Fanboys Just Can't Accept It

[ANiMUS]

And you just based on nothin again ?
Yea i can say nope bla bla bla and it count as manga fact ?

U asked and I answered. My stance has been stated already so if u oppose me I was hoping u would bring some new Intel to light

 

[DHOH]

That is a nine hand with his free will....

Um you mean a downgraded version of RSM, no. It was Karuma's chakra.

 

[lndra]

I never said Naruto mastered his abilities (Naruto never would have used his RSM to its full ability if u take part records into account) it just that it didn't hinder him in rsm's usage :|

Naruto will always stick to his staples which are rasengan and Rasenshuriken. Thanks to his gifts these moves weren't hindered at all

Doesn't make VOTE2 Naruto stronger than RSM Naruto currently.

All I see is RSM Naruto vs Limited Rinnegan Sasuke

and then I just expect the same to go both ways since this some equal thread :lol

 

[00Rinne]

So people seem to think that a 1 armed Sasuke can beat a Rikudou powered Naruto. Ok! If a 2 armed Sasuke couldn't finish him off with rinnegan and 2 arms...what makes people think that a handy cap Sasuke can beat him. With the mastery over rinnegan or not he is not beating Rikudou Naruto no matter how many techs he has with those eyes.

People can give him powers he don't have or never will have to say he can keep up with Naruto. why? because Kishi don't want flame wars from the two character fan bases so he said equal (to me that's why he put the yin/yang thang in there because they cancel each other out..was the only way to explain that to children with little understanding about life). When it all boils down to it...Naruto is the strongest there is in NV Point blank period.

There are threads everyday with people trying to prove Sasuke's superior to Naruto in every way...but when Naruto is better or stronger than Sasuke at something it's all way's Nah.... there equal! Kishi said so.

 

[-Akuma-]

Naruto is stronger damn it isn't ****ing hard to admit...damn

 

[ANiMUS]

Doesn't make VOTE2 Naruto stronger than RSM Naruto currently.

All I see is RSM Naruto vs Limited Rinnegan Sasuke

and then I just expect the same to go both ways since this some equal thread :lol

Like I said I don't see how Naruto was hindered. He was able to do everything he normally would anyway :|

Also u should reread this

He was, but that is y he took on bijuu chakra in the first place :| Not only that Naruto didn't use any of his other bijuu abilities. The only difference was fire power which the bijuu chakra remedied. If anything Sasuke had the upper hand

I clearly stated that even though Sasuke was limited he turned things around in his favor. Seriously what is the point of arguing on this?

 

[00Rinne]

Naruto is stronger damn it isn't ****ing hard to admit...damn

Preach!!

 

[Aznkidd]

Um you mean a downgraded version of RSM, no. It was Karuma's chakra.

Whether it was enchanced or not is still unknown, no need to make a false claim...again.

The topic from further arguement is whether Naruto completely mastered everything with rsm right away or not compare to little trained sharinnegan.

Here is how i destroy all your claim with actual manga fact.

Naruto didnt know back then that he can fly.
Naruto didnt know the detail how the creation of all thing work, he just did it with his instinct, not fully mastered yet.
Naruto didnt know how to shape form of black orb back then to use as a shield like a rsm user.

Those 3 points alone to destroy your theory about fully mastered rsm user vs little knowlegde trained sharinnegan.
They clearly act on their instinct but not fully mastered with new powers. We havent know if Naruto is fully mastered rsm now or not, that is up to the movie or future project.

 

[DHOH]

Whether it was enchanced or not is still unknown, no need to make a false claim...again.

The topic from further arguement is whether Naruto completely mastered everything with rsm right away or not compare to little trained sharinnegan.

Here is how i destroy all your claim with actual manga fact.

Naruto didnt know back then that he can fly.
Naruto didnt know the detail how the creation of all thing work, he just did it with his instinct, not fully mastered yet.
Naruto didnt know how to shape form of black orb back then to use as a shield like a rsm user.

Those 3 points alone to destroy your theory about fully mastered rsm user vs little knowlegde trained sharinnegan.
They clearly act on their instinct but not fully mastered with new powers. We havent know if Naruto is fully mastered rsm now or not, that is up to the movie or future project.

Are you implying Naruto made nine chakra arms with his character and not the kyuubi?

Lol I d think no one said he mastered anything.. So yea.

You are correct he didn't know how to fly.. He also did train(COK)
COK
COK

Lol I fact those three points futher prove my claim.. Um thanks.

 

[ANiMUS]

Whether it was enchanced or not is still unknown, no need to make a false claim...again.

The topic from further arguement is whether Naruto completely mastered everything with rsm right away or not compare to little trained sharinnegan.

Here is how i destroy all your claim with actual manga fact.

Naruto didnt know back then that he can fly.
Naruto didnt know the detail how the creation of all thing work, he just did it with his instinct, not fully mastered yet.
Naruto didnt know how to shape form of black orb back then to use as a shield like a rsm user.

Those 3 points alone to destroy your theory about fully mastered rsm user vs little knowlegde trained sharinnegan.
They clearly act on their instinct but not fully mastered with new powers. We havent know if Naruto is fully mastered rsm now or not, that is up to the movie or future project.

No one said anything about Naruto mastering RSM there is alway room for improvement and 2 out of 3 things u mentioned actually hurt your case seeing how Naruto could still fly and use COAT by pure instinct. (hence Naruto wasn't hindered)
As for the not being able to manipulate the TSB that was probably because he lacked the rinnegan. Rinnegan provides all elements, but Naruto only has wind on his own. :| he gets the other chakras directly from the bijuus

 

[Narujesus]

Sasuke admitted he LOST to Naruto, and still Sasukebase said he's as strong or stronger than Naruto.

