EMS Madara vs 3rd Raikage

[NarutoX28]

My question is why Orochimaru would be searching for the Totsuka Blade if it couldn't be scaled down to fit the user's capabilities?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No, my evidence is more than concrete. Totsuka can't be used in v2? Check. Sasuke created a sword on his first Susano usage? Check. Sasuke's exclusive weapon is NOT a sword but rather a bow? Check. Itachi has a dagger exclusively but can create a sword due to his higher level of Susano proficiency? Check. Yea, my evidence>>>>>yours, as yours doesn't exist and is completely baseless.

I have 10 other wall of text that I have to reply to so Im not going to bother breaking down everything here from wall to wall. Some points aren't even worth replying since your outright using strawman.

Your claims that necessary scaling of Susanoo was necessary, which Orochimaru's claim debunks, check. Sasuke created a sword on his first Susano usage? Not irrelevant and doesnt begin to prove anything. Check. Sasuke's exclusive weapon is both a sword and a bow? Check. Both weapons are exclusive to Sasuke, fact, as Itachi nor Madara are capable of forming a sabre or bow, check. Itachi has a dagger exclusively but can create a sword due to his higher level of Susano proficiency? Nope no evidence that even begins to prove Itachi is superior usage of Susanoo to Sasuke, even then that still leaves no evidence that it can make anything he wants because he is better at using the jutsu, tell that to Madara who is > to both. Check. So nothing you are saying doesn't begin to prove your evidence is more concrete them mine.

 

[Apêx1]

I have 10 other wall of text that I have to reply to so Im not going to bother breaking down everything here from wall to wall. Some points aren't even worth replying since your outright using strawman.

Your claims that necessary scaling of Susanoo was necessary, which Orochimaru's claim debunks, check. Sasuke created a sword on his first Susano usage? Not irrelevant and doesnt begin to prove anything. Check. Sasuke's exclusive weapon is both a sword and a bow? Check. Both weapons are exclusive to Sasuke, fact, as Itachi nor Madara are capable of forming a sabre or bow, check. Itachi has a dagger exclusively but can create a sword due to his higher level of Susano proficiency? Nope no evidence that even begins to prove Itachi is superior usage of Susanoo to Sasuke, even then that still leaves no evidence that it can make anything he wants because he is better at using the jutsu, tell that to Madara who is > to both. Check. So nothing you are saying doesn't begin to prove your evidence is more concrete them mine.

@bold you're right
@underline Sasuke has 2 exclusive weapons? Clearly pulling shit out of your ass now,

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is a completely normal sword

The rest is bullshit and you failed to address the main part of the post, which is Sasuke having a sword when his bow is the only thing exclusive to him. Itachi is obviously more proficient with Susano as he had it for a long time, whereas that was Sasuke's first time ever. And yes, all evidence points towards my argument, NONE points towards yours. Period.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

@underline Sasuke has 2 exclusive weapons? Clearly pulling shit out of your ass now,

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is a completely normal sword

Lol no this is the same sword used against Kabuto and the same one, longer version with legged Susanoo. Just like how Madara can only keep his the same too in all Susanoo forms, bar PS.

The rest is bullshit and you failed to address the main part of the post, which is Sasuke having a sword when his bow is the only thing exclusive to him. Itachi is obviously more proficient with Susano as he had it for a long time, whereas that was Sasuke's first time ever. And yes, all evidence points towards my argument, NONE points towards yours. Period.

The rest isnt BS as the main arugment is to prove that since Sasuke can make his own sword, then Itachi can too, despite everyone showing to create different weapons on their persona. So time events of the caster jutsu is irrelevant, as Susanoo reflects on the character, fact. Your trying to pass it off as facts that Totsuka can only be wield in V3 and up despite Orochimaru stated he is capable of wielding it if he would have found it, so size argument is completely irrelevant

All evidence points in zero directs towards you.

 

[Apêx1]

Lol no this is the same sword used against Kabuto and the same one, longer version with legged Susanoo. Just like how Madara can only keep his the same too in all Susanoo forms, bar PS.

Umm what? Sasuke used Enton sword against Kabuto's webs. After that he used his sword. Only because Sasuke had more panel time doesn't mean he had another exclusive sword. You can either a) prove Sasuke's sword is exclusive to only him which makes no sense, b) concede. No reason for me to believe anything other than bow and arrow are exclusive, so you have some explaining to do, lots of it.

The rest isnt BS as the main arugment is to prove that since Sasuke can make his own sword, then Itachi can too, despite everyone showing to create different weapons on their persona. So time events of the caster jutsu is irrelevant, as Susanoo reflects on the character, fact. Your trying to pass it off as facts that Totsuka can only be wield in V3 and up despite Orochimaru stated he is capable of wielding it if he would have found it, so size argument is completely irrelevant

All evidence points in zero directs towards you.

