Why naruto is stronger than madara

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It took 2 guys to take him on with powers that were the same to his. Me personally can not an will not put Naruto and Sasuke over Madara because it was 2 on 1. I said before that the only reason they got the feats they got on him was because he was occupied by one or the other.

If they Had to deal with dude on their own in a 1 on 1 the fight to me i don't think would have lasted long.

Madara grew up in war and stayed at war his whole life pretty much,battle experience and raw power was something that no one could match him in but Hashirama..this is fact.

I like them both, but 1 on 1 Naruto and Sasuke will lose.... it is proven by them having to clique on him to cause any damage an that wasn't even enough.

If it's not BZ pullin ass or Hashirama then there is no beating Madara in his era of being reborn.
 

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IT one shots Naruto tho. If it wasn't for Sasuke's Susanoo, he would've went night night.

JJ Madara > Naruto = Sasuke
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Really naruto got hit so easily by sasuke sword. The naruto that fought naruto wouldn't get hit by that. It clear naruto and sasuke has lost some battle sense due to there being so much peace.

Yes but it was mostly Sasuke fault for Naruto getting hit with that sword.
 

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if Naruto was not the strongest it then the show might aswell be called Madara and the sage of 6 paths
 
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lmao people forgot infinite tsukuyomi 1 shots naruto.

Lol pretty much

Madara has a juubi size supply of rikudou senjustu and the rinnegan.

Naruto only has rikudou senjustu, he has nothing to compensate for the ocular power of hagoromoo.
 

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if Naruto was not the strongest it then the show might aswell be called Madara and the sage of 6 paths

Naruto surpassed Madara at the end though. After he had gotten his RSM powers he was whooping Maddy's ass.
 

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Lol that went bad real quick.

Madara one shits him tho.
 

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Naruto Negs.

naruto>>madara
naruto>>hashirama
Naruto>sasuke
Naruto>itachi
Naruto>>>NV
NAruto>>Minato
Naruto>>tsunade
 

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Naruto Negs.

naruto>>madara
naruto>>hashirama
Naruto>sasuke
Naruto>itachi
Naruto>>>NV
NAruto>>Minato
Naruto>>tsunade

finally someone who speaks the Real truth
 

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lets hear you say then -,- madara wins low diff


Lol @ low-diff!

I will be using Naruto in the Last era given that it seems this was his strongest self.


Naruto still has RSM, and there's no reason to think he lost any potency at the Last. Madara's chakra is just juubi chakra, which is more or less the same in quality as Naruto in the war. Madara's susanoo should only be somewhat stronger than rinnegan Sasuke's (without the bijus). He has his rinnegan, but it can only be used every 5 seconds, which might not end well for Madara, especially given the limited nature of his Deva feat.

Naruto's strongest weapon is his Ashura Avatar. Now, given that it stalemated Indra's Arrow, it should be comparable to biju susanoo, which is much, much stronger than the Kurama Avatars which equal Rinnegan Sasuke's susanoo.


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This is the level of power VOTE 2 Naruto alone can have. Ashura Avatar works by overloading Kurama with NE.

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He has full Kurama, which means that his capacity should be doubled. So the Ashura Avatar of the Last era Naruto would be at least twice as strong as the one in VOTE 2. Because of this, in Avatar VS Susanoo combat, Madara will be lolstomped. Additionally, Madara's Deva abilities should not prove a viable threat through the avatar's physical power alone.

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Sasuke's PS, and by extension, an Rikkudo Kurama Avatar, is able to easily handle the CTs with physical attributes alone. The success would be tremendously higher with the Last Era Naruto.


I'm well aware that Madara split the CTs, meaning this is a more accurate representation of Deva's full power.

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I'm sure someone would make the argument that, since CTs won't be effective (Naruto could easily obliterate it even if its a combined one), that Madara's Almighty push would be similar in scale, and thus, and incredibly effective weapon against Naruto, but it's not. We can use Pain for scale.

This is Pain's largest almighty push VS his CT.

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They are comparable (CT still being bigger), but one has to remember that this is Pain taking Deva path to the extreme to levels lethal to himself (depowering Deva path for an extended period and shortening his life). All of the other times he's used Almighty Push, it's been pitiful in comparison in scale. So, in other words, most of Madara's Almighty Pushes will be similarly pitiful in comparison to the scale of his CT's combined area, which, as we've already established doesn't pose that much of a threat. It's clear that Madara's standard Deva Path will be an annoyance at best. The biggest threat is if Madara focuses everything on a huge Almighty Push, and to be fair, this would most likely kill VOTE2 Naruto or Sasuke with Kurama Avatar or PS if they didn't use an attack to cushion the blow. However, this will not kill the Last Era Naruto with an Ashura Avatar, and after a failed attempt to kill him, Madara will be without Deva for at least 5 minutes, giving a lot of opportunity for Naruto to kill him.


Also, it's reasonable to assume Naruto's proficiency in RSM itself is increased given the feats of BSM Naruto in the Last, having feats he couldn't dream of the first time he had it. If this is the case, then the Last Era Naruto's Ashura Avatar would have more than a 2X bonus, as he'd have both double the reserves for Natural Energy and far greater potency. RSM Naruto in the Last era, would defeat Madara.
 

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Madara Sama Is god if your too blind to see from the moment he was revived he was nerfed like a Frisby then you STUPID. HOLY MADARA COULD OF PULLED OVER 100 METEORS OUT THE SKY AND NARUTO AND SASUKE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TANK THAT BUT NO HE DIDN'T DO THAT NOR SHOW HIS SIX PATHS ENHANCED SUSSANO NOT TO MENTION MOKUTON EITHER. AND THE FACT STILL HASN'T BEEN ARGUED THAT LIMBOS CAN USE NINJUTSU THAT ADD ANOTHER POINT TO MADARA. GET THIS BROKE DOWN RATCHET THREAD OUT OF HERE.
 

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He's stronger than dual rinnegan Madara without the juubi.
 

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yeah, let's just forget the fact that Current Naruto's best feat is needing clone jutsu to handle a bunch of kids who were watered down clones of a guy who was relatively fodder lvl. Kid/MS Madara wiped his bum with the whole lot of them.
 
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yeah, let's just forget the fact that Current Naruto's best feat is needing clone jutsu to handle a bunch of kids who were watered down clones of a guy who was relatively fodder lvl. Kid/MS Madara wiped his bum with the whole lot of them.

Do you really expect someone to fall for this troll?
 
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