Rinnegan or rsm

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What needs more skill ?

After the fight with Naruto sasuke Said He if He died give the rinnegan to kakashi He Can handle it


but Can kakashi handle bjuus and sm and so on too ?

What do u think ?
 

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rsm just enhances your abilities. Rinnegan requires knowledge and skill to use
 

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Both require as skillset to handle the chakra. Although RSM has an advantage due to it's universal comprehension property.
 

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Controlling the massive amounts of chakra Naruto can is probably more difficult than controlling the Rinnegan.

However, it all depends on the person using it.
rsm just enhances your abilities. Rinnegan requires knowledge and skill to use

So controlling 9 bijuus chakra and Senjutsu chakra takes no skill nor knowledge?
 
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Kakashi can handle rinnegan?!!! Sasuke was trying to kakashi if you do not already know
 

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RSM, not everyone can utilize Sage Mode, let alone RSM.

But we've seen Nagato, and Kakashi utilize dojutsu quite well.
 

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So controlling 9 bijuus chakra and Senjutsu chakra takes no skill nor knowledge?

not really, Naruto could do it, so could Madara and Obito..hell even Sasuke did. while Obito said the Rinnegan has overwhelming power he could not transplant both eyes and even one of them is hell for him.
 

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What do you think?
 

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not really, Naruto could do it, so could Madara and Obito..hell even Sasuke did. while Obito said the Rinnegan has overwhelming power he could not transplant both eyes and even one of them is hell for him.

And what happened when He became jin lol He lost his mind
 

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And what happened when He became jin lol He lost his mind

he regain consciousness eventually. the question TC asked was which requires more skill and the Rinnegan is the clear answer here
 

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So controlling 9 bijuus chakra and Senjutsu chakra takes no skill nor knowledge?

Look at what Senpou said.

RSM, not everyone can utilize Sage Mode, let alone RSM.

But we've seen Nagato, and Kakashi utilize dojutsu quite well.

Naruto already knew Sage Mode. RSM basically just powered up himself,and all the techniques he already had, whereas when Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan, he attained several new abilties that he had never used before, and had to learn/master. He didn't even use half of the Rinnegans Paths yet, the only new thing Naruto got was the Gudoudamas,and to a certain extent the Bijuus special powers, but he can only use them as long as he has their chakra, so i wouldn't count those as part if his arsenal like Shadow Clones,and Rasengan, which he can use anytime he wants.
 
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What do you think?

I think rsm its like looking to the right and left at the Same Time

Controlling all the Chakra + Handling nature chakra + at the Same Time a Strong Body to be Host + a Strong mind to handle diffrent voices in Ur Head lol


And Yeah the rinnegan u Can pass like a Joint lol
 

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Look at what Senpou said.



Naruto already knew Sage Mode. RSM basically just powered up himself,and all the techniques he already had, whereas when Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan, he attained several new abilties that he had never used before, and had to learn/master. He didn't even use half of the Rinnegans Paths yet, the only new thing Naruto got was the Gudoudamas,and to a certain extent the Bijuus special powers, but he can only use them as long as he has their chakra, so i wouldn't count those as part if his arsenal like Shadow Clones,and Rasengan, which he can use anytime he wants.

So in short rinnegan gives you abilities while in RSM you have to create/work for them?
 

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missing a lot of things...the rinnegan and RSM are both huge powers that only an incarnation of a member of the otsutsuki family caan control properly. Nagato is an uzumaki. I'd bet his chakra reserves are more than base naruto's. But yet his control of madara's rinnegan was poor. The abilities he displayed are almost nothing compared to someone like madara having both eyes. Naruto's also an uzumaki, who is the kyuubi's jinchuuriki. Though, just half of it was sealed in him almost his whole life. As ashura's incarnation he mastered senjutsu perfectly, and also mastered RSM, which used all bijuu chakra. But the reason why only an uzumaki can handle being kurama's host is the fact that they have the chakra strong enough to keep the sealing jutsu. A kyuubi jin with weak chakra would cause the kyuubi to break free easily. But when the bijuu chakra isn't "sealed" (forced down in a jin), just how it is now with naruto and kurama, then this doesn't apply. Because the threat of the bijuu going wild and taking over the host has being eliminated, the significance of the jin's chakra in keeping the bijuu chakra at rest becomes really low. Same applies to dojutsu. Kakashi had chakra control on the level of most high jounin before he turned 15. His usage of the sharingan was quite good, though he used more chakra than an uchiha would while using the sharingan, but he came quite close with practice. AND THIS WAS JUST ONE SHARINGAN. Obito who is an uchiha with hashirama's cells stuffed in him could only handle one rinnegan. He never displayed any key ability with it though. He became the juubi's jinchuuriki and almost lost his mind. madara became its jin and stayed the same. This shows the difference in chakra potency, madara was one who awakened the rinnegan, hence already was a reincarnation of the sage, and also indra. The reason sasuke said kakashi could handle the rinnegan was probably because part of obito's rikudou chakra was still in him, and would help stabilize it, or naruto would simply give him some rikudou chakra which would help him control it. And since RSM comes with all 9 bijuu, I'd say it takes their chakra from keeping the user sane. Just like how Kurama was able to absorb all that chakra at VOTE 2, I don't think Naruto himself would be able to do it WITH HIS OWN CHAKRA. natural energy needs about the same yin and yang energy to balance it, naruto would need a vast amount of chakra like kurama's to absorb that amount of energy. Proof: The amount of chakra naruto absorbed while going BSM against obito was much less, because sasuke never got concerned with the quantity of natural energy. This is because naruto was doing the absorbing thing himself.

