Shino part 1 vs sasuke part 1

[Forbidden Technique]

More than likely, but then Shino also has Insect Clone which as the name concludes is a clone made up of his insects. His insects as both, you and I know have chakra, and the Sharingan cannot detect which is which. If Shino makes x amount of clones, and spreads out then attacks Sasuke it's a done deal.

Chakra eating bugs > Confused Sasuke.

VOTE 1 Sasuke would have little to no issue plowing through any and all clones with Chidori or annihalating them with Katon. And in the unlikely scenerio that he gets swarmed, CM2 should easily allow him to physically overpower the insects similar to how KCM Naruto overpowered Shino's fathers insects IIRC.

They're just both in two different leagues in terms of overall power, man.

 

[Curse Mark]

Can anyone explain to me why they think that the white things in this scan were the bugs? If sharingan sees chakra shouldn't the darker area be the chakra of the swarm?

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[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Can anyone explain to me why they think that the white things in this scan were the bugs? If sharingan sees chakra shouldn't the darker area be the chakra of the swarm?

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If you read the fight. The mist ninjas used mist tech which blocks the sharingan(like with zabuza and kakashi). So their eyesight was blocked. Then the insect jamming blocks "sensing", because all they'd be able to sense is a large mass of chakra around them.

ie, they would not have been able to see anything through the mist, nor sense the alliance(without being sensor types).

 

[unknownvillain1254]

If you read the fight. The mist ninjas used mist tech which blocks the sharingan(like with zabuza and kakashi). So their eyesight was blocked. Then the insect jamming blocks "sensing", because all they'd be able to sense is a large mass of chakra around them.

ie, they would not have been able to see anything through the mist, nor sense the alliance(without being sensor types).

The swarm eat him alive

 

[Curse Mark]

If you read the fight. The mist ninjas used mist tech which blocks the sharingan(like with zabuza and kakashi). So their eyesight was blocked. Then the insect jamming blocks "sensing", because all they'd be able to sense is a large mass of chakra around them.

ie, they would not have been able to see anything through the mist, nor sense the alliance(without being sensor types).

Didn't even come close to answering my question but I figured it out anyways.

 

[Beans2]

The base is off its rockers these days. CE Sasuke wins because poor Shino didn't get any SRA feats. Katon=A BUG USER'S WORST NIGHTMARE. The location doesn't change the outcome since Sasuke will just locate Shino with sharingan which can see chakra through solid objects like trees. Sasuke just runs at Shino and kills him with a kunai, killing any bugs he encounters along the way with katon.

 

[Dannie]

Who tf is Shino?

 

[Icelerate]

Part one Shino's bugs can't fly. They aren't going to catch Sasuke by crawling on the ground.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Part one Shino's bugs can't fly. They aren't going to catch Sasuke by crawling on the ground.

Why the f*ck are you saying dumb shit like this. Beetles can fly, and his beetles in specific can fly. Just because in Pt.1 Shino didn't use his beetles the way he did in Pt.2 doesn't mean he can't in Pt.1, especially since their structuring is made for flying. This post legit gave me aids. Why come in this thread, and post something like this.

Not to mention OP hasn't stated a mindset, so we can assume it's automatically OoC.

Lmaoo, but fr this how I know you were talking out of your ass:

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Shino's bugs are obviously aerial

 

[Genyūmaru1]

The base is off its rockers these days. CE Sasuke wins because poor Shino didn't get any SRA feats. Katon=A BUG USER'S WORST NIGHTMARE. The location doesn't change the outcome since Sasuke will just locate Shino with sharingan which can see chakra through solid objects like trees. Sasuke just runs at Shino and kills him with a kunai, killing any bugs he encounters along the way with katon.

You can't be fr right now. Pt.1 Shino used his beetles to protect him against a projectile he thought was an explosive bomb, ask yourself, why would Shino use his bugs to protect himself against something rather than outright trying to evade it if he didn't think his bugs could withstand something with intense heat signatures/explosive force? If you put two, and two together you'd come up with because his bugs can withstand such. Bruh I'm not even going to post the scan where Shino, and his dad's bugs are able to adapt to any situation :lol that'd outright shit on your Katon > Bugs claim.

Don't post shit like this: "The base is off its rockers these days." Just because you don't understand a character 100%, that's ignorant as hell. Feel free to post some more shit, I'll happily shit on it. Smh.

