Can Naruto/Kurama break Sasuke's CT?

[shadowcb]

That can only work when nine tails's strength can overwhelm his opponent. Pain's strength was very weak against nine tails.

And sasuke can go toe to toe with nine tails in power

Sasuke and pain may have some same jutus, but their power and strength obviously differ greatly

1 - Sasuke can't match Kurama in power. He uses other way to deal with that power. That's why he used a genjutsu before he used CT on Kurama.

2 - This is Naruto/Kurama. Naruto can add natural energy to Kurama chakra greatly increasing it's power. Sasuke normally doesn't have access to all the tail beast.

 

[UltraPain]

It is obvious that if Kurama is the core, then he would only need to equal the inward force pressing against Kurama, by releasing an outward power such as BijuuDama, TB shockwave, and etc., to break it.

Wouldn't that TBB just get pulled back into him and explode if the pull was strong enough? Or if it isn't strong enough then the TBB would push through the gravity just like a space rocket leaving the earth's gravitational pull, but that wouldn't stop the gravitational source from continuing to pull.

 

[Narutrol]

1 - Sasuke can't match Kurama in power. He uses other way to deal with that power. That's why he used a genjutsu before he used CT on Kurama.

2 - This is Naruto/Kurama. Naruto can add natural energy to Kurama chakra greatly increasing it's power. Sasuke normally doesn't have access to all the tail beast.

1, ems + bsm vs jubito

2. Yin and yang

3. PS and bsm

4. Pschidori and bijuudama

5. Ps fuses with nine tails to be nine tails' armor

I'm not saying which is stronger here, but they are obviously comparable in power

 

[lndra]

Wouldn't that TBB just get pulled back into him and explode? Or it would be strong enough to push through the pull just like a space rocket leaving the earth's gravitational pull, but that wouldn't stop the gravitational source from pulling.

It wouldn't be one TBB because like you said, it would be pulled back to him. He would have to fire multiple TBB to pull off enough outward forces to remove the CT gravitational force on himself. Seeing how they are both Rikudou enhanced and Naruto has Full Kurama, it really is not that impossible.

 

[shadowcb]

Kurama is countering a shock wave that is being thrown at him from a separate source when that goes on, but how does he repel it when he is the actual source? Should he destroy himself? What we're trying to figure out is how he stops himself from having gravitational pull. Every example we have so far is from him stopping a separate source.

Because CT doesn't turn it's target into gravity. When Sasuke used it on all the tail beast their bodies didn't transform into gravity. The jutsu works by having gravity pull towards you in all directions. Kurama just need to release a equal or stronger outward force than inward force.

I say once again say why did Sasuke have to first place them in a genjutsu that restricted their movement if CT alone was enough. Answer: to stop them from escaping the CT.

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

Well sasuke's CT is OP but then naruto naruto can't be trapped by CT, he fought it twice and then sasuke would have to concentrate to create an extra extra large CT which will give naruto time to attack and kill him, CT is not a jutsu sasuke can/should use against naruto

 

[shadowcb]

1, ems + bsm vs jubito

2. Yin and yang

3. PS and bsm

4. Pschidori and bijuudama

5. Ps fuses with nine tails to be nine tails' armor

I'm not saying which is stronger here, but they are obviously comparable in power

Your post is flawed because that was senjutsu PS. Remember Sasuke was using Juugo natural energy to create a senjutsu PS.

 

[BSK]

That won't make a difference. He still will be able to repel gravity. Look at what Pain said "He withstood Shinra Tensei and turned the force of it on me instead" -

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- It doesn't matter who's the core because Kurama is countering gravity.

Almighty push lol I'm done

Naruto can now reverse his own gravitational pull it's official. we are done here

 

[BSK]

It is obvious that if Kurama is the core, then he would only need to equal the inward force pressing against Kurama, by releasing an outward power such as BijuuDama, TB shockwave, and etc., to break it.

Tbb would come flying back at him along with tons of rock and lets say he manage to get off a tbb it still would not stop his own gravitational pull.

 

[UltraPain]

Because CT doesn't turn it's target into gravity. When Sasuke used it on all the tail beast their bodies didn't transform into gravity. The jutsu works by having gravity pull towards you in all directions. Kurama just need to release a equal or stronger outward force than inward force.

I say once again say why did Sasuke have to first place them in a genjutsu that restricted their movement if CT alone was enough. Answer: to stop them from escaping the CT.

I had to double check in the manga really quick, but to me it looks like the bijuus were turned into the centers of gravity. Sasuke was able to levitate them off of the ground, and everything is being drawn to the bijuus since they are the core.

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The use of an outgoing force can temporarily stop the gravity but not permanently. It's like if we sent a large shockwave out from the earth. The core would still exist and would continue to generate a magnetic field and pull. The only way to stop it would be to destroy the large mass causing the gravity.

If the mass (Kurama)w as met with a much larger mass then naturally it would fall into the gravitational pull of the larger one, but none of Kurama's attacks can create gravity.

