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Okay. We'll go with that.. I don't know why I'm discussion this fight anyway.. I've always said Naruto was stronger during VOTE2, I no longer think that.
You've always thought Naruto was stronger during VOTE2, and you no longer think that?

Just making sure that's what you said because I didn't quite get the wording cause it was random.

Idk I was talking about paths and you asked a question. We just continued from there, nothing unusual
 

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Nice logic. So anyone that's not familiar with their ability = them being handicapped? No it's not. By your logic Naruto was handicapped on top the hospital because he didn't use any of Kurama's chakra

So naruto never use Kurama's chakra before the battle on the roof top?? Yea nice logic.
 

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So naruto never use Kurama's chakra before the battle on the roof top?? Yea nice logic.

Stop twisting my words. I didn't say that. I said based off your dumb logic, Naruto was handicapped against Sasuke because he didn't use an ability that he wasn't familiar with. Knowing and seeing a tech =/= being experienced with it
 

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You've always thought Naruto was stronger during VOTE2, and you no longer think that?

Just making sure that's what you said because I didn't quite get the wording cause it was random.

Idk I was talking about paths and you asked a question. We just continued from there, nothing unusual


No I mean this whole thread is basically about the VOTE2 battle.

Yes I said Naruto was the stronger of the two at VOTE2. 15 years has passed and i no longer think naruto is stronger..

We are talking about paths all because of the battle at VOTE2.
 

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Stop twisting my words. I didn't say that. I said based off your dumb logic, Naruto was handicapped against Sasuke because he didn't use an ability that he wasn't familiar with. Knowing and seeing a tech =/= being experienced with it

Lol when Naruto can ask Karuma for chakra and he gives it, that's pretty familiar to me. Baseless claim here, or bad example.. Which ever you prefer.
 

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Lol when Naruto can ask Karuma for chakra and he gives it, that's pretty familiar to me. Baseless claim here, or bad example.. Which ever you prefer.

So we see Naruto shooting TBB?

An ability given after he became experienced with Kurama so no, Naruto was not experienced with Kurama. Just because you know one component of an abilities, doesn't mean you know how to utilize it fully.

If you saw my last post and not skipped I stated Knowing a tech =/= being experienced with it. Sasuke saw Amateratsu, he used Amateratsu on Obito but was not experienced with it. Does that mean he was handicapped? No
 

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That's like saying Sasuke was handicapped against KB because his MS was immature

No. It is like saying that MS Sasuke was new to his abilities so he found a way to get more power.

When u get the power to compete then u are no longer handicapped :|

U guys say that Naruto was inexperienced as well, but just think about it comparing his inexperience to Sasuke's whose lack of experience effected them more in battle?

The only worth while offensive jutsu Sasuke had gained was Ameno and CT.
My noting Sasuke's disadvantage was only to show that he was out matched and y he sought out more power. Not to say that he was nerfed

Now if u all would excuse me this is all i can post for now. I have stuff to do.
 

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So we see Naruto shooting TBB?

An ability given after he became experienced with Kurama so no, Naruto was not experienced with Kurama. Just because you know one component of an abilities, doesn't mean you know how to utilize it fully.

If you saw my last post and not skipped I stated Knowing a tech =/= being experienced with it. Sasuke saw Amateratsu, he used Amateratsu on Obito but was not experienced with it. Does that mean he was handicapped? No

Lol omg you are like reaching for the starts now.. Naruto couldn't use TBB WHEN HE FOUGHT SASUKE ON THE ROOF.. I fact it took naruto another 4 years to master that.. So as said your examples are terrible.
 

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No. It is like saying that MS Sasuke was new to his abilities so he found a way to get more power.

When u get the power to compete then u are no longer handicapped :|

U guys say that Naruto was inexperienced as well, but just think about it comparing his inexperience to Sasuke's whose lack of experience effected them more in battle?

The only worth while offensive jutsu Sasuke had gained was Ameno and CT.
My noting Sasuke's disadvantage was only to show that he was out matched and y he sought out more power. Not to say that he was nerfed

Now if u all would excuse me this is all i can post for now. I have stuff to do.

