Kishi needs to be more ballsy?

[bornfree]

I think what makes for great epics are the sense of loss. How long has it been since we had a death that we were saddened by? Not since Saruobi & son! Sure we all miss pein and Itachi, but despite their tragic histories, they were ultimately bad guys and "set" to die by the hand of plot. Since the shinobi war started, the armies have taken big hits, yet strangely all the characters we know are still around? Madara's meteor took out the entire fourth division, but all the beloved characters are alive and well? I am not saying I want a character I like to die, but thats what good stories are about! its about not giving what the reader wants, but what is required to make the story great.

 

[XZA]

this thread ahs been made plenty times before. please use the search tool when creating threads

 

[99minutes]

He's got two balls.
If we're lucky, he might grow a third one.

40,000 shinobi died in this war, what more do you want? xD

 

[Killeya]

He's got two balls.
If we're lucky, he might grow a third one.

40,000 shinobi died in this war, what more do you want? xD

for now and im SURE that at least one important character will die in the next couple of weeks

 

[Baka Sennin]

how dare you forget Jiraiya :O

 

[bornfree]

He's got two balls.
If we're lucky, he might grow a third one.

40,000 shinobi died in this war, what more do you want? xD

Not anyone I know! In a fictional universe unknown characters dying doesnt mean crap!

 

[99minutes]

for now and im SURE that at least one important character will die in the next couple of weeks

Not anyone I know! In a fictional universe unknown characters dying doesnt mean crap!

I'm a man of change every 5 minutes, so I agree xD
You'd think that this giant war, hinting the end of the series, at least one important character would die, right? :shrug:

I thought Onoki would die for sure when Madara threw those giant meatballs on top of his skull. But no, he survived and still had energy. WTF MAN?! :|

My reaction exactly:

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[Itachi Namikaze]

One reason your post is messed up.

The most important death in the series and you completely forgot about it.

JIRAIYA!!

 

[bornfree]

One reason your post is messed up.

The most important death in the series and you completely forgot about it.

JIRAIYA!!

That I did my bad, yeah miss J man, RIP.

 

[Ambriel]

Kakashi died for 5 mins that wasnt good enough for u

 

[Floydical]

Ya as Baka pointed out, the death of Jiraya was by far the most tragic death for the majority of the Naruto fanbase.

But as to your question, I honestly don't feel that the war is a good story setting for a character to die. I mean, yes you would certainly expect deaths of main characters in a war, but it is not a good setting to have a big character die. I don't know if I'll be able to get my point across... but I'll keep trying.

The thing is, the deaths of Saru/ Asuma/ Jiraya were some pretty extreme ninja battles. Saru was one on one with Oro and had made the decision to take Oro down with him. That would not have happened in almost any other scenario. Asuma and company were taken back by the two strongest enemies that we had ever seen in the manga. If it had not been for Pain summoning them, everyone, including the reinforcements, would have died. As for Jiraya, well all I can say is that Pain was the perfect shinobi and jiraya taking him down once and for all without anyone previously knowing anything about the man is simply unfathomable.

My point is that all of these battles were essentially first encounters with the opponent. Now that all these shinobi's jutsu's have been revealed, having an edo of them kill an important character is not a good plot device. Yes, there were plenty of other new characters that were summoned as edo's, but the battles have simply been to fast paced for any deaths to occur. What I mean by that is Kishi has always dedicated at least half a chapter to a person's death. He has always put a lot of meaning behind his deaths. To be quite honest, I don't feel that Kishi will have any major characters die in the war because it would be contrary to his writing style.

Again, I hope I'm making sense here, but based on what I consider to be Kishi's writing style, and how fast paced these battles have been, I think having a major death in the war is out of the question. I guess since the longer the war goes on, the less villains are left standing, but I still feel that no matter what, the odds are stacked against us seeing a main character die.

 

[99minutes]

Ya as Baka pointed out, the death of Jiraya was by far the most tragic death for the majority of the Naruto fanbase.

