Black Jesus and Ancient Egypt Denial

[LoZelda101]

He was Jewish. He probably looked Jewish.

lmao.

 

[Caliburn]

Why do people deny Jesus Christ being black assuming he was a real person??? And why do people say Ancient Egyptians were not black then use Modern Egypt as proof??

They say the color of Jesus doesn't matter but still protray him as white. Fox news and youtube users.

What do people get out of this? Rewriting history..

Your thoughts....

You know it are threads like these that automatically make me wary of certain people and if I see them creating topics of this nature repetitively, I will not hesitate to remove them from this section as either you are attempting to troll or you are clearly not suited to hold discussions like these and that is problematic as you could cause severe arguments for no reason whatsoever.

There might be people who resent the idea that Jesus didn't look exactly like how he is most commonly portrayed. Jesus was a Jew who lived in what is now Israel and Palestine, so most likely his looks wouldn't have been much different than the other people who lived there, meaning he would have had a slightly darker skin than an average European. However that and being black are so far apart it makes me wonder if you even understand what the word "black" means. The Eastern Mediterranean has always had strong connections with the European continent, in particular with Greece, long before Jesus was even born. So in the end it might be uncomfortable for some people to accept that Jesus didn't look exactly as they expected him to be, however he wouldn't have been that drastically different either. He could have possibly blend in in ancient Greece or Southern Italy.

This all however is completely different than a black Jesus as he really was not black and the same thing applies to ancient Egyptians. Modern day Egyptians will not look identical to them, but by no means you could ever describe them as being black.

Lastly rewriting history and what you are talking about are not even remotely the same thing. Apparently you are under the impression that people had cameras 2000 years ago to take pictures and could easily mass spread those pictures and that then someone said "oh, I don't like the way he looks, I'm going to change it". Obviously this was not the case, so when people wanted to create an image of Jesus, they pretty much portrayed him in a way that was the most comfortable and familiar to them. Many traditional representations; like God, saints etc.; even predate Christianity. This by no means is "rewriting history", in fact this does not even have anything to do with writing history or historical research at all. When someone today would make a drawing of a deceased person, however he draws it a bit different because it's going to be used for a commercial, an exposition or something else, is he rewriting history? No. That drawing was made for a specific purpose in mind. It's however possible that that drawing would become so popular that it automatically started to represent that person. That's not rewriting history as it was not made with the intention of "this is how he should look like" and it's the same thing with how Jesus was represented visually. People didn't make representations of Jesus to be historically accurate, they made them because they wanted to be closer to him, so that they could look at him etc.

Seriously.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

Won't it be better to talk about his teachings instead of trying to find what was his skin color and create controversies ?

 

[Loki d]

He was Jewish. He probably looked Jewish.

Jewish isn't a race...it's a religious group of people.

Honestly who gives a **** he was gods son so he would have the power to change his skin color only a racist would be doing what your doing

I doubt he had any powers and how does this make me racist? Literally stupid.

Honestly he would've be Middle Eastern I thought. But shit Idk tbh so

Middle East didn't exist...most of those people would be what you call Black...most of them are Black.

Exactly he would be middle eastern, why would he be black? And what does Ancient Egypt have to do with anything? And from a religious perspective I'm sure he could take on any form people want him to be.

Middle Eastern isn't a race. Also this was supposedly 2,000 years ago. 1,000 years ago Americans were not white. I don't believe in such bullshit.

He's neither white or black.
But who really cares. Pretty much all races portrayed Juses in their own way.

There's even a Chinese Juses.

He was most likely black aka dark skinned. But I agree people see Jesus in their own way while media and white supremacy portrays him white.

 

[Decimator]

Why would Jesus have been black?

revelation 1:14

"The hair on his head was white a wool, and his feet were define brass"

That defines a black person

Egypt was not the only ancient civilization in africa

"The Axium Empire"

"The Kush dynasty"

"Great Zimbabwe"

"Timbuktu" ect...

Jewish isn't a race...it's a religious group of people.

I doubt he had any powers and how does this make me racist? Literally stupid.

Middle East didn't exist...most of those people would be what you call Black...most of them are Black.


Middle Eastern isn't a race. Also this was supposedly 2,000 years ago. 1,000 years ago Americans were not white. I don't believe in such bullshit.


He was most likely black aka dark skinned. But I agree people see Jesus in their own way while media and white supremacy portrays him white.

