Shisui Uchiha is the youngest MS user!

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Shisui does'nt have that weakness, ots his eyes afterall, if he did, people won't fear kotoamatsukami, as he would only use it once in his life, but during his time, he was known, if he awakened his MS at the age of 7 for example, he woulda just used it once and that's it, very few would know of the power behind KA, and again its his eyes
 

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Man... Filler until further notice. Like who Freaking eyes are those? Is it possible to clone Sasuke's eyes?

thats not freakng filler...look up the definition of filler...and no Shisui did not have a 10 year waiting period
 

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Kotoamatsukami is a MS Jutsu that can only be use every 10 years unless you got 1st Hokage's DNA. Itachi said the 10 years mark didn't reach yet until the war arc and that is why he couldn't use it on Sasuke.

The war arc took place like 4 or 5 years after the "Uchiha massacre".

Shit...Now I'm confuse. Shisui was on his way to use Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke's father, but failed due to Danzo. Meaning that he didn't get to use it at all.

So why Itachi sa, "Kotoamatsukami" wasn't ready at the time to use on Sasuke?

Shit...Now I'm lost or there is a plot-hole!

But anyway, How they know about the 10 years period? Meaning the Shisui had awaken the MS like at the age of 6 to 8 and use it before.

The Uchiha massacre happened when Sasuke was around 7/8. If the War Arc happened 4-5 years later, then Sasuke would only be 11-12 in the War.
 

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thats not freakng filler...look up the definition of filler...and no Shisui did not have a 10 year waiting period

Guess you can't tell the vibe of my comment. Meaning that Shin shit had plot-holes. So Can't be taken serious until further notice.

The Uchiha massacre happened when Sasuke was around 7/8. If the War Arc happened 4-5 years later, then Sasuke would only be 11-12 in the War.

Hold on... So how old is Itachi? By your guess, Itachi would be like 11/12 during the Uchiha massacre.
 

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Guess you can't tell the vibe of my comment. Meaning that Shin shit had plot-holes. So Can't be taken serious until further notice.



Hold on... So how old is Itachi? By your guess, Itachi would be like 11/12 during the Uchiha massacre.

ummm....what plot holes?
 

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Guess you can't tell the vibe of my comment. Meaning that Shin shit had plot-holes. So Can't be taken serious until further notice.



Hold on... So how old is Itachi? By your guess, Itachi would be like 11/12 during the Uchiha massacre.

Itachi born in June was 13 during the massacre

Sasuke born in July was 7 During the massacre

In the war arc Sasuke was 17
 

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Itachi born in June was 13 during the massacre

Sasuke born in July was 7 During the massacre

In the war arc Sasuke was 17

So itachi was 22/23 when he dropped dead. Meaning, him having a child is a possibility. Just lovely!
 

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Fillers are fillers. They fill your head with unanswerable questions.
 

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No. There's no plot-hole. It makes sense and was explained in the manga and Kishimoto's timeline.
Kotoamatsukami is a MS Jutsu that can only be use every 10 years unless you got 1st Hokage's DNA. Itachi said the 10 years mark didn't reach yet until the war arc and that is why he couldn't use it on Sasuke.

The war arc took place like 4 or 5 years after the "Uchiha massacre".

Incorrect. The war arc took place 8 years after the massacre. (Itachi was 13 during the massacre, dies at age 21, and then the war arc happens sometime after his death.)

But Shisui died when Itachi was 11. So, yes it has been ten years.

Shit...Now I'm confuse. Shisui was on his way to use Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke's father, but failed due to Danzo. Meaning that he didn't get to use it at all.

Not just Fugaku. Shisui wanted to KA every Uchiha Police Force member.

So why Itachi sa, "Kotoamatsukami" wasn't ready at the time to use on Sasuke?

Because it wasn't. It had not been ten years.


Shit...Now I'm lost or there is a plot-hole!

You were lost. Everything is fine. :p

The novels mention the eye that was stolen by Danzo as the only active one and the one left as useless at the time since it had been used recently. It's implied that Uchiha know how to use their MS in a basic sense once they awaken an eye. (EX: Obito using kamui w/o trouble against those fodders that killed Rin). That's how Shisui knew. Doesn't seem like he used it though, given he was 12+ when he awakened the eye a little before meeting Itachi & died 6 yrs after meeting him.

But anyway, How they know about the 10 years period? Meaning the Shisui had awaken the MS like at the age of 6 to 8 and use it before.

How did Itachi know? The only possible way would be for Shisui to tell him.

If you want to take the novels as canon, (which the Japanese and Kishimoto are since they will be the last time this issue of the story is addressed), he isn't.

Shisui met Itachi when the latter was 5. Shisui had awakened his MS a few months prior to that meeting. He had already been going on missions and was out the of the academy, and it mentions that he did not graduate early. So, the minimum age gap between Itachi and Shisui is 7 years. The youngest Shisui could have been to awaken his MS was 12, if he met Itachi and lost his former friend soon after Academy graduation (we don't really know, since the novel never specifies how long after graduation this was). However, we do know that Shisui was not 18 or older when he met Itachi since the novel says that he wasn't exactly an adult either. So, Shisui is anywhere from 7-12 yrs older than Itachi. No wonder Itachi considered him to be an older brother.

Itachi awakened MS at age 11 and is the youngest. Obito at age 13. Sasuke at 16. Madara and Izuna awakened it when they were adults.

I think Shisui actually awakened it at 13+ because of the nature of the mission he was on in the novel where he lost his best friend. His friend was caught by the enemy and Shisui could have saved him, but decided not to. It was because he was jealous that his best friend was more skilled than he was and to top it off was from an irrelevant clan. So, he let him get slaughtered and ran away. Sometime after, he reflected on his mistake of a decision, and out of regret and grief awakened MS. Something like this seems too dangerous for 12 yr olds to go on (going after enemy w/o a sensei). Maybe the anime will add on to this or gloss over it. We'll see.

maybe thats in the filler :p god bless filler

Should be. Let's hope they do a good job. :) Let's hope it's not too redundant as well.

I think we learn that from Danzo.

No, other than taking Shisui's one useable eye- he has nothing to do with Shisui.

We all learnt that Yagura (Mizukage) was under the control of a then unspecified person.We later learn this is madara/obito and we also know that itachi had help in the massacre for he alone couldn't kill a whole clan. I think either danzo or/and obito assisted him and payment for that was the eye of shisui.Which obito then used to control Yagura and insite the massacres of Kiri. this would work with the timeframe aswell.

Mei speculated this, but was incorrect given Danzo always kept one eye and Itachi the other. Obito desperately wanted Shisui's eye but never acquired it given Danzo destroyed it with his death.

Obito used his own brand of genjutsu on Yagura.

What about Shin?

Out of non-Uchiha, he would be the youngest.

Pretty sure it was always ready to be used. Itachi only wanted to use it on Sasuke if he went against Konoha so he did that whole thing with Naruto. That failed and then he burnt it.

No, Edo Itachi said it wasn't when Killer Bee and Naruto asked him why he didn't just use it during his fight with Sasuke. He said it was still on cool-down. But, it is true that even if it was ready he still wouldn't use it back then since he wanted to help Sasuke with his death (get closure by killing the murderer of the Uchiha clan), so you are absolute correct except for the first sentence. :p

Off-topic: I think it is a better question as to who's MS Shin uses. :/
 
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