1. You stated Sasuke was handicapped because he didn't utilize all the paths. I'm telling you that he wasn't. He was in the same boat as Naruto. Just because a character is new to their abilities and doesn't utlize them in the way the could used at their full potential does not mean they are handicapped. It means they are inexperienced

2. Umm no, it's called being weaker


3. The point is that they were both inexperienced, you're making it seem (once again) like Sasuke was handicapped. If you acknowledge that Naruto holding back was his version of being hadicapped, then essentially both of them being handicapped cancels out

4. Rinnegan users gain all the paths ablities and all but one are just as deadly as the other
 
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Naruto=Sasuke

This plain and simple fact has been displayed throughout the manga many times over. No matter what happens or who seems to be above before when Naruto and Sasuke have a serious fight or even when they both share a stage plot always finds a way to make Yin = Yang.

VoTE 1 was the perfect example.

Naruto w/ Rasengan> Sasuke w/ Chidori so Sasuke gets CM power up.
Sasuke w/ CM power up and 2T> Naruto w/ Rasengan so Naruto gets more Kyuubi chakra
Naruto w/ more Kyuubi chakra >Sasuke w/ CM power up and 2T so Sasuke awakens 3T
3T Sasuke> Naruto w/ More Kyuubi chakra so Naruto gets 1 Tailed Cloak
In the end 3T CM lv2 Sasuke= One Tailed KC Naruto

VoTE 2

RSM Naruto with 9 bijuu> Sasuke with immature rinnegan and little experience so Sasuke gets bijuu power up.
Battle ends with them both on the ground unable to move on deaths door. :|

Equal

So now in the future with no power ups left to be had Naruto's personal full power = Sasuke's personal full power.

Y can't fanboys and girls just accept this fact and move on? :|

I can understand what you are saying. Naruto and Sasuke are mostly equal. But the fact is, that Naruto defeated Sasuke when they fought at the Valley of the End.

Naruto was fighting Sasuke who took the power of all Bijuu.

He didn't want to kill Sasuke. And he still managed to knock him out. He also woke up before Sasuke. And after Sasuke woke up, he still had will to fight.

And after Naruto told him he still had will to fight, Sasuke himself admitted he lost.
 

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Yeah so you're obviously retarded, learn how to read. I said seeing and knowing about =/= being experienced with it or mastering it. Saying Sasuke was handicapped against Killer Bee when he was put near death twice after he saw and used Amateratsu is like saying Naruto was handicapped on top of the hospital even though he used Kurama's chakara against Neji
Reported.. Calling names only proves you have a weak point and I'm not going to deal with it.
 

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No counter...

Counter to naruto not being able to use TBB on the rooftop when he battle Sasuke? You're right..

But I'm sure I can continue to counter all yours just as long as you continue to show respect.
 

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lmao this thread

The fact of the matter is, Naruto's strongest techniques came from SM and Kurama (not trace amounts of chakra from other Bijuu :lol). Sasuke simply could not match it so he had utilize the chakra of the other 8.5 bijuu. This supposed "immature" rinnegan played little to no role in that fight, Sasuke clearly got a handle of his abilities through fighting Madara and Kaguya and used his strongest ability through Indra's arrow which led to a stalemate (which he could not do without the bijuu chakra).


Also, people need to remember that Naruto and Kurama exhausted most of their chakra throughout the war before the fight even started, so much so that the most powerful Bijuu (which is said to have infinite amount of chakra) had to go to sleep! Where were the other Bijuu to replenish Naruto at that point? :lol

If Naruto had even a little extra chakra to form an oodama rasengan instead of the puny one he could muster at the end of VoTE 2.0, Sasuke could quite possibly have died.



the infinite chakra thing is obviously hyperbole but I'm pretty sure of it being stated somewhere in the series, will look for it if I have time.
 
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So you're telling me that if Naruto integrated the TB chakara with his final attack against Sasuke they would have stalemated? When they already tied without the TB chakra?

3. Naruto wasn't fully experienced with the TSB nor was he experienced with the TB, stop trying to make it seem like Naruto was experienced with both these things
Sorry, had to answer #2. Naruto would have lost if he did anything other than what he used against Indra's arrow. Wind> Lightning and the Kyuubi is the strongest TB chakra
 

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Sorry, had to answer #2. Naruto would have lost if he did anything other than what he used against Indra's arrow. Wind> Lightning and the Kyuubi is the strongest TB chakra

Not to mention Senjutsu
 

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Sorry, had to answer #2. Naruto would have lost if he did anything other than what he used against Indra's arrow. Wind> Lightning and the Kyuubi is the strongest TB chakra

You misunderstood what I said. I stated that if he added TB chakara or KKG to his final attack
 
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