So now it isn't the ninja tools that are bad?

[Deadmed]

Sasuke says it isn't the tools that is bad, its how you use them? How exactly did Boruto use the tool wrong?

 

[Joon]

Boruto had used his ninja tool to store extra clones when he didn't have the chakra to perform them so that was considered cheating.

 

[Styles]

Because Boruto used them in a fight that is suppose to judge a shinobi strength and abilities. Him using that tool made him head and shoulders above everyone else while using abilities he don't have nor have the chakra to pull off.

 

[Avani]

He cheated in an exam where his own basic skill were being tested. It's like using smart phone with net pack in your school exams.- it wasn't allowed.

 

[Deadmed]

Boruto had used his ninja tool to store extra clones when he didn't have the chakra to perform them so that was considered cheating.

what is your signature from

 

[Greatness23]

Sasuke says it isn't the tools that is bad, its how you use them? How exactly did Boruto use the tool wrong?

Ironically, boruto used it flawlessly. Its just that he used the ninja tool as a short cut to make up for his lack of ability at the time ( basically when he's caught slipping in the exams) after Naruto had already said that, that specific ninja tool was to not be used in the exams. WHere as, Naruto used it for data collecting purposes ig.

 

[Sagebee]

Because boruto used in a time your suppose to show your skills

It's like whie your in school you might not allowed to use a calculator to show you know in the material while as adult you can

And in war anything goes

 

[-Punk-]

You must have trouble in reading comprehension

 

[The Necromancer]

Because Boruto used them in a fight that is suppose to judge a shinobi strength and abilities. Him using that tool made him head and shoulders above everyone else while using abilities he don't have nor have the chakra to pull off.

Ok, but if the exam is designed to test real world situations, hindering a Shinobi for the sake of "fairness" is foolish.

If Boruto would use the device in a real mission, then any exam where he does not use it is an inaccurate reflection of his potential. Perhaps he could only complete a mission with the bracelet. By testing him without the bracelet, he wouldn't be sent on a mission he could have accomplished.

 

[Avani]

Ok, but if the exam is designed to test real world situations, hindering a Shinobi for the sake of "fairness" is foolish.

If Boruto would use the device in a real mission, then any exam where he does not use it is an inaccurate reflection of his potential. Perhaps he could only complete a mission with the bracelet. By testing him without the bracelet, he wouldn't be sent on a mission he could have accomplished.

It was chunin exams. Let them get their basics right, first. If nin tools were allowed for everyone and all of them used it where would have been Boruto? So it was not reflecting his real potential.

 

[Sagebee]

It was chunin exams. Let them get their basics right, first. If nin tools were allowed for everyone and all of them used it where would have been Boruto? So it was not reflecting his real potential.

Agree it's clearly shown that borutos abilities were stunted because he decided to take short cuts instead of actually developing himself

 

[Warlocks]

unlike naruto boruto broke the exam rules

but i didn't like naruto using it too

 

[The Necromancer]

It was chunin exams. Let them get their basics right, first. If nin tools were allowed for everyone and all of them used it where would have been Boruto? So it was not reflecting his real potential.

Simply being qualified for the Chunin exams already demonstrates a mastery of the basics. That's the entire point.

Chunin isn't another training rank, it's the ability to go into active duty. The exam is a test to determine if that shinobi is ready to take on real missions of real importance, so my point still stands.

 

[Avani]

Simply being qualified for the Chunin exams already demonstrates a mastery of the basics. That's the entire point.

Chunin isn't another training rank, it's the ability to go into active duty. The exam is a test to determine if that shinobi is ready to take on real missions of real importance, so my point still stands.

Even genins go on active duty. Zaabuza arc.

It's a "test". So one has to show his performance within the rules of the test and no one was allowed to use the modified tools like Bortuo used but basic nin tools only. It's purpose is to demonstrate certain skills. So they can rule out the one they don't want to test there. It's really that simple.

If it was that realistic no one would have interfered to save Hinata or Lee.

Around here we re not allowed to use calculators in exams. You give SAT in USA- I hear it allows basic calculators but are you allowed to use tablets/laptos for that? Regardless of your answer when you are participating in a tournament or test despite the risks, you still have to follow rules given in it. If you use something that was not allowed and prohibited to other participants, it's cheating. There is no way around it.