But as to your question, I honestly don't feel that the war is a good story setting for a character to die. I mean, yes you would certainly expect deaths of main characters in a war, but it is not a good setting to have a big character die. I don't know if I'll be able to get my point across... but I'll keep trying.

The thing is, the deaths of Saru/ Asuma/ Jiraya were some pretty extreme ninja battles. Saru was one on one with Oro and had made the decision to take Oro down with him. That would not have happened in almost any other scenario. Asuma and company were taken back by the two strongest enemies that we had ever seen in the manga. If it had not been for Pain summoning them, everyone, including the reinforcements, would have died. As for Jiraya, well all I can say is that Pain was the perfect shinobi and jiraya taking him down once and for all without anyone previously knowing anything about the man is simply unfathomable.

My point is that all of these battles were essentially first encounters with the opponent. Now that all these shinobi's jutsu's have been revealed, having an edo of them kill an important character is not a good plot device. Yes, there were plenty of other new characters that were summoned as edo's, but the battles have simply been to fast paced for any deaths to occur. What I mean by that is Kishi has always dedicated at least half a chapter to a person's death. He has always put a lot of meaning behind his deaths. To be quite honest, I don't feel that Kishi will have any major characters die in the war because it would be contrary to his writing style.

Again, I hope I'm making sense here, but based on what I consider to be Kishi's writing style, and how faced paced these battles have been, I think having a major death in the war is out of question. I guess since the longer the war goes on, the less villains are left standing, but I still feel that no matter what, the odds are stacked against us seeing a main character die.

I got exactly what you mean and I agree =DD
+rep.

To everyone else: again, I'm a man of change of every 5 minutes. Don't blame me, it's a problem xD

 

[kibaclaw]

I agree. Nothing makes a story more epic than characters dieing and the only death I cared about so far was j-man. We need more friggin deaths and no more fake deaths.

 

[Nyan Cat]

What about Tite Kubo? You complain about Naruto yet in Bleach noone dies.

 

[bornfree]

Ya as Baka pointed out, the death of Jiraya was by far the most tragic death for the majority of the Naruto fanbase.

But as to your question, I honestly don't feel that the war is a good story setting for a character to die. I mean, yes you would certainly expect deaths of main characters in a war, but it is not a good setting to have a big character die. I don't know if I'll be able to get my point across... but I'll keep trying.

The thing is, the deaths of Saru/ Asuma/ Jiraya were some pretty extreme ninja battles. Saru was one on one with Oro and had made the decision to take Oro down with him. That would not have happened in almost any other scenario. Asuma and company were taken back by the two strongest enemies that we had ever seen in the manga. If it had not been for Pain summoning them, everyone, including the reinforcements, would have died. As for Jiraya, well all I can say is that Pain was the perfect shinobi and jiraya taking him down once and for all without anyone previously knowing anything about the man is simply unfathomable.

My point is that all of these battles were essentially first encounters with the opponent. Now that all these shinobi's jutsu's have been revealed, having an edo of them kill an important character is not a good plot device. Yes, there were plenty of other new characters that were summoned as edo's, but the battles have simply been to fast paced for any deaths to occur. What I mean by that is Kishi has always dedicated at least half a chapter to a person's death. He has always put a lot of meaning behind his deaths. To be quite honest, I don't feel that Kishi will have any major characters die in the war because it would be contrary to his writing style.

Again, I hope I'm making sense here, but based on what I consider to be Kishi's writing style, and how fast paced these battles have been, I think having a major death in the war is out of the question. I guess since the longer the war goes on, the less villains are left standing, but I still feel that no matter what, the odds are stacked against us seeing a main character die.

good point, still doubt kishi is planning killing anyone yet.

 

[eddi3]

a great story doesn't need anyone to die for example take shinchan, doraemon, pokemon, etc..

well... just kill somebody man.. i say kill sakura or kakashi(not for long though) or maybe the ramen guy... just kill someone....... fukin kill naruto already.