Regarding the final Gai vs Kisame fight....

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What would have been the result of the final Gai vs Kisame fight if Kisame had began the battle at 100% (full rest, no half transformed body) and had Samehada's full loyalty?

* Let's only talk about 7th gate Gai in this since we already know if he went to full 8 they'd both wind up dead anyways.
 

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Samehada is a borderline non-factor but it'd be a very impressive battle. Having seen 7 Gates in full glory though I have to give it to the Mighty man.
 

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Kisame would still become fried fish sticks
 

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nothing would change since samehada relies on absorbing chakra from attacks to help kisame.

hirudora would still one shot them both.

and kisame already recovered fully by stealing chakra from bee.
 

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I still think Kisame can't counter hirudora
 

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nothing would change since samehada relies on absorbing chakra from attacks to help kisame.

hirudora would still one shot them both.

and kisame already recovered fully by stealing chakra from bee.

He would have been able to fuse with samehada and since they were in an ocean samehada's loyalty would have been a big advantage if that were the case he would never get hit by hirudora in a vast ocean as a shark ...

Which shows the nerfing of kisame


Kisame lost only because of his ignorance of gai's jutsu not because 7th gates was more powerful which is not the case he was better
 

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I thought Kisame's shark transformation might give him an edge in the ocean. Would you guys mind explaining more? I haven't picked a side or anything, just interested to see how the battle would play out.

Guy's 7 and 8 gates were pushing away Earth like it was no issue. Water isn't going to affect him too much and I don't see the dome being much use for example.

I think Kishi always paired them up because he and Kisame secretly knew Guy was pretty much the perfect counter to him.
 

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Depends on if Kisame knows that Hirudora is Taijutsu this time around and if he has a way of dodging it.
 

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Guy's 7 and 8 gates were pushing away Earth like it was no issue. Water isn't going to affect him too much and I don't see the dome being much use for example.

I think Kishi always paired them up because he and Kisame secretly knew Guy was pretty much the perfect counter to him.

Fail 8 was pushing away earth like nothing not 7th so leave 8th gate feats out of this


Further counter to ghis gateas aura pushing away an ocean fanfic is the fact that hirudora was performed underwater...



Anyway With samehada fused and having the field advantage plus increased durability he Would Never get hit by hirudora being in an ocean as a shark and kisame was still able to move fight , resist genjutsu and perform jutsu after taking hirudora so imagine with the durability buff fusing with samehada does...


Clearly u know nothing




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He would have been able to fuse with samehada and since they were in an ocean samehada's loyalty would have been a big advantage if that were the case he would never get hit by hirudora in a vast ocean as a shark ...

Fail, kisame was already at an advantage being in an ocean. He can manipulate ocean on his own not through samehada

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Samaehada gives him the ability to absorb chakra from attacks which is moot point because he used a gigantic chakra absorbing attack much bigger than samehada anyway.


Which shows the nerfing of kisame

Again fail, he was at an advantage.

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Kisame lost only because of his ignorance of gai's jutsu not because 7th gates was more powerful which is not the case he was better

Kisame lost because he was weaker, he used his ultimate attack which did nothing. Knowing about hirudora doesn't help him because he can't do anything about it when his strongest attack couldn't save him.
 

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Lmao u sound like someone who just got bodied ima start calling u Meek

Nah just this clearly means a lot more to you than it does to me, you gotta resolve some sh*t man- you sound hella insecure. Or is that just the Texas talk?

It's so funny when people use 'wrecked' as if they've done anything more than post a response to somebodies calm indifferent opinion on an anime forum. You do you man, you do you :bdpf:
 

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Fail, kisame was already at an advantage being in an ocean. He can manipulate ocean on his own not through samehada

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Samaehada gives him the ability to absorb chakra from attacks which is moot point because he used a gigantic chakra absorbing attack much bigger than samehada anyway.




Again fail, he was at an advantage.

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Kisame lost because he was weaker, he used his ultimate attack which did nothing. Knowing about hirudora doesn't help him because he can't do anything about it when his strongest attack couldn't save him.

The weakeast rebuttal post ever congrats my friend .._



U literally said fail because he already had the advantage without samehada ._u must thought that shit was bullet proof. Anyway yes he was at an advantage from the start which is the ocean but fusing increases that advantage and takes it a step further .

Kisame without samehada cant swim like he can and has with samehada which maneuverability in his oceanic advantage is vital in this debate since he could avoid hirudora entirely as well as take it and keep on trucking as i explained previously how without samehada he resist genjutsu and perform jutsu and still could move and attack furtherfusing with samehada increases his durability and or negates the injury depending on if he fuses before or after hirudora is landed... Damn im good

So fusing with samehada lets him take hirudora like a gand or avoid it...Oh and gai at that time could only use hirudora once so missing or getting it tanked is bad



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Fail 8 was pushing away earth like nothing not 7th so leave 8th gate feats out of this


Further counter to ghis gateas aura pushing away an ocean fanfic is the fact that hirudora was performed underwater...



Anyway With samehada fused and having the field advantage plus increased durability he Would Never get hit by hirudora being in an ocean as a shark and kisame was still able to move fight , resist genjutsu and perform jutsu after taking hirudora so imagine with the durability buff fusing with samehada does...

pffft as if, hirudora pulverises
 

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Nah just this clearly means a lot more to you than it does to me, you gotta resolve some sh*t man- you sound hella insecure. Or is that just the Texas talk?

It's so funny when people use 'wrecked' as if they've done anything more than post a response to somebodies calm indifferent opinion on an anime forum. You do you man, you do you :bdpf:

I could have said bodied , stomped , smashed etc i just said what came to mind first.Just like you did with that illogical post , ihate when people talk about something they clearly don't know and clearly tou knew nothing ... Obviously what verbage i used to describe your posts demise isn't what bothers its how easily i proved you knew nothing.
 
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