Black Jesus and Ancient Egypt Denial

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The bible gives a brief description of what Jesus looks like in Revelations
 

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I think you quoted the wrong post.
I don't quote wrong posts

This all however is completely different than a black Jesus as he really was not black and the same thing applies to ancient Egyptians. Modern day Egyptians will not look identical to them, but by no means you could ever describe them as being black.

I agreed the not being "black Jesus"

Meanwhile I was correcting you on the "it applies to ANCIENT Egyptians". Because the Nubians are the founding fathers of the Great Egypt and are the black, completely Dark skinned Nubians. Then it was later defeated and conquered etc. by Assyrians then by Greeks then by Arabic's etc.
 

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Is using the term European for anyone coming from that continent ignorant? India is a country in INDIAN sub-continent. It is an ethnic group with many subgroups of it's own. There are certain basic common cultural traditions, beliefs, shared history and experiences etc factors that are common in most of India regardless of the state and all have contributed to the identity of India. ( Many of these elements can still be traced in Pakistan and Bangladesh even, despite them being broken off and increasing influence by middle eastern countries since independence).

It's not same as lumping people who have had not an iota of connection with each other just on the skin deep reasoning, that's going on here to justify the use of word black as one big ethnic group.


The reason I refrain from using the word Indian, there are Genghis Khan and company's descendants in the subcontinent who look nothing like the normal Hindu and look Chinese etc. Most are filled in Nepal... Jarawa, Sentinelese are examples as well who don't fit the description people associate with "Indian"

Meanwhile evolving in Europe results you in changing nothing except the skin, hair and eye colour :sdo: So I can freely use the word European since not much facial construction changes are present only "colour' and size changes as you go along in Europe.

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A black albino with straitened hair is indistinguishable from a European, I can't say the same about an "Indian", "Far Eastern Asian" etc.. since facial features will be a give away


The same cant be said about Real Americans, they're all almost the same in looking since only a "small group" of people passed the Russian and Alaskan connection during ice age so not much has changed.
 

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The reason I refrain from using the word Indian, there are Genghis Khan and company's descendants in the subcontinent who look nothing like the normal Hindu and look Chinese etc. Most are filled in Nepal... Jarawa, Sentinelese are examples as well who don't fit the description people associate with "Indian"

Meanwhile evolving in Europe results you in changing nothing except the skin, hair and eye colour :sdo: So I can freely use the word European since not much facial construction changes are present only "colour' and size changes as you go along in Europe.

e.g
A black albino with straitened hair is indistinguishable from a European, I can't say the same about an "Indian", "Far Eastern Asian" etc.. since facial features will be a give away


The same cant be said about Real Americans, they're all almost the same in looking since only a "small group" of people passed the Russian and Alaskan connection during ice age so not much has changed.

wait !!!....
 

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The reason I refrain from using the word Indian, there are Genghis Khan and company's descendants in the subcontinent who look nothing like the normal Hindu and look Chinese etc. Most are filled in Nepal... Jarawa, Sentinelese are examples as well who don't fit the description people associate with "Indian"

Meanwhile evolving in Europe results you in changing nothing except the skin, hair and eye colour :sdo: So I can freely use the word European since not much facial construction changes are present only "colour' and size changes as you go along in Europe.

e.g
A black albino with straitened hair is indistinguishable from a European, I can't say the same about an "Indian", "Far Eastern Asian" etc.. since facial features will be a give away


The same cant be said about Real Americans, they're all almost the same in looking since only a "small group" of people passed the Russian and Alaskan connection during ice age so not much has changed.

Nothing is worse than half understanding of the subject and still insisting on keep on posting and arguing.
 

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Nothing is worse than half understanding of the subject and still insisting on keep on posting and arguing.

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Act like I never replied, I know your worst and I am not ready for it right now...
 

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look we are 3 visible members and there's a 4th green limbo..i can see teh limbos clearly it with my eyes..

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rather then that what's teh OP's point plz? i wanna discuss too!!

Summary: OP uses bible as reference to Jesus being black meanwhile using historical archaeology for him being NOT white :sdo:(which is incoherent in someway)...
Then he points to the belief of white Egyptians like on many current movies :sdo:
 

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Summary: OP uses bible as reference to Jesus being black meanwhile using historical archaeology for him being NOT white :sdo:(which is incoherent in someway)...
Then he points to the belief of white Egyptians like on many current movies :sdo:

if jesus is black then god is black too?
 

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Act like I never replied, I know your worst and I am not ready for it right now...

I plan to. However you need to stay on topic and not derail discussions. It would be also advisable that you stop making personal comments about me /other users. No you don't know me or anyone here, let alone the worst and best of us.
 
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I plan to. However your opinion on what a "Hindu" supposed to look like, is of least consequence in this thread. You need to stay on topic and not derail discussions. It would be also advisable that you stop making personal comments about me other users. No you don't know me or anyone here, let alone the worst and best of us.
Yes MA'AM :|
 
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im pretty sure he is being logic..al

A logical person would never try to define a population of a country this big as India on the basis of facial features or skin colour. Till less than 100 years ago, the Western border touched Afghanistan and Eastern Myanmar, Northern China and southern neighbour is SriLanka. Facial features and skin colour don't suddenly change because of political demarcation. Similarly Andaman tribes make a total of less than 1000 people in a population over 1.2 billion and still are unique to India. I cannot count a Punjabi Hindu or Indian out, nor one from Manipur or Assam just because it confuses your friends' idea of what an ideal Hindu or Indian should look like. All of them have been here and contribute to the culture for thousands of years. We never made that division based on skin colour and we are not starting now.
 
