Is Kotoamatsukami non-counterable?

[true enigma]

No one is immune to genjutsu. Sound genjutsu can still mess him up

Look at my previous post. His susanoo is proven special and uniquely immune.

 

[Observer]

Izanagi can defeat it. If izanagi is activated before KA is used any command the KA user gives will be rewritten

Lol, somehow that didn't come to my mind. Nice, but still.. the person has to expect KA being used on him in order to activate Izanagi beforehand. Also, not only expect, but to predict or sense when it's coming. Otherwise, if he doesn't, then KA owns.

Basically countering hax jutsu by hax jutsu.

 

[Deadlift]

No, it's counterable by Domu

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Do u read the manga?

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That is the most powerful genjutsu in the manga he easily defended against. Shisui is no issue, he is immune.

That so is block the light but he he not immune

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Lol, somehow that didn't come to my mind. Nice, but still.. the person has to expect KA being used on him in order to activate Izanagi beforehand. Also, not only expect, but to predict or sense when it's coming. Otherwise, if he doesn't, then KA owns.

Basically countering hax jutsu by hax jutsu.

But the Hyuga can

 

[true enigma]

That so is block the light but he he not immune

Is that really your logic?? Guess im done here.

 

[LoZelda101]

Theses scenes don't provide any evidence to support your claim.

1 - Naruto stated if you get it by amaterasu it's over. That's false. Obito, 4th Raikage, and Madara survived by hit by amaterasu.

2 - You are still using human partner method to explain why perfect jin can't tsukuyomi. That's flawed because they are not a jin. Kakashi and chiyo were talking about normal human not jin. Jin and tail beast are able to manipulate the time in their inner world. Tail beast experience time the exact same why their jin do so they would have time to defeat it.

3 - You still haven't said anything about Naruto's ability to manipulate all the chakras in his body at the same time. I'm not surprise. It's the best way to counter genjutsu. By using that method a perfect jin doesn't need their tail beast help. If they are placed in a genjutsu all they would have to do is access the tail beast chakra or whatever chakra is not being control and inject it into the chakra that's being controlled. They don't need the tail beast help to access tail beast chakra.

Sigh.... His statement is still valid. If you get hit it is over. He never said "if you get hit, you can't seperate yourself from it" show me a scan where someone was hit that didn't seperate themselves in some way shape or form, cause let's face it, it's an tangible form. Time tsuku is different. It's relative to itachi's time not irl not bijuus time.. It's a dumb comparison to begin with. Because the tsuku isn't the threat, the time manipulation is.

 

[LoZelda101]

That so is block the light but he he not immune

The smartest thing you've ever said

 

[Gerkak]

Look at my previous post. His susanoo is proven special and uniquely immune.

That doesn't prove anything, mugen tsukuyomi is a vision type genjutsu, unless you show him immune to sound type genjutsu or genjutsu of any other type then he isn't immune to genjutsu.

And also I don't know where you got uniquely immune from, the rinnegan, all rinnegan grant immunity to mugen tsukuyomi not just sasuke's.

Lol, somehow that didn't come to my mind. Nice, but still.. the person has to expect KA being used on him in order to activate Izanagi beforehand. Also, not only expect, but to predict or sense when it's coming. Otherwise, if he doesn't, then KA owns.

Basically countering hax jutsu by hax jutsu.

Yeah only haxx can counter haxx. Yeah if the user doesn't know it's coming then KA would own

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

The jutsu is hard to detect, but not undetectable. Genjutsu are dangerous because they can be used in alot of different situations. It's not limited to just the battlefield. That's the advantage. Ninjas would be more prepared to face genjutsu on the battlefield than off the battlefield.

Jin and their tail beast experience time different in their world than the real world. Besides, I have already explained how a perfect jin can defeat tsukuyomi without needing their tail beast help.

Here it is again. They have access to at least 2 different chakra types. Naruto and Killer Bee can both access their tail beast chakra and their chakra at the same time. If they are placed in a genjutsu all they would have to do is access the tail beast chakra or whatever chakra is not being control and inject it into the chakra that's being controlled.

Infinite Tsukuyomi was broken. Sage explained that to defeat IT the rinnegan and all 9 tail chakra must be used together -

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Theses scenes don't provide any evidence to support your claim.

1 - Naruto stated if you get it by amaterasu it's over. That's false. Obito, 4th Raikage, and Madara survived by hit by amaterasu.

