[Debate] Ruling with an Iron Fist works?

[Senju Bean]

China is much closer to being a totalitarian state than is the rest of the developed world.

They have the biggest population but they have virtually no mass shootings and no terrorism.

You would think that because they have many times the population of other countries that they would have some mass shootings just by sheer chance. Out of billions of people, it has to happen just once right. But nope.

So does that mean they are doing something right?

 

[chopstickchakra]

China is much closer to being a totalitarian state than is the rest of the developed world.

They have the biggest population but they have virtually no mass shootings and no terrorism.

You would think that because they have many times the population of other countries that they would have some mass shootings just by sheer chance. Out of billions of people, it has to happen just once right. But nope.

So does that mean they are doing something right?

Yeah, they're keeping better tabs on their international news than we are. Ever consider that information just doesn't get out as easily as it does in other countries?

 

[Gerkak]

It's only a matter of time before china changes too. The reason why people haven't retaliated is the same reason why people in the gulf states haven't tried to. China has a booming economy and will be the world number one in a few short years, when China's economy starts to slow down and nears stagnation people will turn on the Government.

Totalitarianism is never the answer, it always fails that isn't gonna change. The Chinese communist party can remain in power for a time as with those before them, their time will come

 

[Senju Bean]

It's only a matter of time before china changes too. The reason why people haven't retaliated is the same reason why people in the gulf states haven't tried to. China has a booming economy and will be the world number one in a few short years, when China's economy starts to slow down and nears stagnation people will turn on the Government.

Totalitarianism is never the answer, it always fails that isn't gonna change. The Chinese communist party can remain in power for a time as with those before them will come

Well, people can't rebel there, literally. Their military will just squash them. It happened before.(tienimen square)


Their own people are terrifered of the iron fist.

ISIS is probabily scared of them too since China might be the only ones with the balls to nuke them.

 

[Gerkak]

Well, people can't rebel there, literally. Their military will just squash them. It happened before.(tienimen square)


Their own people are terrifered of the iron fist.

ISIS is probabily scared of them too since China might be the only ones with the balls to nuke them.

Too few people rebelled then that's why they were squashed. Before the communist party China had a fascist Central Government, it was the people of China that rebelled and assisted the soviet backed Mao and his men to take control of China. The same can happen today if enough people rebel and foreign entities choose to support them, the communist party can be removed. Internal problems are much more difficult to deal with than external ones, the Chinese military can't just bomb random parts of China in an effort to destroy the rebels, this method failed in Syria.

China can't nuke ISIS because ISIS isn't in one place, if China uses a nuclear weapon the whole world will turn on them.

 

[Senju Bean]

Too few people rebelled then that's why they were squashed. Before the communist party China had a fascist Central Government, it was the people of China that rebelled and assisted the soviet backed Mao and his men to take control of China. The same can happen today if enough people rebel and foreign entities choose to support them, the communist party can be removed. Internal problems are much more difficult to deal with than external ones, the Chinese military can't just bomb random parts of China in an effort to destroy the rebels, this method failed in Syria.

China can't nuke ISIS because ISIS isn't in one place, if China uses a nuclear weapon the whole world will turn on them.

If enough people rebel, but no one has because they keep their people safe( as long as they don't rebel lol). They are happy just to have that.




No they wouldn't turn on them if they tried to Nuke ISIS. It's only if Europe for America gets hit with a chinese nuke that would cause that.

But an ISIS occupied location? No. No one would even care. Sure they are not in one place, but they can play shotgun.


Even if they don't nuke, they can just pull a Gengis Khan and annex the Middle East.

 

[Marin]

Only until the system collapses...

 

[Senju Bean]

Only until the system collapses...

They've been running strong with no signs of slowdown .

 

[Marin]

They've been running strong with no signs of slowdown .

Except of complete isolation and terrible infrastructure. :/ I'm not into politics (and neither are you as can be see) but such systems do collapse. It's only a matter of time.

EDIT: My bad, tought you were talking about North Korea for some reason.

China is a different case since their growth came at a big cost. People can't even breed normally there. The whole place is a mess and the communist party will fall sooner or later, like other members pointed out.

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

A wise man once said: the people are sheep. They need to be herded by someone. If you give power to the sheep what will happen? Of course they would scatter and be confused

I never understood the freedom of speech rule and the little power the ruler has . And the no harsh rules

1: freedom of stupidity? Im all in for uniting speeches. somethings that actually benefits a country and its people. But im totally again freedom of hate speech since it brings nothing but fear and hate.

2: no harsh rules? Honestly be stupidity there. I mean People get away with murder by just serving 3-4 years. no wonder that crime is so popular in the west. Criminals there consider it a picnic to go to the jail. (And they also do even more harm in prison)

 

[Wabbit]

They heavily censor media, you only see what they want you to see. Their population is slave tier so there is nothing like any would buy a gun and shoot bunch of people if he does he definitely be shot and you might not likely to hear about it.
They have insurgency in some parts, they just move their army and squash them. The race, religion card against them are nil and no outside country meddles with what they are doing inside.
Als they are kind of isolated no threat from outside. What goal any terrorist organization you hear a lot would achieve by attacking china? They have problem with Tibetians who are monks who burn themselves in protests and Uighur are inside can be controlled with force.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Except of complete isolation and terrible infrastructure. :/ I'm not into politics (and neither are you as can be see) but such systems do collapse. It's only a matter of time.

EDIT: My bad, tought you were talking about North Korea for some reason.

China is a different case since their growth came at a big cost. People can't even breed normally there. The whole place is a mess and the communist party will fall sooner or later, like other members pointed out.

You know China lifted the 1 child per family rule.

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They did it from fear of over crowding and limited resources it's not like they did it for shits and giggles.

 

[Marin]

You know China lifted the 1 child per family rule.

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They did it from fear of over crowding and limited resources it's not like they did it for shits and giggles.

I don't see how that has anything to do with my post?

EDIT: LOOOL I just realised I wrote breed instead of breathe. xD I was talking about pollution, not population control. :'D

 

[BanGinji]

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[Insidious Smile]

They have the biggest population but they have virtually no mass shootings and no terrorism.

You would think that because they have many times the population of other countries that they would have some mass shootings just by sheer chance. Out of billions of people, it has to happen just once right.

I read that if you are caught in China dealing cocaine or any kind of drug you are arrested, charged with attempted murder, and then executed.

 

[Senju Bean]

I read that if you are caught in China dealing cocaine or any kind of drug you are arrested, charged with attempted murder, and then executed.

Their strictness works. Drug trafficking occurs less in China than the U.S.

The dealers realize that it's less risky to just take the business to elsewhere.