Jesus was black. Proof?

Q1. Who was Jesus?

Answer: An Israelite

Q2: From which tribe?

Answer: The Lion of Juddah

Q3: What did the Judahites look like?

Answer: Revelation 1:14 "The hair on his head was white as wool and his feat (man bowing down to Jesus) were define brass"

Won't it be better to talk about his teachings instead of trying to find what was his skin color and create controversies ?

The teachings of christ have been misconstrued through out the new testaments of the bible.

In king james it tells you that god hated esau

The descendants of Esau were edomites.

 

[Loki d]

You know it are threads like these that automatically make me wary of certain people and if I see them creating topics of this nature repetitively, I will not hesitate to remove them from this section as either you are attempting to troll or you are clearly not suited to hold discussions like these and that is problematic as you could cause severe arguments for no reason whatsoever.

Triggered!!! Did I offend you because clearly you feel some type of way....

There might be people who resent the idea that Jesus didn't look exactly like how he is most commonly portrayed. Jesus was a Jew who lived in what is now Israel and Palestine, so most likely his looks wouldn't have been much different than the other people who lived there, meaning he would have had a slightly darker skin than an average European. However that and being black are so far apart it makes me wonder if you even understand what the word "black" means. The Eastern Mediterranean has always had strong connections with the European continent, in particular with Greece, long before Jesus was even born. So in the end it might be uncomfortable for some people to accept that Jesus didn't look exactly as they expected him to be, however he wouldn't have been that drastically different either. He could have possibly blend in in ancient Greece or Southern Italy.

Jew isn't a race that's like saying Blacks can't be muslims ever heard of Malcolm X. Jews and Muslims are a group of religious people. You people sound more ignorant than Trump. I always wondered if his claims applied to Black Muslims. Modern Israel and Palestine is not the same as Ancient Israel and Palestine just like how Modern North America is different from North America before Colombus appeared. So yeah he would have been much different than an average European.

I doubt you even understand what being black means. There are different shades of black. If ancient greece or southern Italy had black people then yeah.

This all however is completely different than a black Jesus as he really was not black and the same thing applies to ancient Egyptians. Modern day Egyptians will not look identical to them, but by no means you could ever describe them as being black.

Did you really just say Ancient Egyptians were not black? You can describe Modern Egypt as looking black because some of them are still there obviously things change over time so there are less natives there and it has become a bi-racial society.

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Lastly rewriting history and what you are talking about are not even remotely the same thing. Apparently you are under the impression that people had cameras 2000 years ago to take pictures and could easily mass spread those pictures and that then someone said "oh, I don't like the way he looks, I'm going to change it". Obviously this was not the case, so when people wanted to create an image of Jesus, they pretty much portrayed him in a way that was the most comfortable and familiar to them. Many traditional representations; like God, saints etc.; even predate Christianity. This by no means is "rewriting history", in fact this does not even have anything to do with writing history or historical research at all. When someone today would make a drawing of a deceased person, however he draws it a bit different because it's going to be used for a commercial, an exposition or something else, is he rewriting history? No. That drawing was made for a specific purpose in mind. It's however possible that that drawing would become so popular that it automatically started to represent that person. That's not rewriting history as it was not made with the intention of "this is how he should look like" and it's the same thing with how Jesus was represented visually. People didn't make representations of Jesus to be historically accurate, they made them because they wanted to be closer to him, so that they could look at him etc. Seriously.

You're confusing modern standards and morality with the past standards and morality. Your whole post you assume the past is like the present. You assumed Ancient Egypt is like Modern Egypt. You keep assuming and making comparison with the past and present. When the past and present contrast more than anything.

Rewriting History was merely a suggestion or me questioning the motives..

Don't sugarcoat things...if he was black he was black gawd..

 

[Decimator]

This all however is completely different than a black Jesus as he really was not black

lol then please explain Revelations 1:14 & 1:15 from King james to me please.

Honestly he would've be Middle Eastern I thought. But shit Idk tbh so

Read Revelations 1:15 and you will know. Just because he was an Israelite does NOT mean he was middle eastern.

You're confusing modern standards and morality with the past standards and morality. Your whole post you assume the past is like the present. You assumed Ancient Egypt is like Modern Egypt. You keep assuming and making comparison with the past and present. When the past and present contrast more than anything.

Don't sugarcoat things...if he was black he was black gawd..

