FTG technically a very easy Genin level Jutsu

[Jokule67]

Technically? Yes. Practically? Not even close.

Not even technically. The fact that 3 jonin are needed shows how difficult it is. Also you need the reflexes and speed for it to even be effective because ninja can counter speed.

Example being killer bee, JJ Madara, and Momoshiki. They all countered S/T ninjutsu.

 

[Nick01]

It took 3 to use it. Yeah it's pretty high lvl.

 

[shelke]

That's why it took three Jounins to perform it? Right.

 

[davidou]

You just need a symbol/ mark and summoning to create a FTG which the same thing tenten doing right?
Technically tenten should able to use ftg much better than anyone else because she transport things and hv thousand weapon+ her abilities in sealing, there is no reason for Jiraiya, kakashi and Tsunade or other high ranking ninja unable to use the jutsu because the concept of FTG is easy more easy than Kagebunshin.

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Tenten can seal weapons in toilet papers, then she can release the seal.Boruto's ninja tools work like that.
She can't seal herself in the toilet paper (1st point that counters you) and then release the seal from inside the toilet paper (2nd counter) to appear on another faraway toilet paper (3rd counter).

Tenten has not the ability to connect the space of 2 distant toilet papers.


FTG connects the location of your chakra to the location of FTG symbols, it's a complete different thing.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

logically there is no reason why need 3 ninja to do such easy tech.

The chakra control to use this jutus is high and the chakra lvl is high to

 

[Marin]

It functions on the same principles, so it's very similar.

Also, those were no ordinary ninja, those were high skilled Jonin.

Who said they aren't. OP stated that since they were similar, any ninja who could do one could do the other.

That's the false premise.

 

[shelke]

The chakra control to use this Justus is high and the chakra lvl is high to

FTG requires very little (extremely minute, in fact) chakra to use it.

 

[LuckyMan]

FTG requires very little (extremely minute, in fact) chakra to use it.

No.

The chakra required to fly to another location depends on the size of what you're flying. For examle, Minato need a few seconds to mold the chakra to fly Kurama away from the village.

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No one knows how much chakra it takes because it was never hinted or implied but considering it is an S-rank jutsu its safe to say it requires a lot of chakra. That's probably another reason why only he and Tobirama can use it in battle so casually, because of their immense chakra amounts.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

FTG requires very little (extremely minute, in fact) chakra to use it.

Dude that a lie and u know it

 

[shelke]

No.

The chakra required to fly to another location depends on the size of what you're flying. For example, Minato need a few seconds to mold the chakra to fly Kurama away from the village.

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No one knows how much chakra it takes because it was never hinted or implied but considering it is an S-rank jutsu its safe to say it requires a lot of chakra. That's probably another reason why only he and Tobirama can use it in battle so casually, because of their immense chakra amounts.

FTG for Minato alone requires very little chakra. Which is why he abuses it in every single battle. You are talking about 'Transporting' something other than Minato. That would work on completely different dynamics.

S rank Jutsu doesn't have anything to do with Chakra. That rank is based on its difficulty and secrecy even. Kakashi clearly explains it to Naruto. DBIV doesn't state anything of the sort either.

 

[LuckyMan]

FTG for Minato alone requires very little chakra. Which is why he abuses it in every single battle. You are talking about 'Transporting' something other than Minato. That would work on completely different dynamics.

S rank Jutsu doesn't have anything to do with Chakra. That rank is based on its difficulty and secrecy even. Kakashi clearly explains it to Naruto. DBIV doesn't state anything of the sort either.

Then prove it requires very little chakra for Minato to teleport himself. Abusing it doesn't mean it requires little chakra so you'll need a different form of proof than that.

 

[shelke]

Then prove it requires very little chakra for Minato to teleport himself. Abusing it doesn't mean it requires little chakra so you'll need a different form of proof than that.

Oh please, how much chakra do you think that guy has anyway, when he uses FTG countless times in the battle? Nowhere does it even remotely imply that FTG uses a massive amount of chakra for a sinlge small-object teleportation.

 

[ComplexCity]

And it begins

 

[LuckyMan]

Oh please, how much chakra do you think that guy has anyway, when he uses FTG countless times in the battle? Nowhere does it even remotely imply that FTG uses a massive amount of chakra for a sinlge small-object teleportation.

None of this is proof of your claim it "requires very little chakra".

Him using it countless times doesn't mean it requires little chakra. The manga not implying it uses a lot of chakra doesn't mean it's not chakra taxing.Minato has enormous amounts of chakra though.

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[shelke]

None of this is proof of your claim it "requires very little chakra".

Him using it countless times doesn't mean it requires little chakra. The manga not implying it uses a lot of chakra doesn't mean it's not chakra taxing.Minato has enormous amounts of chakra though.