 

[lndra]

Tbb would come flying back at him along with tons of rock and lets say he manage to get off a tbb it still would not stop his own gravitational pull.

It would. It has to stop the inward force. You are acting like that is impossible or something, with a core can be broken.

 

[BSK]

It would. It has to stop the inward force. You are acting like that is impossible or something, with a core can be broken.

So naruto dies via tbb suicide

 

[Ansatsuken]

Do you think Naruto/Kurama can break Sasuke's CT? Rinnegan genjutsu won't permanently keep them down since Naruto is a perfect Jin, but it might gave Sasuke the jump on them.

Kurama's yang half was able to break Pain's CT at 8 tails pretty easily, and now that Kurama is back to full power he's twice as big and would easily bring more firepower than it took for Itachi, B, and to KM Naruto to break it.

Two oncerns for Naruto/Kurama are that Sasuke can absorb chakra while having them in CT, but we know that with Kurama's current full size that'll take a while to drain him out, or might not even be possible. The second issue is that Sasuke made 9 huge CT's but combined they could equal out to a massive one.

Its like you read my VM to Mad Titan Thanos and you made this thread.

 

[UltraPain]

Its like you read my VM to Mad Titan Thanos and you made this thread.

I didn't know that anyone else was discussing this stuff. What did u guys decide on it?

 

[Ansatsuken]

And yes current Naruto plus Kurama can break this CT but still take much time depends on the size of CT.

 

[UltraPain]

It would. It has to stop the inward force. You are acting like that is impossible or something, with a core can be broken.

But the inward force is being generated from Kurama, who is acting as the mass.

The only thing that can permanently overpower gravity is a larger source of gravity, but none of Kurama's abilities can generate that.

An exterior blast would either be deflected by the gravitational mass' magnetic field (if the blast isn't strong enough) or it would puncture through and damage/destroy the mass. Its like how the earth handles solar flares.

 

[shelke]

No. I cannot believe comparisons to Nagato are being made, when Sasuke's CT was far more advanced than JJ Madara's. When Naruto becomes the core himself, it means he is the one attracting the objects and debris to himself. He breaks out, then what? It means him being a core is some how cancelled or overcome? He would start attracting more debris and then he tries to break it out, it's rinse and repeat.

There is a monumental difference between a CT that has a core, something that can be destroyed, and the target that itself becomes a core. To destroy the CT, you have to destroy the core. What's Naruto destroying then? Himself? That makes a lot of sense.

Also, he isn't breaking out of Rinnegan genjutsu that shocked the sage. I'll believe it when I see it, when it's canon manga knowledge that Yagura was controlled for years and it was outright stated by Naruto that Bee or himself wouldn't be able to break out of Tsukuyomi.

Nothing but assumptions.

 

[lndra]

But the inward force is being generated from Kurama, who is acting as the mass.

The only thing that can permanently overpower gravity is a larger source of gravity, but none of Kurama's abilities can generate that.

An exterior blast would either be deflected by the gravitational mass' magnetic field (if the blast isn't strong enough) or it would puncture through and damage/destroy the mass. Its like how the earth handles solar flares.

Not really. Do you know how powerful a standard TB was for one normal Bijuu? It was mountain sized in terms of power, and Kurama stalemated that with half of his true power.

Kurama being able to overpower that gravity source is nothing short of how strong Kurama is. Multiple TBB which created from a Full Kurama Rikudou enhanced being can without a doubt break a CT with his body being as a core. This is stating the fact whether or not Sasuke can even land it, which he can't without using core CT.

So naruto dies via tbb suicide

Multiple TBB is enough, regular TBB is not hurting his KA avatar. You should know what it is able to tank, a Juubi Laser for crying at loud back at BM mode which is WAY Below BSM, and Rikudou enhanced KM.

 

[UltraPain]

Not really. Do you know how powerful a standard TB was for one normal Bijuu? It was mountain sized in terms of power, and Kurama stalemated that with half of his true power.

Kurama being able to overpower that gravity source is nothing short of how strong Kurama is. Multiple TBB which created from a Full Kurama Rikudou enhanced being can without a doubt break a CT with his body being as a core. This is stating the fact whether or not Sasuke can even land it, which he can't without using core CT.


Multiple TBB is enough, regular TBB is not hurting his KA avatar. You should know what it is able to tank, a Juubi Laser for crying at loud back at BM mode which is WAY Below BSM, and Rikudou enhanced KM.

But either way his TBB has no gravitational pull, so no matter how strong of an attack he sends out it still isn't stopping him from being a gravitational core.

Explosive energy and gravity have different properties. Explosions do not stop gravity unless the gravitational mass is destroyed. There's no other way around this.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I didn't know that anyone else was discussing this stuff. What did u guys decide on it?

Its started from his thread "Sasuke and Naruto strength". I said to him Sasuke put Kurama in Genjutsu and Solo clap him GG.

And after that he VM me and said Kishi disagree on Sasuke putting Naruto on genjutsu. He show me Killer Bee panel.

And then I replied back to him. Below the link.

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And our conversation end after that.