I don't know why people even have this argument. it started as an indigenous black civilization after the persians, greek incursion became a melting pot before the arabics settled. "Ramesses iii was the second Pharaoh of the Twentieth Dynasty and is considered to be the last New Kingdom king to wield any substantial authority over Egypt." Ramesses was clearly a black man.

But I digress. I could care less about Egypt knowing that the other African empires were just as notable in the end. Kush empire solos

He was Jewish. He probably looked Jewish.

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He was Jewish. He probably looked Jewish.

...lol

Exactly he would be middle eastern, why would he be black? And what does Ancient Egypt have to do with anything? And from a religious perspective I'm sure he could take on any form people want him to be.

In the bible it clearly states that Jesus came from the lion of Judah. Revelations 1:14 clearly states that he was a black man, and it wasn't only that.

Have you heard the story of Esau & Jake? If so, what did Jacob look like?

There's no "assuming" here. He existed as a Jew in a Jewish community which wasn't black.

He didn't exist in the jewish community. He existed as an Israelite, which who were dark skinned

He's neither white or black.
But who really cares. Pretty much all races portrayed Juses in their own way.

There's even a Chinese Juses.

Again, go read king James bible

God damn, I just solo'd everybody in this thread...too easy. Shuma's back baby

 

[Loki d]

I don't know why people even have this argument. it started as an indigenous black civilization after the persians, greek incursion became a melting pot before the arabics settled. "Ramesses iii was the second Pharaoh of the Twentieth Dynasty and is considered to be the last New Kingdom king to wield any substantial authority over Egypt." Ramesses was clearly a black man.

But I digress. I could care less about Egypt knowing that the other African empires were just as notable in the end. Kush empire solos

I know there are literally around 400 pyramids in Africa...yet Ancient Egypt was not a black civilization. I know there were many great empires.

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[Decimator]

I know there are literally around 400 pyramids in Africa...yet Ancient Egypt was not a black civilization. I know there were many great empires.

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Also: Revelation 1:14-15

" The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. "

Romans 9:13

" Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated "

and who were the descendants of Esau? Lol i'm not trying to sound racist or hateful but this all was pronounced in the bible. The descendants of Esau were the so called "white people".


But i'm about to forget all this bible stuff and go back to playing video games and music. Honestly not worth your time debating with people on the internet. Your opinions won't matter rather they are true or false. That's for everyone

Revelation 1:14-15

14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters.

Romans 9:13 ►

Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

Esau-edomites (Caucasian)

Not trying to sound like i'm spreading hate speech but all this was pronounced in the bible lol. Don't hate me

 

[HashiraMadara]

You know it are threads like these that automatically make me wary of certain people and if I see them creating topics of this nature repetitively, I will not hesitate to remove them from this section as either you are attempting to troll or you are clearly not suited to hold discussions like these and that is problematic as you could cause severe arguments for no reason whatsoever.

There might be people who resent the idea that Jesus didn't look exactly like how he is most commonly portrayed. Jesus was a Jew who lived in what is now Israel and Palestine, so most likely his looks wouldn't have been much different than the other people who lived there, meaning he would have had a slightly darker skin than an average European. However that and being black are so far apart it makes me wonder if you even understand what the word "black" means. The Eastern Mediterranean has always had strong connections with the European continent, in particular with Greece, long before Jesus was even born. So in the end it might be uncomfortable for some people to accept that Jesus didn't look exactly as they expected him to be, however he wouldn't have been that drastically different either. He could have possibly blend in in ancient Greece or Southern Italy.

This all however is completely different than a black Jesus as he really was not black and the same thing applies to ancient Egyptians. Modern day Egyptians will not look identical to them, but by no means you could ever describe them as being black.

Lastly rewriting history and what you are talking about are not even remotely the same thing. Apparently you are under the impression that people had cameras 2000 years ago to take pictures and could easily mass spread those pictures and that then someone said "oh, I don't like the way he looks, I'm going to change it". Obviously this was not the case, so when people wanted to create an image of Jesus, they pretty much portrayed him in a way that was the most comfortable and familiar to them. Many traditional representations; like God, saints etc.; even predate Christianity. This by no means is "rewriting history", in fact this does not even have anything to do with writing history or historical research at all. When someone today would make a drawing of a deceased person, however he draws it a bit different because it's going to be used for a commercial, an exposition or something else, is he rewriting history? No. That drawing was made for a specific purpose in mind. It's however possible that that drawing would become so popular that it automatically started to represent that person. That's not rewriting history as it was not made with the intention of "this is how he should look like" and it's the same thing with how Jesus was represented visually. People didn't make representations of Jesus to be historically accurate, they made them because they wanted to be closer to him, so that they could look at him etc.

