How strong would MS Sasuke with his Curse Mark be?

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If Sasuke hadn't lost his Curse Mark against Itachi, how strong would he be? Say, for the sake of discussion that this MS is also brand new and has access to V4 Susanoo, Amaterasu, Enton and all that good stuff. Who is the strongest character this Sasuke could beat? Personally, I think he'd be strong enough to give KCM Naruto a run for his money, but probably wouldn't win a one on one fight.

And while at it, in a more or less unrelated note, how much would the Curse Mark have changed his fights with Killer B and the Gokage?
 
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little bit stronger than he was during MS stage

suppresing Orochimaru will be major backlash
 

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Cause like blaze said, he still has to suppress oro, and that would be harder expending his chakra doing ms techs

Well, what if we ignore the part about suppressing Orochimaru and talk about sheer power itself?
 

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Ms sasuke is already on kcm naruto level, even naruto himself establish that. And kakashi removed CM from Sasuke because it did more harm to his body then good. A temporary recovery rate that consumes almost all of your chakra while putting strain on it is not a good combo with mangekyo eyes that have techniques that but strain on the body as well.
 

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Actually I think he would be weaker, and maybe that's why Itachi felt the need to free him. MS is something that drains a lot of chakra, specially first users (Sasuke), it would hurt his body much more than it already did at the 5 Kage summit.
 

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Sasuke definitely needs chakra boosts so I would say it would provide considerable help
 

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So you don't think its much of a difference? Why is that?

MS is superior to CS in every field.SO CS senjutsu will just be a non major buff.and finally he will need to constantly supress oro

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Well, what if we ignore the part about suppressing Orochimaru and talk about sheer power itself?

Sheer power he'd be more versatile than ems sauce(imo) he'd have enton and v2(?) susanoo along with all his curse mark powers and would be able to use senjutsu attacks without juugo around. Hed be able fly too. The only thing that would put ems sauce above him would be ps and non blindness. Like I said though I think an ms cm sauce could take a ems sauce in a fight
 

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Ms sasuke is already on kcm naruto level, even naruto himself establish that. And kakashi removed CM from Sasuke because it did more harm to his body then good. A temporary recovery rate that consumes almost all of your chakra while putting strain on it is not a good combo with mangekyo eyes that have techniques that but strain on the body as well.

Wait, when did that happen? Naruto stated he needed Kurama's help to fight Sasuke, sure, but that's not a reliable source since he had no idea of the extent of KCM's power at the time.
 

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Ms sasuke is already on kcm naruto level, even naruto himself establish that. And kakashi removed CM from Sasuke because it did more harm to his body then good. A temporary recovery rate that consumes almost all of your chakra while putting strain on it is not a good combo with mangekyo eyes that have techniques that but strain on the body as well.

variaboss at it again :kd:
 

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Curse Mark was only meant to be a stop-gap power-up, by the time he awakened MS his chakra was on another level. Itachi went out of his way to remove that fodder version of Senjutsu because he knew it was holding Sasuke back.

His chakra is more potent than Naruto's Six Path Senjutsu and anything below RSM won't make it stronger.
 

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Curse Mark was only meant to be a stop-gap power-up, by the time he awakened MS his chakra was on another level. Itachi went out of his way to remove that fodder version of Senjutsu because he knew it was holding Sasuke back.

His chakra is more potent than Naruto's Six Path Senjutsu and anything below RSM won't make it stronger.
I was gonna ask something, but I'm finding it hard to take your opinion seriously after that second part...I mean...c'mon...
 

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Curse Mark was only meant to be a stop-gap power-up, by the time he awakened MS his chakra was on another level. Itachi went out of his way to remove that fodder version of Senjutsu because he knew it was holding Sasuke back.

His chakra is more potent than Naruto's Six Path Senjutsu and anything below RSM won't make it stronger.

Seriously do you believe these things you write??
Sasuke's chakra is more potent than Naruto's Rikudo Senjutsu chakra???
seriously pass the weed..
 

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I was gonna ask something, but I'm finding it hard to take your opinion seriously after that second part...I mean...c'mon...

The entire Indra/Ashura theme has been potent chakra vs. large chakra reserves


Hagoromo outright stated Indra inherited his strong chakra genes
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Without a Rinnegan Indra's chakra was strong enough to equal RSM
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Naruto always needed large amounts of chakra to match Sasuke's chakra potency, he needs RSM which is the chakra of 9 bijuu to match the potency of Sasuke's chakra as a Rinnegan user.
 

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Curse Mark only gives them access to reserves they don't normally have and boost physical capabilities -and among other things - but the drawbacks are more severe like Orochimaru influence and feeding on your chakra.


Anyway, I think Curse Mark would hold Sasuke back.
 
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Seriously do you believe these things you write??
Sasuke's chakra is more potent than Naruto's Rikudo Senjutsu chakra???
seriously pass the weed..

Have you ever read the manga ? Indra always had the strongest chakra while Ashura had the largest chakra reserves.

Naruto needs RSM to match Sasuke's chakra, in other words he needs the chakra of 9 bijuu. And as I said before the only thing that can make Sasuke's chakra stronger is RSM, anything else won't do anything because there's nothing else that can match having Indra and Hagoromo's chakra combined.


When he used bijuu Susanoo his chakra reserves got enhanced not his chakra potency, only RSM can make it stronger.
 
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Wait, when did that happen? Naruto stated he needed Kurama's help to fight Sasuke, sure, but that's not a reliable source since he had no idea of the extent of KCM's power at the time.

That's a reason why Sasuke would be at his level. Kcm naruto only receives a portion of the kyuubi's chakra but naruto implied the whole kyuubi. If Sasuke didn't have Susanoo at the time then I would give it to kcm naruto.
variaboss at it again :kd:
And the stupid alt continues.
 
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