After lots of training and scrutiny of his father he was able to master it. It took him like month practicing dusk til dawn. Then he got Sharingan because he was in a life and death situation with Haku which seemed kind of out of the blue but he probably did earn it. After that however it goes down hill. He gets Curse mark lvl 1 just because Oro identified him as a good vessel. He trains for a week and masters chidori. Then level two for the same reason as level one. He gets his third tomoe just randomly fighting and didn't even train to get it. In part two he he kills Itachi who went 20% at best against him to unlock his MS then takes EMS from Itachi after the most half-assed battle in the series. And chances are good he is going to get some badass eye technique like kotoamatsukami or he is going to unlock Rinnegan!

Take Naruto now. He spent his entire life training and getting stronger until he turned 12. He did train about the same as Sasuke and ended up releasing One-tail at the same time Sasuke got sharingan. After getting a few tails Naruto gets his Rasengan that I will admit he worked hard for. Naruto goes and trains with J-man for 2- years. After that is when he goes down hill. He gets Rasenshurdiken(or however it's spelled) through his hacked shadow clone mob training bull shit. It takes him like a day or two. He then gets Sage mode after like a week at Mt. Myoboku. After that he kills Nagato and gets Ninetails Chakra mode without much effort, all he really had to do is ask, then he gets perfect transformation just by hugging it out with the Kyubi.

So what I am saying is that throughout the series there has been less and less training to receive power-ups. Naruto and Sasuke's battle became less about their intel and actually carrying out the missions they are one and more about spamming ameratsu and rasengan. They have become less ninja and more super saiyans. I will concede that it isn't as bad as the power scaling on Bleach and it doesn't really take away from the show that much, I would like to see more Taijutusu that doesn't involve the gay-ass ghost robot though!
 

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somewhat do agree.

but naruto did train a bit to control the fox.
 

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i agree that naruto got bijuu mode early :(
 

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Dude prepare your oven mitts.
 

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Has anyone noticed the trend in Naruto and Sasuke over the series? It just seems like they get power up after power up and each time it seems like less work. I will admit that Sasuke is worse about it.

In the beginning of series Sasuke's first move was fireball jutsu err whatever. After lots of training and scrutiny of his father he was able to master it. It took him like month practicing dusk til dawn. Then he got Sharingan because he was in a life and death situation with Haku which seemed kind of out of the blue but he probably did earn it. After that however it goes down hill. He gets Curse mark lvl 1 just because Oro identified him as a good vessel. He trains for a week and masters chidori. Then level two for the same reason as level one. He gets his third tomoe just randomly fighting and didn't even train to get it. In part two he he kills Itachi who went 20% at best against him to unlock his MS then takes EMS from Itachi after the most half-assed battle in the series. And chances are good he is going to get some badass eye technique like kotoamatsukami or he is going to unlock Rinnegan!

Take Naruto now. He spent his entire life training and getting stronger until he turned 12. He did train about the same as Sasuke and ended up releasing One-tail at the same time Sasuke got sharingan. After getting a few tails Naruto gets his Rasengan that I will admit he worked hard for. Naruto goes and trains with J-man for 2- years. After that is when he goes down hill. He gets Rasenshurdiken(or however it's spelled) through his hacked shadow clone mob training bull shit. It takes him like a day or two. He then gets Sage mode after like a week at Mt. Myoboku. After that he kills Nagato and gets Ninetails Chakra mode without much effort, all he really had to do is ask, then he gets perfect transformation just by hugging it out with the Kyubi.

So what I am saying is that throughout the series there has been less and less training to receive power-ups. Naruto and Sasuke's battle became less about their intel and actually carrying out the missions they are one and more about spamming ameratsu and rasengan. They have become less ninja and more super saiyans. I will concede that it isn't as bad as the power scaling on Bleach and it doesn't really take away from the show that much, I would like to see more Taijutusu that doesn't involve the gay-ass ghost robot though!

Bolded=LMAO xd

OT: I agree with you.
 

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Eh I aggree on a level I want their battle to be mainly tai jutsu probs in base mode for part of it cause I imagine thats gonna be much more emotional if you know what I mean the way they fight in the animes outro atm would be class rather than Susannoo and Bijuu mode hitting off each other
 

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Agreed, but I still love it :D
 

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You unlock everything in the sharingan by being in life or death situations. Yes, the CM things were kinda gay. It was life or death for Sasuke against Naruto using the nine tails chakra. Itachi wasn't just going 20% or else he wouldn't have used Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo. Yes he planned on dying before Sasuke but not in the way it actually happened. In Sasuke's fight with the kage and against Danzo, he had to use his brain along with his MS techs.

Naruto is power derives from Kurama. He takes advantage of his high chakra to train, something unique to him. It was a lot of effort getting to use nine tails chakra mode. Him befriending Kurama is the only way to get BM, just like Bee and the eight tails.

It has been less and less training for the two main characters because they are supposed to stand out. It goes with the whole new gen surpasses the old gen thing. Sasuke is a genius so he learns things fast, this is how it has been since part 1. Naruto is able to use shadow clones to learn quickly and it is shown he is a genius as well with his quick learning of SM. When they fight it still is about intelligence. Sasuke used his elemental advantage against Deidara, the heat of Amaterasu against Itachi, and his observation skills and genjutsu timing against Danzo. Naruto used shadow clones to gain intel on Kakuzu, previous intel and derived strategy against Pain, teamwork against Muu, and key observation skills against the third raikage. It isn't all about raw power.
 

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The only thing handed to sasuke was itachi's eyes and naruto trains very hard. Sasuke if just natural skill that's why he seems like he gets free power ups. I would say Gaara is a questionable one how did he retain such power with the sand after Shikaku was removed. Seems like a short amount of time to regain such control over the sand.
 
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