 

[The Necromancer]

Even genins go on active duty. Zaabuza arc.

It's a "test". So one has to show his performance within the rules of the test and no one was allowed to use the modified tools like Bortuo used but basic nin tools only. It's really that simple.

Around here we re not allowed to use calculators in exams. You give SAT in USA- I hear it allows basic calculators but are you allowed to use tab for that? Regardless of your answer when you are participating in a tournament or test regardless of the risks, you still have to follow rules given in it. If you use something that was not allowed and prohibited to other participants, it's cheating. There is no way around it.

Genin are under the command of a Jonin teacher. Chuunin have independence.

The entire point of this debate is to determine if the rules of the exam were stupid or not. Stating the rules exactly as they were written cannot be a defense for the rules as they were written.

Same as above.

 

[Sagebee]

Genin are under the command of a Jonin teacher. Chuunin have independence.

The entire point of this debate is to determine if the rules of the exam were stupid or not. Stating the rules exactly as they were written cannot be a defense for the rules as they were written.

Same as above.

For chunin exams it makes sense because it was allowed it would stunt their growth and people rely on that than actually training

If kote device was like a gun and made ninjutsu pointless than it would be understandable allowing it but if your a well trained ninja you can beat a kote user and that's the point

 

[The Necromancer]

For chunin exams it makes sense because it was allowed it would stunt their growth and people rely on that than actually training

If kote device was like a gun and made ninjutsu pointless than it would be understandable allowing it but if your a well trained ninja you can beat a kote user and that's the point

The only difference between a Kote user and a real Shinobi is chakra usage. Yes, a real Shinobi can beat a device user, but he still has to be more skilled.

Device-using Madara vs Regular Madara still comes out as a tie until Regular Madara runs out of chakra, because the jutsu is exactly the same, and the usage/experience is exactly the same.

If Boruto could use a Tailed Beast Bomb with the device, do you really think any other Genin could defeat him simply because his jutsu wasn't "real?"

 

[Avani]

Genin are under the command of a Jonin teacher. Chuunin have independence.

The entire point of this debate is to determine if the rules of the exam were stupid or not. Stating the rules exactly as they were written cannot be a defense for the rules as they were written.

Same as above.

Suit yourself but it's really just your opinion versus the opinion of the contest holders and what kind of aptitude they are looking for.

IMO Using modified tools like that would be a competition between the scientists from each countries working on those gadgets. The genin participants will be little more than jockeys in the race course. There maybe good or bad jockeys and they matter but that bet would be made primarily on horses not them. It's not the same thing.

 

[The Necromancer]

Suit yourself but it's really just your opinion versus the opinion of the contest holders and what kind of aptitude they are looking for.

IMO Using modified tools like would be a competition between the scientists fro each countries working on those gadgets. The genin participants will be little more than jockeys in the race course. There maybe good or bad jockeys and they matter but that bet would be made primarily on horses not them.

Ok, this isn't an exam for fun, or as a competition. This is a test to see if children are ready to fight and die to protect their friends and family in death matches.

The only rule is kill or be killed. If increasing levels of scientific innovation is what helps keep children alive, you bet your ass that's what it will come down to, as it should.

Do puppets count as science? How about Dosu and Zaku's literal science-based jutsus? I don't recall those being removed. If Sasori came in with his scrolls of Flamethrower, would he be removed for cheating? Does Sasori's power level against Chiyo and Sakura not count because he used such devices.

 

[Sagebee]

The only difference between a Kote user and a real Shinobi is chakra usage. Yes, a real Shinobi can beat a device user, but he still has to be more skilled.

Device-using Madara vs Regular Madara still comes out as a tie until Regular Madara runs out of chakra, because the jutsu is exactly the same, and the usage/experience is exactly the same.

If Boruto could use a Tailed Beast Bomb with the device, do you really think any other Genin could defeat him simply because his jutsu wasn't "real?"

Boruto was clearly inferior ninja at the exams because of his lack of training, if it was allowed for all remind to use it then it would be a contest who could best use the kote device and not whose the best ninja