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Where is your proof that it uses lots of it, when he reacts and teleports instantly (meaning the chakra kneading process is extremely small), even in situations where someone takes him off gurad - Obito incidents?

So, where are you getting this from? It's not in the manga. Enormous is a relative term. How big? Kisame big? Nagato big? Hashirama big? Naruto (bar Kurama chakra roiding him out big)? Sasuke big? Madara big? How big? Him having enormous chakra has absolutely nothing to do with FTG itself requiring large chakra.

 

[davidou]

None of this is proof of your claim it "requires very little chakra".

Him using it countless times doesn't mean it requires little chakra. The manga not implying it uses a lot of chakra doesn't mean it's not chakra taxing.Minato has enormous amounts of chakra though.

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You won't find proofs that something is very little cause it's just a matter of scale, you are very little (compared to Earth) and you are also big (compared to ants).
The fact that Minato used that jutsu on hundreds of chakra pools should convince yourself that "transporting" 1 chakra pool could require "very" little chakra, I mean, can't 1/100 be called very little?

 

[LuckyMan]

Where is your proof that it uses lots of it, when he reacts and teleports instantly (meaning the chakra kneading process is extremely small), even in situations where someone takes him off gurad - Obito incidents?

So, where are you getting this from? It's not in the manga. Enormous is a relative term. How big? Kisame big? Nagato big? Hashirama big? Naruto (bar Kurama chakra roiding him out big)? Sasuke big? Madara big? How big? Him having enormous chakra has absolutely nothing to do with FTG itself requiring large chakra.

I never said it uses a lot as a fact. I said its safe to assume it does. Read my post again. The chakra kneading process being extremely small doesn't mean it requires small chakra either. One can just have fine chakra control, like when Itachi using Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi. Those are two heavy chakra moves that are executed nigh instantly so that point is invalid.

It took 3 Jonin to teleport Mei. They already knew the jutsu because Minato taught it to them so it being "complex" is out of the question. The only thing that remains is that it must be chakra taxing. Nothing else makes sense.

 

[shelke]

I never said it uses a lot as a fact. I said its safe to assume it does. Read my post again. The chakra kneading process being extremely small doesn't mean it requires small chakra either. One can just have fine chakra control, like when Itachi using Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi. Those are two heavy chakra moves that are executed nigh instantly so that point is invalid.

It took 3 Jonin to teleport Mei. They already knew the jutsu because Minato taught it to them so it being "complex" is out of the question. The only thing that remains is that it must be chakra taxing. Nothing else makes sense.

Safe to assume would imply that you are quite convinced that it does, when nothing indicates it. Ae charged at him in V1 the second time when he teleported to Bee. How much time did V1 Ae give him to mold a good bit of chakra when the distance was barely 2 to 3 meters? The fact that he teleports away, despite being in unfavourable situations, repeatedly, proves to me that the chakra is very minute, hence the speedy kneading. Unless Minato is some undisputed god of near-FTG level chakra kneading speed, this is speculation, unsupported by the manga.

That is Doujutsu and the second one is Genjutsu / Doujutsu. Both have nothing to do with teleportation. Amaterasu, in a way, literally teleports out of no where on the target, but the usage and the 'MS being taxing' to begin with are vastly different things.

That has nothing to do with chakra, and everything to do with skill. They lack the skill. They have made ZERO mention of chakra. So, it had nothing to do with it. FTG existed since Tobirama's time. Yet only Minato improved upon it. That should tell you something. Also, better chakra control results in LESS chakra usage:

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You won't find proofs that something is very little cause it's just a matter of scale, you are very little (compared to Earth) and you are also big (compared to ants).
The fact that Minato used that jutsu on hundreds of chakra pools should convince yourself that "transporting" 1 chakra pool could require "very" little chakra, I mean, can't 1/100 be called very little?

This. It's common sense.

 

[Jokule67]

I never said it uses a lot as a fact. I said its safe to assume it does. Read my post again. The chakra kneading process being extremely small doesn't mean it requires small chakra either. One can just have fine chakra control, like when Itachi using Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi. Those are two heavy chakra moves that are executed nigh instantly so that point is invalid.

It took 3 Jonin to teleport Mei. They already knew the jutsu because Minato taught it to them so it being "complex" is out of the question. The only thing that remains is that it must be chakra taxing. Nothing else makes sense.

Or maybe the chakra control or maybe a special chakra ratio like bijuu dama. Lots of factors can be put into play. Its all possible
But what is obvious is that it is a complicated jutsu from the fact that it is improved upon from Tobirama's original invention. For all we know they probably was taught the precurser blueprints.

Example being is Kabuto improving Edo Tensei. Difference is Kabuto actually said anyone could do it, whereas the jounin said it took 3 of them. So its harder to pull of by yourself. Like Naruto using shadowclones to do Rasengan.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Is that why only two geniuses with insane reflexes & huge Chakra pool can pull it off on their own?