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A logical person would never try to define a population of a country this big as India on the basis of facial features or skin colour. Till less than 100 years ago, the Western border touched Afghanistan and Eastern Myanmar, Northern China and southern neighbour is SriLanka. Facial features and skin colour doesn't suddenly change because of political demarcation. I cannot count a Punjabi Hindu out, nor one from Manipur or Assam just because it confuses your friends' idea of what an ideal Hindu should look like. We never made that division based on skin colour and we are not starting now.

look just one advice for you : do never give $hit or get interested in politics...it's a poison they want u to drink...
 

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He was Middle Eastern, looked like a Jew/Arab most likely, I mean he was a Jew afterall. That being said, there are some Middle Easterners that also look black at the same time, and I don't mean actual black Middle Easterners, kind of an in between.

He did not look like the way white people portrayed him though, they just want their God to look like them. In my opinion, attributing some other dude's looks to Jesus is really f*cked up. Christians should really drop that image of him, they don't really need it anyways.

Saying that Jews aren't a race is not accurate, as Jews and Arabs are also an ethnicity. You could even look at a guy and take a guess as to whether or not he is Jewish or Arab.

OP, you want him to be black just as White supremacists want him to be white, for your own people.

Honestly, there is no proper way of telling his race but that shouldn't matter anyways. Also, what do you mean Middle Easterners didn't exist, Jews and Arabs have had a long history there, I believe there were black Jewish tribes however but they may have been a minority.

Also, Egypt wasn't entirely black, it was diverse, Greece has even ruled it for a while but that being said, there were many black pharaohs to my understanding.

A logical person would never try to define a population of a country this big as India on the basis of facial features or skin colour. Till less than 100 years ago, the Western border touched Afghanistan and Eastern Myanmar, Northern China and southern neighbour is SriLanka. Facial features and skin colour don't suddenly change because of political demarcation. Similarly Andaman tribes make a total of less than 1000 people in a population over 1.2 billion and still are unique to India. I cannot count a Punjabi Hindu or Indian out, nor one from Manipur or Assam just because it confuses your friends' idea of what an ideal Hindu or Indian should look like. All of them have been here and contribute to the culture for thousands of years. We never made that division based on skin colour and we are not starting now.
To my understanding, he was referring to what people think Hindus look like, even using quotations around Indian because it's hard to define India.


The reason I refrain from using the word Indian, there are Genghis Khan and company's descendants in the subcontinent who look nothing like the normal Hindu and look Chinese etc. Most are filled in Nepal... Jarawa, Sentinelese are examples as well who don't fit the description people associate with "Indian"

Meanwhile evolving in Europe results you in changing nothing except the skin, hair and eye colour :sdo: So I can freely use the word European since not much facial construction changes are present only "colour' and size changes as you go along in Europe.

e.g
A black albino with straitened hair is indistinguishable from a European, I can't say the same about an "Indian", "Far Eastern Asian" etc.. since facial features will be a give away


The same cant be said about Real Americans, they're all almost the same in looking since only a "small group" of people passed the Russian and Alaskan connection during ice age so not much has changed.
Black Albinos don't look European and are distinguishable. Also, I've seen a full blown Pakistani albino that looks straight European. For Indians, I think it depends but I wouldn't say black albinos are indistinguishable, far from it, imo. Black people and white people have different facial features.
 
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yeah, probably he was not white, and who deny it is ignorant.
 

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jesus was black

ancient Egyptians were too

Explains the hate and jealous modern whites have against them.
 

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OP, you want him to be black just as White supremacists want him to be white, for your own people.


Honestly, there is no proper way of telling his race but that shouldn't matter anyways. Also, what do you mean Middle Easterners didn't exist, Jews and Arabs have had a long history there, I believe there were black Jewish tribes however but they may have been a minority.

Also, Egypt wasn't entirely black, it was diverse, Greece has even ruled it for a while but that being said, there were many black pharaohs to my understanding.


To my understanding, he was referring to what people think Hindus look like, even using quotations around Indian because it's hard to define India.



Black Albinos don't look European and are distinguishable. Also, I've seen a full blown Pakistani albino that looks straight European. For Indians, I think it depends but I wouldn't say black albinos are indistinguishable, far from it, imo. Black people and white people have different facial features.


Not again.. I completely agree with your post but the part when you addressed to me.

When I talk about Indian ethnicity I'm referring to "the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition". Expecting all "Hindus" to look the same will be idiotic, let alone all Indians even without the invaders, refugees or migrant population. India is a large enough country with a very varied climatic conditions from one place to another and that's bound to leave it's effects on the body, food habits etc.

He even counted Nepal as if it was part of India and then declared Genghis Khan and family filling it up. He keeps dragging in Jarwas over and over who are less than 400 in number in a population of over 1.2 billion and limited to an isolated island (out of their choice today). In fewer words- he uses a few random facts and then combines them to make a leap of logic ignoring several other factors and reach a wrong conclusion or to put up a pointless argument.

Only relevancy of that whole argument and rest of the conclusion of this thread is that basing ethnicity on the colour of skin only, doesn't work because you have a very good chance of getting it wrong. It maybe one of the factors in many situations, but as a sole factor it's inconclusive. If he meant only that much then his reply to me was on cross purpose and he should be more to the point, concise and clear.
 
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