Seriously.

There is no way a Jesus can be black, it is logically impossible. The brass verse might be implying "shining" qualities instead of "colour" qualities

OTOH: Nubians are direct descendants of ancient Egyptians kings and are blacker than me. :sdo: So it makes more sense for them to be black than not. But since they mixed with many middle eastern migrants, possible inbreeding was possible to produce the "The REDS"...

Later Kings on the other hand are a controversy, like Tutankhamen's DNA being a discussion to this day

 

[Chikombo]

I guess he should be depicted as black then.

 

[YowYan]

Reminded me of this quote:

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Not that I care for Jezus' his skin color. The messasge is what matters, the rest is talk for sheep.

 

[Callypigia]

Jewish isn't a race...it's a religious group of people.

No kidding. Really? Jewish is also an ethnicity, and you can clearly discern physical attributes associated with different ethnic groups. Have you ever heard someone say, "blonde hair, blues eyes...must be German?" German isn't a race either.

 

[HashiraMadara]

No kidding. Really? Jewish is also an ethnicity, and you can clearly discern physical attributes associated with different ethnic groups. Have you ever heard someone say, "blonde hair, blues eyes...must be German?" German isn't a race either.

Well many people bleed with ignorance around the word:
Black People
Masai Sudan: (has the tallest/thinnest people in the world averagely)

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Congolese Pygmy: (shortest people averagely)

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Bantu: (coined the "everywhere and everything" tribe( Will smith,Nelson Mandela, Idris Elba, Me, Ali etc.. this is the most populous/varied black tribe in the world. It's found in Africa, America(slaves) even Europe and Asia.) It is the original barer of the word Negro..

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Indians/Lankans etc. (Indians, sri lankans etc. that are black in skin)

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Jarawa and the rest of Andaman Negroes(found in India and abroad)

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These are just few completely different ethnicities given the word "black", and even the most educated scientist are caught bearing ignorance to this.

 

[Avani]

These are just few completely different ethnicities given the word "black", and even the most educated scientist are caught bearing ignorance to this. [/B][/COLOR]

That simply means that the term 'Black' is an incorrect word to refer to them all and the word shouldn't be used so liberally if at all.

 

[demon of the leaf]

Jewish isn't a race...it's a religious group of people.

I doubt he had any powers and how does this make me racist? Literally stupid.

Middle East didn't exist...most of those people would be what you call Black...most of them are Black.


Middle Eastern isn't a race. Also this was supposedly 2,000 years ago. 1,000 years ago Americans were not white. I don't believe in such bullshit.


He was most likely black aka dark skinned. But I agree people see Jesus in their own way while media and white supremacy portrays him white.

Ether way he is the lord wether he is black or white or pygmy or blue the fact you care about his color means you really dont care about the lord mot for what he did but his skin color

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Caliburn is right though. Jesus is Jewish after all. His skin tone could either be fair, red-faced, or brown. I'd have to pick fair skinned.

 

[Loki d]

That simply means that the term 'Black' is an incorrect word to refer to them all and the word shouldn't be used so liberally if at all.

Black is the correct term..the incorrect term would "Afro" considering not all black people have Afro heritage like the Melanesian people that are Black with blonde hair. These people are black but not African.

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Ether way he is the lord wether he is black or white or pygmy or blue the fact you care about his color means you really dont care about the lord mot for what he did but his skin color

What makes you think I care about his actions? I don't even know if his existence is fact. Don't try to point the finger at me for questioning his mainstream inaccurate portrayal.

 

[Avani]

Black is the correct term..the incorrect term would "Afro" considering not all black people have Afro heritage like the Melanesian people that are Black with blonde hair. These people are black but not African.
[/SPOILER]

Yes despite all the ethnic, historical, cultural & political heritage and genetic differences and ID, they should all be lumped in one group called black because you say so.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

The teachings of christ have been misconstrued through out the new testaments of the bible.

In king james it tells you that god hated esau

The descendants of Esau were edomites.

Now who i must blame this for people like you or humanity ?

and it won't be a surprise if someone say in 50-100 years it was misconstrued by a guy named Decimator as Jesus was actually Jew