Itachi has only shown to create a dagger. Doesn't mean he can't create anything else. Lack of panl time doesn't mean we can't implicatively give him a sword when Sasuke has used one too (which isn't exclusive until you can give CONCRETE proof of it being exclusive). How does jutsu reflecting on character mean that he can't build a fukin sword lmao. Must be some of the shittiest arguments I've ever seen you make. And again, it's only ever been shown in v3 to v4. v2=no yata [

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]. Turn to v3, yata forms alongside the armor [

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]. Clearly it is set to activate when v3+ are up.

Anyways, it's clear you have no argument and the only reason you are even trying is because you don't want Kabuto's bones to be underrated lmao. Prove the sword is exclusive now with FACTS, not another of your bullshit 'because I said so' arguments.

 

[Strict]

Numpsay told us that the Anime is a legit source despite of filler. So a debate makes no sense.

 

[darthvader5666]

Madara's hair solos.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Numpsay told us that the Anime is a legit source despite of filler. So a debate makes no sense.

Also argues that absolutely nothing can hurt Kabutos version of liquidfication. Even PS slash, Bijudama, or Raiton

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Numpsay told us that the Anime is a legit source despite of filler. So a debate makes no sense.

Why you still crying Dawson. The strawman wasn't necessary for "cool" points/likes. But I guess you needed it.

Also argues that absolutely nothing can hurt Kabutos version of liquidfication. Even PS slash, Bijudama, or Raiton

Lol can't wait till you prove that I said that. Only thing I know I said was about Raiton, which shouldn't even been denied by you or anyone who disagrees. Manga outright stats Kabuto uses his own body fluids, which we seen multiple of times, that Raiton doesn't react to(depending on the priorities of the Raiton jutsu)

Otherwise dont come here riding folks.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Lol can't wait till you prove that I said that. Only thing I know I said was about Raiton, which shouldn't even been denied by you or anyone who disagrees. Manga outright stats Kabuto uses his own body fluids, which we seen multiple of times, that Raiton doesn't react to(depending on the priorities of the Raiton jutsu)

Otherwise dont come here riding folks.

Ill find that debate you had with DSM Kabuto vs Edo Madara sometime later today. I remember you trying to use that arugment against me and KG too

 

[Imperious]

Madara wins.

Granted, EMS Madara doesn't have very many feats at the moment, but what he did show was

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Even when preoccupied by Mei's lava, he still noticed Raikage charging at him, and successfully parried the blow.

That is important, and is one of the factors that secures his victory here. Furthermore,

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, provides a useful offensive attack. Join that with Madara's impressive reflexes, base genjutsu, and ability to rest inside Susanoo, and his victory is almost guaranteed here.

Madara only has five techniques, but the Raikage has even less. Contrary to popular opinion, speed isn't everything. That's why our Uchiha wins.

 

[KingHashirama]

Numpsay told us that the Anime is a legit source despite of filler. So a debate makes no sense.

from what i recall, he stated the canon content in the anime is valid, if that content is in the manga. Which he is right about, unless you are telling me you are able to judge speed on still pictures.

The anime will make more clarifications in the canon content of the series, than the anime will.

 

[Strict]

from what i recall, he stated the canon content in the anime is valid, if that content is in the manga. Which he is right about, unless you are telling me you are able to judge speed on still pictures.

The anime will make more clarifications in the canon content of the series, than the anime will.

Your point? The speed and skills of an character is determined by his actions in the Manga and the hype about it. If a character is told to be fast, he is. The Anime is only an animated version of the Manga, it implements speed as it was hyped to be in the Manga.

And that wasn't my point anyway so I don't understand what you try to tell me. He said that Itachi used the Totsuka blade to cut Kimimaro's bones, as it was shown in the Anime. It wasn't shown in the Manga however, which means that the Anime is invalid. Period.

 

[Imperious]

@bold you're right
@underline Sasuke has 2 exclusive weapons? Clearly pulling shit out of your ass now,

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is a completely normal swordThe rest is bullshit and you failed to address the main part of the post, which is Sasuke having a sword when his bow is the only thing exclusive to him. Itachi is obviously more proficient with Susano as he had it for a long time, whereas that was Sasuke's first time ever. And yes, all evidence points towards my argument, none points towards yours. Period.

Lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Why you still crying Dawson. The strawman wasn't necessary for "cool" points/likes. But I guess you needed it.



Lol can't wait till you prove that I said that. Only thing I know I said was about Raiton, which shouldn't even been denied by you or anyone who disagrees. Manga outright stats Kabuto uses his own body fluids, which we seen multiple of times, that Raiton doesn't react to(depending on the priorities of the Raiton jutsu)

Otherwise dont come here riding folks.

Lmao. The butthurt.

 

[Rιver]

Your point? The speed and skills of an character is determined by his actions in the Manga and the hype about it. If a character is told to be fast, he is. The Anime is only an animated version of the Manga, it implements speed as it was hyped to be in the Manga.

And that wasn't my point anyway so I don't understand what you try to tell me. He said that Itachi used the Totsuka blade to cut Kimimaro's bones, as it was shown in the Anime. It wasn't shown in the Manga however, which means that the Anime is invalid. Period.

Er versteht nicht, zu dumm lol.

 

[TRE MERCER]

KingHashirama finally won a debate l0l.​