 

[Beans2]

You can't be fr right now. Pt.1 Shino used his beetles to protect him against a projectile he thought was an explosive bomb, ask yourself, why would Shino use his bugs to protect himself against something rather than outright trying to evade it if he didn't think his bugs could withstand something with intense heat signatures/explosive force? If you put two, and two together you'd come up with because his bugs can withstand such. Bruh I'm not even going to post the scan where Shino, and his dad's bugs are able to adapt to any situation :lol that'd outright shit on your Katon > Bugs claim.

Don't post shit like this: "The base is off its rockers these days." Just because you don't understand a character 100%, that's ignorant as hell. Feel free to post some more shit, I'll happily shit on it. Smh.

Ok but did the bugs actually protect him from the rocket? No, so you've given me no reasonto believe that katon doesn't burn his beetles to a crisp. A wall of bugs won't save Shino from chidori either. post more shit bug boy, and post these scans you speak so highly of because I can't remember when those things happened.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Ok but did the bugs actually protect him from the rocket? No, so you've given me no reasonto believe that katon doesn't burn his beetles to a crisp. A wall of bugs won't save Shino from chidori either. post more shit bug boy, and post these scans you speak so highly of because I can't remember when those things happened.

Exactly, further more proof you're talking out of your ass.

1. They're 40 meters away from each other so Chidori doesn't even reach him
2. The location is a forest.

Get your shit together dude, Sasuke is legit my favorite character after Itachi, and even I know you're either wanking him terribly bad, or just uninformed.

1. Sasuke isn't getting close to Shino because Shino would already have made several insect clones. Sharingan can't tell the difference between clones (obviously if Itachi couldn't no Sharingan user can end of story tbh), so that right there f*cks Sasuke's chances right there.

2. Sasuke is confused because of multiple clones he cannot determine which clone is the real Shino, Sasuke is easily overwhelmed by multiple swarms of insects. Sasuke can see the color of chakra obviously, but when everything in the NV has chakra (living things), and you're in a forest, and then you're up against Shino a strategist, and easily a character who was smarter than Sasuke in Pt.1 he'd use the forest's fauna as an advantage to his bug lineage.

3. There is no 3, Sasuke is dead. Literally if I could think of a way Sasuke could beat Shino in a FOREST I would. In a plain battlefield, and at a shorter distance, I could see Sasuke taking it, but as it stands currently, no Sasuke gets shitted on plain, and simple.

I'll post more after school gets out today.

 

[Claymantan]

Ok but did the bugs actually protect him from the rocket? No, so you've given me no reasonto believe that katon doesn't burn his beetles to a crisp. A wall of bugs won't save Shino from chidori either. post more shit bug boy, and post these scans you speak so highly of because I can't remember when those things happened.

Pokemon facts? Fire is super effective against bugs?

But seriously:

Sasuke's Katon - and all of his jutsus - is directional. If this Shino can still use his bugs the way he does in P2, Shinos attacks are not directionally focused. Maybe with wires set up, Sasuke can protect himself, but if he tries to do that, Shino's bugs are already on him. Sasuke plain cannot protect himself.

My signature does make me look biased, though...

 

[Forbidden Technique]

The base is off its rockers these days. CE Sasuke wins because poor Shino didn't get any SRA feats. Katon=A BUG USER'S WORST NIGHTMARE. The location doesn't change the outcome since Sasuke will just locate Shino with sharingan which can see chakra through solid objects like trees. Sasuke just runs at Shino and kills him with a kunai, killing any bugs he encounters along the way with katon.

Where was that displayed by 2T sharingan? Because I don't recall Sasuke ever having that ability in the forest of death chuunin exam.

Part one Shino's bugs can't fly. They aren't going to catch Sasuke by crawling on the ground.

Yes, they can fly.

 

[neosmith500]

The underlined is why Shino takes it bruh. The Sharingan can not differentiate chakra, all it sees is chakra color. If Shino simply sets forth several insect clones, Sasuke will not know the difference between them, because like I said previously, the Sharingan does not differentiate chakra signatures, chakra is chakra, and it simply looks the same in the eye of a Sharingan wielder.

Understood , i agree with that bro.

40m Distance is not blitzing range for a VoTE1 Sasuke, I'm sorry, but that's severely over estimating him. Not even Hebi Sasuke could accomplish that, yet you're saying a Pt.1 Sasuke could? Simple answer to that is no. Not only does 40m give Shino ample time to make clones, the forest itself gives Shino the advantage due to his fighting style, and beetle use.

Sasuke can still clear that distance via shunshin quickly and even if shino makes a clone or two they are easily out-performed via speed then fried with katon , the moment shino tries to block the katon using his beetles thats when sasuke uses the flames as cover to blitz behind shino then ends him with a fire ball jutsu.

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Shino literally does not lose against Pt.1 Sasuke in a Forest. Like I said earlier in an open field? Surely, but a forest no.

