Pain Arc Sage Mode Naruto vs 6 gate Lee

[DiamondxDust]

No shit overwhelming support doesn't make it correct... Nice strawman lol. My point was that the burden of proof is on you.
And basically all you have mentioned has already been said, "lee is faster". HOW and WHY does Lee's proposed "overwhelming speed" achieve him the win? And this is assuming your stated feats are even valid like im confused where was it stated that tsb was faster than MADARA lmao. You talk about how going off topic with unrelated feats is a waste of time and are guilty of doing just that, your reasoning is very convoluted.

How can you prove that Lee has the physical power to kill Naruto? He's fast but lacks finality.
Can you prove that the gap between their speed is so immeasurable that Naruto wouldn't be able to land a single frog kata or rasengan against Lee? Because Lee is pretty much ****ed if he gets tagged by anything.
What happens once Naruto starts using kyuubi chakra?
Do you believe that Lee can avoid all of Naruto's arsenal, his summons AND frog genjutsu?
Naruto can grab and toss hundreds of tonnes; what does Lee do if Naruto gets a grip on him at any stage of the fight?
Is Lee > Jiraiya?
Where tf does Lee rank among known shinobi if he's ABOVE Naruto?

And again, going back to the raikage example, do you really think that Ay is faster than the 3rd Raikage? Yes I understand the 3rd lacks feats but really dude cmon...

Your well thought out and factual argument is falling on deaf ears, calling other's well supported arguments fanfic and his own facts are Salamander's MO. He also thinks that Madara was stronger than Hashirama back when they were both alive.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lee in the 6th Gate has literally not done a damn thing in this Manga besides throwing a Kunai yet this guy is wanking this hard to him. :lol

Btw, Gudo Dama can only outspeed Kamui from close range. Lee saved Gai from a long range assault and he was only in the 5th Gate. Stop wanking. :lol

 

[salamander uchiha]

Holy sh*t. It doesn't matter where it impacted. Listen one more time.
1. First point is Naruto... or point A
2. Second point is Pain... or point B
3. We know that when Naruto threw FTR, 5 seconds were left
4. We also know that soon after Pain dodged FTR and it passed him, Pain says 1 second left
5. 5-1= 1 second
6. Time taken to travel from Point A to B is less than or equal to 1 second, therefore, it went from Naruto to Pain in 1 second or less.

That's as basic as it gets my friend, that's all I have to say on the matter.

And like I said we can't establish how far it travelled because we have no way to measure distance travelled. The actual factor which would allow for it's speed to be measured.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Your well thought out and factual argument is falling on deaf ears, calling other's well supported arguments fanfic and his own facts are Salamander's MO. He also thinks that Madara was stronger than Hashirama back when they were both alive.

Well thought out please bro. And yes Madara is and was stronger kishi says Madara has no weaknesses (that included people) and your saying he does. If your butthurt about it take it up with Kishi.

 

[Merkel]

And like I said we can't establish how far it travelled because we have no way to measure distance travelled. The actual factor which would allow for it's speed to be measured.

glad you're addressing the hard hitting points of the discussion lmao

 

[salamander uchiha]

glad you're addressing the hard hitting points of the discussion lmao

They have to be addressed me and diamond were having this discussion for a while now.

 

[Merkel]

They have to be addressed me and diamond were having this discussion for a while now.

still waiting for you to actually back up your arguments as to why Lee beats Naruto Zzz

 

[salamander uchiha]

still waiting for you to actually back up your arguments as to why Lee beats Naruto Zzz

I've already told you Sage mode Naruto's slower so won't be able to counter Lee's speed and power. It's really that simple. It doesnt need much backing when Naruto couldn't counter blind base Madara's speed or shrug of the attack he can't do that with Lee. So Lee off' s him it's pretty easy to see.

 

[DiamondxDust]

And like I said we can't establish how far it travelled because we have no way to measure distance travelled. The actual factor which would allow for it's speed to be measured.

Yes, we don't actually have a distance to work with (ex. 50 meters) . I just wanted you to look at that picture, and imagine something travelling that distance in only 1 second. To me that's extremely fast, but it's not really worth talking about anymore, it's a little off topic like others have said.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ignoring the obvious troll, I think it's clear that Naruto shits.

-He's more durable.
-He's stronger by far.
-He has better reflexes and reaction speed.
-Frog Kata that Lee can't see.

That also doesn't include ninjutsu such as clones and Rasengan. Of course this dumb fap would compare Madara to Lee despite Lee never showing a speed feat that puts him on that level.

 

[Sagebee]

What exactly happened to lee in the pain arc?

 

[DiamondxDust]

What exactly happened to lee in the pain arc?

like where was he? Team Gai was returning from a mission. remember when they passed Gamabunta who had been sent flying by shinra tensei? If you're asking what he did, he did absolutely nothing because Naruto didn't want help from anyone weaker than him

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

What exactly happened to lee in the pain arc?

He wasn't about. In the anime OP he gets blasted by Pain but in canon Team Guy are actually way too late to the party to use that as a point of comparison.

 

[Sagebee]

He wasn't about. In the anime OP he gets blasted by Pain but in canon Team Guy are actually way too late to the party to use that as a point of comparison.

Which one are you of the view who would win?

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

naruto win via Frog kata / danger sensing if anyone disagree than with summon naruto stomp 6 gate lee

As good as frog kata is, I think lee can not only keep up but actually trump it. He's a taijutsu master. Did u see how he got around shira's feathers? Gai and lee can make you move how you want which is a form of predictability

 

[Warlocks]

As good as frog kata is, I think lee can not only keep up but actually trump it. He's a taijutsu master. Did u see how he got around shira's feathers? Gai and lee can make you move how you want which is a form of predictability

but we all know that naruto is unpredictable

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

but we all know that naruto is unpredictable

its only going to take Naruto to use Frog Kata once for Lee to adapt to it.

Guys like Lee and Gai have perfected the art of hand to hand combat. Just take a look at how Lee made Shira fight exactly how he wanted to.

That one Kata punch better kill Lee because once he knows its there its not gonna work again. Also Frog Kata only worked on people who weren't on the same taijutsu level as Naruto. He's gonna have a much harder time connecting against someone moving as fast as Lee is

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Which one are you of the view who would win?

Fukasaku and Shima solo.

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Remove them? Lee gets some speedy hits in but can't outlast Naruto- who at this point can dish out equally powerful attacks without depleting himself dangerously like Lee does. Frog Kata gives him insane physical strength.

Naruto's 1k Clones, healing and stamina always made him a poor match-up for Lee anyway.

 

[Team7monaa]

Naruto high-diff assuming Lee pressures him from using FRES.