My point is no one who isn't related to an ootsutsuki in some way can control rinnegan or RSM on madara's level. Madara is the only reincarnation to go really high on both. Any other shinobi would look pathetic
 

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So in short rinnegan gives you abilities while in RSM you have to create/work for them?

You'd have to be pretty dense not to understand that. RSM basically just powered Naruto up, all the techniques he already had were boosted up. Whereas Sasuke was powered up aswell. All his techniques were boosted too but he also attained several new powers he had never used before so he had to learn how to use them.

It's really simple.

New Things Naruto got that he had to learn

-Gudoudamas

New things Sasuke got that he had to learn

-All the Rinnegans powers - All Six Paths,and Amenotejikara. The Kyuubi even noted how they were lucky Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan.

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You have to work for both, it's just that the Rinnegan itself has a larger arsenal than RSM. And with both of these powers the user can create new things, except again, the Rinnegan has more potential due allowing the user to use/learn/master any technique.

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You'd have to be pretty dense not to understand that. RSM basically just powered Naruto up, all the techniques he already had were boosted up. Whereas Sasuke was powered up aswell. All his techniques were boosted too but he also attained several new powers he had never used before so he had to learn how to use them.

It's really simple.

There are several skills to be learned with senjutsu, just look at Kabuto's jutsu, not that Naruto showcased those same skills, but his sennin allows him to utilize nature any way he wants, no different in RSM(though a stronger form), there is plenty to be explored, but hasn't.
 

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You'd have to be pretty dense not to understand that. RSM basically just powered Naruto up, all the techniques he already had were boosted up. Whereas Sasuke was powered up aswell. All his techniques were boosted too but he also attained several new powers he had never used before so he had to learn how to use them.

It's really simple.

New Things Naruto got that he had to learn

-Gudoudamas

New things Sasuke got that he had to learn

-All the Rinnegans powers - All Six Paths,and Amenotejikara. The Kyuubi even noted how they were lucky Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan.

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You have to work for both, it's just that the Rinnegan itself has a larger arsenal than RSM. And with both of these powers the user can create new things, except again, the Rinnegan has more potential due allowing the user to use/learn/master any technique.

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Yeah, but awakening eyes that allow you to learn any jutsu instantly really takes little to no skill, not bashing, just saying.
 

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Yeah, but awakening eyes that allow you to learn any jutsu instantly really takes little to no skill, not bashing, just saying.

The Sharingan allows the user to perfectly copy jutsu from seeing it just once. The Rinnegan doesn't. Nagato learned it quickly cause he's a genuis. The Rinnegan gives the user the potential to use any technique, the user has to learn them, they don't have instant mastery of it.

Otherwise Sasuke,Madara,Obito,Nagato,and Kaguya would have been tossing out all types of jutsu.
 

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The Sharingan allows the user to perfectly copy jutsu from seeing it just once. The Rinnegan doesn't. Nagato learned it quickly cause he's a genuis. The Rinnegan gives the user the potential to use any technique, the user has to learn them, they don't have instant mastery of it.

Otherwise Sasuke,Madara,Obito,Nagato,and Kaguya would have been tossing out all types of jutsu.

For people like Nagato, yes, there in no instant mastery of jutsu. But for Uchiha welders, it's quite easy to copy jutsu in sharigan state and enhance it in rinnegan form.
 
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