Its can be debated yes , lets find out for sure , ur move.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Understood , i agree with that bro.



Sasuke can still clear that distance via shunshin quickly and even if shino makes a clone or two they are easily out-performed via speed then fried with katon , the moment shino tries to block the katon using his beetles thats when sasuke uses the flames as cover to blitz behind shino then ends him with a fire ball jutsu.

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Its can be debated yes , lets find out for sure , ur move.

Sasuke lose because he is out of his element these aren't normal bugs they can tank explosions and lift Rubble hundreds of thousands of pounds. And controlled by a living thinking person

 

[Beans2]

Where was that displayed by 2T sharingan? Because I don't recall Sasuke ever having that ability in the forest of death chuunin exam.



Yes, they can fly.

It's an inherent ability of the sharingan.

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Where does P1 Shino have feats of using winged bugs?

 

[Beans2]

Exactly, further more proof you're talking out of your ass.

1. They're 40 meters away from each other so Chidori doesn't even reach him
2. The location is a forest.

Get your shit together dude, Sasuke is legit my favorite character after Itachi, and even I know you're either wanking him terribly bad, or just uninformed.

1. The 40 meters is irrelevant because Sasuke will close the distance.
2. The forest doesn't provide cover when sharingan can see through trees.

And I thought your favorite character was Gaara.

1. Sasuke isn't getting close to Shino because Shino would already have made several insect clones. Sharingan can't tell the difference between clones (obviously if Itachi couldn't no Sharingan user can end of story tbh), so that right there f*cks Sasuke's chances right there.

Not capable of seeing through shadow clones=/=not being able to see through bug clones. Sharingan can

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, unlike the real Shino who just has one chakra network. Aburame clan members literally use this fact against dojutsu users by scattering chakra throughout their bugs to jam chakra vision [

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2. Sasuke is confused because of multiple clones he cannot determine which clone is the real Shino, Sasuke is easily overwhelmed by multiple swarms of insects. Sasuke can see the color of chakra obviously, but when everything in the NV has chakra (living things), and you're in a forest, and then you're up against Shino a strategist, and easily a character who was smarter than Sasuke in Pt.1 he'd use the forest's fauna as an advantage to his bug lineage.

Lol what forest fauna are you even talking about? Like I said, Sasuke can differentiate between the different bugs' chakra since he can already see microscopic nano bugs in his bloodstream. Besides animal chakra is a lot different than human chakra [

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so Sasuke will recognize the chakra as not human anyway and therefore not Shino.

3. There is no 3, Sasuke is dead. Literally if I could think of a way Sasuke could beat Shino in a FOREST I would. In a plain battlefield, and at a shorter distance, I could see Sasuke taking it, but as it stands currently, no Sasuke gets shitted on plain, and simple.

Exactly. There is no third point because all you have done in this post is point out how location and starting distance favor Shino, something I've already taken into account. Sasuke still wins because his jutsu arsenal and ninja abilities give Sasuke the win regardless.

 

[neosmith500]

Sasuke lose because he is out of his element these aren't normal bugs they can tank explosions and lift Rubble hundreds of thousands of pounds. And controlled by a living thinking person

I took all of that into account and gave my counter already , sasuke still wins.

 

[BlacLord™]

Nah VoTE 1 Sasuke still loses. 40m + Insect Jamming. Sharingan won't be able to track Shino, as the Sharingan can only see chakra signatures, not like the Byakugan which can actually pinpoint the human organs etc (greater insight). Being in a forest makes this even worse for Sasuke.

Insect Jamming isn't going to work on a Sharingan. That technique is for sensors, because it creates multiple same signatures; this isn't going to be a problem for the Sharingan though, since the bugs will only have a tiny amount of chakra, where Sasuke will be able to easily discern Shino through his much larger volume.

Shino's fighting style revolves around distracting his opponent whilst a large volume of kikaichu sneak up. It's what he'd have to do because trying to attack him from the front will see his insects greeted by Katon. Furthermore, being in the forest puts Shino at a disadvantage since Sasuke is a proactive fighter, and is surrounded by trees. This means that when Sasuke goes in for a taijutsu offensive, the limited open space will mean they'll cover all ground in a short period of time, leaving no consistent blindspot to attack from. That means he'll have to rely on the speed of his kikaichu, which aren't all that fast.



Shino definitely beats Pre-LoW Sasuke and LoW Sasuke, but things get much tighter from CE Sasuke onwards. After all, Base Sasuke's stats at that point are 22.5, where's Shino's are 18.5. God knows how much they go up with CS and Sharingan.