I'm pretty sure even in the future if their 'lord' Sasuke said he LOST to Naruto 3 more times, Sasukebase would still deny.
They will deny until Kishi change the series name to Sasuke Shippuden/Gaiden/etc =D

 

[ANiMUS]

Sasuke admitted he LOST to Naruto, and still Sasukebase said he's as strong or stronger than Naruto.

I'm pretty sure even in the future if their 'lord' Sasuke said he LOST to Naruto 3 more times, Sasukebase would still deny.
They will deny until Kishi change the series name to Sasuke Shippuden/Gaiden/etc =D

Kishimoto is the one that said Sasuke is equal. I am only going by what the author said. He would know a lot more than u do.

 

[ComplexCity]

How was Naruto still getting used to his abilities to the point where it seriously hindered his performance?

I don't understand your question. You are implying that Sasuke was hindered but his intent was to kill Naruto. If anything, Naruto was the one holding back so if anyone was being hindered it was him. Another reason why I don't understand you response is because like I stated before, they both were getting used to their powers (as also shown by the previous scan you posted). You cannot surely expect Sasuke to be hindered when he was not fully knowledgeable of all the abilities. That's like saying Sasuke was hindered against Killer Bee being near death twice because he was getting used to his MS. I don't feel either of them were hindered by their newly given power, I do feel Naruto hindered himself due to his ideal. But in response to your question I feel Naruto

- Could have used TSB better offensively and defensively
- Use the TB chakara and KKG's to his advantage

Though again, I don't feel like Naruto was hindered because of his newfound power

 

[DHOH]

Sasuke admitted he LOST to Naruto, and still Sasukebase said he's as strong or stronger than Naruto.

I'm pretty sure even in the future if their 'lord' Sasuke said he LOST to Naruto 3 more times, Sasukebase would still deny.
They will deny until Kishi change the series name to Sasuke Shippuden/Gaiden/etc =D

Why are you 15 years behind.. We are in Gadien now lol.

 

[Aznkidd]

No one said anything about Naruto mastering RSM there is alway room for improvement and 2 out of 3 things u mentioned actually hurt your case seeing how Naruto could still fly and use COAT by pure instinct. (hence Naruto wasn't hindered)
As for the not being able to manipulate the TSB that was probably because he lacked the rinnegan. Rinnegan provides all elements, but Naruto only has wind on his own. :| he gets the other chakras directly from the bijuus

Still make claims that based on no manga fact ?
Battle on his instinct =/= fully mastered as how you described.
You claim that Naruto has upper hand because his new power doesnt need to train much when Sasuke sharinnegan needed to train more.

When in fact battle with instinct is not upper hand when he can do so much more with his rsm, just like Sasuke can do so much more with his, not to even mentioned that he has quite of time to test his power as manga fact in sand dimension.

You see, i only follow manga fact, not blind assumption.

 

[lndra]

Like I said I don't see how Naruto was hindered. He was able to do everything he normally would anyway :|

Also u should reread this

I clearly stated that even though Sasuke was limited he turned things around in his favor. Seriously what is the point of arguing on this?

I just said it doesn't matter if he was hindered or not, so wasn't Sasuke. He used quite a lot of path techniques.

My count is: PP, OP, BT, CT, and Ameno.

Naruto only used; Clones, and TSB.

Everything else was in the PS/Kurama Avatar fight :l

Not counting their base forms fight on the ground either.

 

[DHOH]

I just said it doesn't matter if he was hindered or not, so wasn't Sasuke. He used quite a lot of path techniques.

My count is: PP, OP, BT, CT, and Ameno.

Naruto only used; Clones, and TSB.

Everything else was in the PS/Kurama Avatar fight :l

Not counting their base forms fight on the ground either.

Four out of 10 is great odds.

 

[ANiMUS]

I don't understand your question. You are implying that Sasuke was hindered but his intent was to kill Naruto. If anything, Naruto was the one holding back so if anyone was being hindered it was him. Another reason why I don't understand you response is because like I stated before, they both were getting used to their powers (as also shown by the previous scan you posted). You cannot surely expect Sasuke to be hindered when he was not fully knowledgeable of all the abilities. That's like saying Sasuke was hindered against Killer Bee being near death twice because he was getting used to his MS. I don't feel either of them were hindered by their newly given power, I do feel Naruto hindered himself due to his ideal. But in response to your question I feel Naruto

- Could have used TSB better offensively and defensively
- Use the TB chakara and KKG's to his advantage

Though again, I don't feel like Naruto was hindered because of his newfound power

I think Naruto's TSB was limited because of another reason, but I at least get where u r coming from now so I can answer u probably.

First go back to my first response I remember telling you that the situation was in Sasuke's favor anyway. And I also alreasy stated that even though Naruto could use the TB chakra he didn't so that advantage is nulled. I don't believe Naruto suffered at all because his powers were new, but simply nerfed himself because he was holding back (or the rinnegan genjutsu cut his connection to the bijuu.

Sasuke not knowing most of his techniques=Naruto not using TB chakra does that sound about right?

 

[lndra]

Four out of 10 is great odds.

I believe there are six paths right? Why they call them Six Paths of Pain?

 

[Aznkidd]

Four out of 10 is great odds.

And you suggest after launched the best attack ever he should had more chakra to execute all and every other jutsu ?