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Shinju chakra is Six path Senjutsu which is comprised of NE, when Naruto senses the Juubi all he feels is NE
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It isn't, Susanoo is an MS technique and Hagoromo never had a Mengekyo. The manga made it clear that Rinnegan was his dojutsu and not the Sharingan.

can't remember where i read it but what i heard/read that god tree created naruto universe
 

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Shinju chakra is Six path Senjutsu which is comprised of NE, when Naruto senses the Juubi all he feels is NE
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I'm sorry, but I can't see where it says that the Shinju tree is comprised of NE.
 

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I do. I like her fashion and I think her style is creative. Do you disagree?

Hmm, now that I've looked at her again, I think I just don't like her face expression. She could pose a bit better.
 

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Hmm, now that I've looked at her again, I think I just don't like her face expression. She could pose a bit better.

I suppose. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 

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He didn't learn Sage Mode, they were born with Kaguya's chakra which is Six Path Senjutsu. They had Rikudou Sage Mode from birth and didn't need to learn it like Ashura. Filler is inaccurate and not canon.

Then why wasn't sasuke given rsm
 

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But that scanning is explaining Nature Energy, i don't see it making a direct statement that Shinju Tree was comprised of Nature Energy, or even implying it. The way i'm starting to see it, Nature Energy was always on and apart of earth, and when the Shinju Tree came from the sky and began absorbing energy from the lands, it took in all of the lands Nature Energy, which is why the lands began to die. The tree was not the originator or creator of Nature Energy, but after years of absorbing it and other people, he became infused with Nature Energy.
 

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Then why wasn't sasuke given rsm

Because he isn't one with the bijuus like Naruto. The Juubi is Kaguya so having the chakra of 9 bijuu the equivalent of having the Juubi's chakra which is the equivalent of having Kaguya's chakra. And without Ashura's body he wouldn't be able to be one with the bijuu and NE.
 
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can't remember where i read it but what i heard/read that god tree created naruto universe

It didn't create NV, the god tree comes from outer space and grew after absorbing the blood of fallen shinobi during war times. When Kaguya ate the fruit it gave her Six Path Senjutsu and the manga made if clear Senjutsu is chakra mixed with NE.
 

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Because he isn't one with the bijuus like Naruto. The Juubi is Kaguya so having the chakra of 9 bijuu the equivalent of having the Juubi's chakra which is the equivalent of having Kaguya's chakra. And without Ashura's body he wouldn't be able to be one with the bijuu and NE.

this six path shit is so confusing and vague. so kaguya chakra =/= rikudou chakra?

i thought 4 ways to access rikudou chakra (six path chakra) is.

rinnegan (indra/ashura tran)
juubi
9 bijuus
direct upgrade from the rikudou

if you get rinnegan you can use it's to it's full potential
if it's jink upgrade you can fly, use TSB and use senjutsu
if you already acquired sage mode and is a 9bijuu jink you can access RSM

or is senjutsu and sage mode the samething with the same features? cause i thought sasuke could use senjutsu as well.
 

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It didn't create NV, the god tree comes from outer space and grew after absorbing the blood of fallen shinobi during war times. When Kaguya ate the fruit it gave her Six Path Senjutsu and the manga made if clear Senjutsu is chakra mixed with NE.
Ironically you're using filler information. The god tree took root because of the bloodshed from wars. it didn't come from space like the filler said it did.
 

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this six path shit is so confusing and vague. so kaguya chakra =/= rikudou chakra?

i thought 4 ways to access rikudou chakra (six path chakra) is.

rinnegan (indra/ashura tran)
juubi
9 bijuus
direct upgrade from the rikudou

if you get rinnegan you can use it's to it's full potential
if it's jink upgrade you can fly, use TSB and use senjutsu
if you already acquired sage mode and is a 9bijuu jink you can access RSM

or is senjutsu and sage mode the samething with the same features? cause i thought sasuke could use senjutsu as well.


Kaguya is the Juubi

Juubi chakra = 9 bijuu chakra + NE = Six Path Senjutsu

Kaguya chakra = Juubi chakra + NE = Six Path Senjutsu


Madara and Naruto required the 9 bijuu to produce Six Path Senjutsu because they weren't born with Kaguya's chakra like Hagoromo and Hamura.

In order to produce Six Path Senjutsu the user requires either having Kaguya's chakra or the Juubi's chakra, but having the chakra of 9 bijuu combined with NE is the same as having the Juubi's chakra hence why Naruto was able to unlock RSM.

Hagoromo and Hamura were born with Six Path Senjutsu so they already had NE running through their body and therefore didn't require absorbing NE to produce it.

But because of diluted genes Indra and Ashura weren't born with the same chakra as Hagoromo. Ashura inherited some of the Juubi's chakra from having the Sage's body but required absorbing NE in order to produce Six Path Senjutsu.

In contrast Indra inherited Hagoromo's chakra but without the same amount of NE or the Juubi's influence. Rikudou chakra is basically diluted Six Path Senjutsu, it's Hagoromo's chakra without the same amount of NE and Juubi chakra.

Normally Indra's chakra should be weaker than Ashura's Six Path Senjutsu but because of his genes it still had the same potency as Ashura's chakra. Kishi really messed things up when he introduced RSM.
 

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Ironically you're using filler information. The god tree took root because of the bloodshed from wars. it didn't come from space like the filler said it did.

It's not filler, Momoshiki also had a chakra fruit and Kaguya had knowledge of it before coming to earth so it suggests the origins of the Shinju are in outer space and not on earth.
 

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Kaguya possessed the Juubi's Power, hence why she had Rikudou Senjutsu and Hamura inherited that power through receiving some of Kaguya's Chakra. It's not really complicated at all.
 

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It's not filler, Momoshiki also had a chakra fruit and Kaguya had knowledge of it before coming to earth so it suggests the origins of the Shinju are in outer space and not on earth.
There's no proof that momoshiki had a chakra fruit if he did then he wouldn't have been trying to collect chakra from the bijuu to create a new one. Databook said the otsutsuki came looking for that god tree on earth, how they know this is unknown. The boruto novel did imply the otsutsuki planted it on earth but that's not canon.

The boruto manga is following the novel more than the boruto movie so we might get that info.
 

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There's no proof that momoshiki had a chakra fruit if he did then he wouldn't have been trying to collect chakra from the bijuu to create a new one. Databook said the otsutsuki came looking for that god tree on earth, how they know this is unknown. The boruto novel did imply the otsutsuki planted it on earth but that's not canon.

The boruto manga is following the novel more than the boruto movie so we might get that info.

The fruit is the source of chakra, yet without the Shinju he was able to use chakra and had a Rinnegan how do you think that's possible ?

Whenever he used his jutsu he ate a fruit, there's chakra fruits outside of Earth but Momoshiki wanted the one Kaguya ate because it gave more power.
 

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The fruit is the source of chakra, yet without the Shinju he was able to use chakra and had a Rinnegan how do you think that's possible ?

Whenever he used his jutsu he ate a fruit, there's chakra fruits outside of Earth but Momoshiki wanted the one Kaguya ate because it gave more power.
Who even knows how momoshiki got chakra. Actually it seems he doesn't naturally produce chakra but the pills create chakra for him. Kinshiki too, what did momoshiki share this supposed chakra fruit with him? That's hard to believe.

Those were pills/medicine. Again, there's no proof that chakra fruits are different in power.
 
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