2 - You are still using human partner method to explain why perfect jin can't tsukuyomi. That's flawed because they are not a jin. Kakashi and chiyo were talking about normal human not jin. Jin and tail beast are able to manipulate the time in their inner world. Tail beast experience time the exact same why their jin do so they would have time to defeat it.

3 - You still haven't said anything about Naruto's ability to manipulate all the chakras in his body at the same time. I'm not surprise. It's the best way to counter genjutsu. By using that method a perfect jin doesn't need their tail beast help. If they are placed in a genjutsu all they would have to do is access the tail beast chakra or whatever chakra is not being control and inject it into the chakra that's being controlled. They don't need the tail beast help to access tail beast chakra.

Dude, There are clear rules to tsukiyomi. The only way to break out of Tsukiyomi is if you have the same blood. Outside help is irrelevant.

 

[LoZelda101]

That doesn't prove anything, mugen tsukuyomi is a vision type genjutsu, unless you show him immune to sound type genjutsu or genjutsu of any other type then he isn't immune to genjutsu.

And also I don't know where you got uniquely immune from, the rinnegan, all rinnegan grant immunity to mugen tsukuyomi not just sasuke's.



Yeah only haxx can counter haxx. Yeah if the user doesn't know it's coming then KA would own

It's a visual gen but the AOE involved light <-- which sasuke was preventing from hitting him and his team by susanoo. IT= all visual gen is not correct. Especially the fact that edo have been shown to be effected by visual gen(song gen also) but IT doesn't work? Yeah, not the same type of gen.

 

[Gerkak]

It's a visual gen but the AOE involved light <-- which sasuke was preventing from hitting him and his team by susanoo. IT= all visual gen is not correct. Especially the fact that edo have been shown to be effected by visual gen(song gen also) but IT doesn't work? Yeah, not the same type of gen.

Edo not being affected is completely irrelevant here, the genjutsu still gets into the victim through their sense of sight. All genjutsu have differences for example tsukuyomi is different from regular sharingan genjutsu in that it can control the perception of time but both still fall under vision type genjutsu.

 

[LoZelda101]

Edo not being affected is completely irrelevant here, the genjutsu still gets into the victim through their sense of sight. All genjutsu have differences for example tsukuyomi is different from regular sharingan genjutsu in that it can control the perception of time but both still fall under vision type genjutsu.

Sigh... The trance when you get hit by it is the same, the AoE to reach the victim is what is different. That difference allowed sasuke to block it. And that difference did not put the edo hokages in genjutsu where as koto, generic ems gen and sound gen did. Time manipulation is irrelevant

 

[Gerkak]

Sigh... The trance when you get hit by it is the same, the AoE to reach the victim is what is different. That difference allowed sasuke to block it. And that difference did not put the edo hokages in genjutsu where as koto, generic ems gen and sound gen did. Time manipulation is irrelevant

AOE doesn't matter the method of transmission is still sight no matter how you try to change it.

The only way to prove sasuke is immune to genjutsu is to show him shrugging off all types of genjutsu.

 

[LoZelda101]

AOE doesn't matter the method of transmission is still sight no matter how you try to change it.

The only way to prove sasuke is immune to genjutsu is to show him shrugging off all types of genjutsu.

(facepalm). Stopped reading at "AoE doesn't matter" part. If it didn't matter izanami wouldn't be needed to stop someone who negged sharingan's AoE. Smh

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

I believe Izanagi can counter KA. Didn't Danzo use Izanagi after Shisui used KA on him to trap him in a genjutsu but that plan failed. Regardless if this was in the anime it fills in the plothole of this statement.

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Izanagi can make it seem as if the KA was controlling an illusion hence the brief pause by the user who used Izanagi.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Umm.. What? How can Gaara's sand shield protect him from KA? Correct me if I'm wrong, but genjutsu is not a projectile, isn't it? And Gaara's braincells don't seem to made of sand. But I could agree that some specific people can break the genjutsu ( Because, for example, Hagoromo getting owned by KA would be beyond funny and a big slap to the face )

I'm saying KA is a genjutsu that doesn't feel like one if used either ur forcing something or trying to kill the person u put it in

In which killing gaara would still be in affective because of his auto sand ...

 

[~Ethereal~]

Turn into a robot then you can be fine.

 

[Yatori]

Turn into a robot then you can be fine.

Like naruto mecha

 

[Esdez]

anyone possesses rinnegan is immune to KA