Sasuke vs Itachi power table

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Take into account what Sasuke went through earlier that day. Battled Raikage and Co. (multiple Amaterasu uses, ribcage Susanoo, genjutsu and chidori). Battled Gaara and Co. (V2 Susanoo, multiple Amaterasu uses). Battled Mei (ribcage Susanoo, suffered painful burns due to acidic mist). That's more than crow clones, one use of Tsukuyomi, a couple uses of Amaterasu and some 3 tomoe genjutsu/katons. Sure Karin healed him but not enough to restore his stamina completely when she to heal Sasuke's chest wound when all she had done earlier was .

And then Sasuke proceeded to spam Susanoo during his fight with Danzo.

You can't compare that to the amount of time Karin was given to heal Sasuke in order to prepare for the Danzo fight though.




-He used 1 regular Sharingan Genjutsu, and then he used Tsukuyomi. He never used Genjutsu 3 times.


That's the end of Genjutsu 1, and this is the beginning of Tsukuyomi.


There's no Genjutsu battle after this, and everything before page 16 of 386 was one big Genjutsu battle.

It wasn't one big genjutsu battle. Itachi , and Zetsu sees it [ ] so that was reality. Furthermore, we see Itachi's real , which indicates they were no longer fighting each other with genjutsu at that moment. So then I suppose you can say it was really 2 different genjutsu's used.

KidGamer65 said:
-Yup. He did use a Crow Clone.

-Did use 2 Amaterasu and 2 Katon.

At a large scale that completely engulfed Sasuke's Katon, and then at a long succession that light up nearly half the entire Uchiha hideout.

KidGamer65 said:
But after hat, the MS techs being the most consuming out of all the jutsu he managed to have Susanoo up for 5-10 at most.

Forgot to mention that Kirin obliterated, what I'm assuming was Itachi's V2 susano'o (since that's what he activated after getting back up). So he had to remanifest another V2 susano'o, which should require even more chakra since the last one was completely erased from existence.

KidGamer65 said:
Sasuke used Genjutsu against Danzo twice. He used Amaterasu while holding Susanoo up. Before that he had his V1 (briefly) and V2 Susanoo up. Then he summoned his hawk. After Danzo , he had Susanoo up till . Given the amount of eyes open at the and of this sequence, I can say that Sasuke had his up for a good 5 minutes. Not including everything that happened before. Then he hit him with a Chidori Spear and a Genjutsu. And he still had chakra left, albeit not much. While Itachi used Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, a crow clone, and a regular Genjutsu beforehand, the main things that'd consume chakra are the MS techs. Who knows how much crow clones use, but I don't think it's anywhere near 50%. Susanoo should use more, and that's what Sasuke relied on practically the whole fight.

In regards to how much chakra the Karasu Bunshin takes... We know that Kage Bunshins require 50% of chakra, while Mizu Bunshins require 10%. Karasu Bunshins were compared to Kage Bunshins in the DB, rather then Mizu Bunshins, so I think it's safe to assume that the chakra usage is closer to that of a Kage Bunshin rather then a Mizu Bunshin. Furthermore to reinforce this assumption, Mizu Bunshins were stated to not be able to move far away from the original, while Kage Bunshins can practically move any distance away from the original. Much like the Kage Bunshin, Itachi's Karasu Bunshins seemed to have no range restriction seeing how far it was away from the original. So we definitely know it's more then 10%, but less then 50%... but closer to the latter rather then the former. Still quite a hefty price in chakra, I'd say.

So here's the comparison.

-Both used genjutsu twice (Itachi's both were at a longer duration)
-Both used elemental jutsu a few times
-Sasuke used a small scale amaterasu once (while maintaining susano'o), Itachi used it twice at a large scale (then sealed another one in Sasuke, so 3 times)
-Sasuke summoned his hawk (He summoned Manda before while completely depleted)
-Itachi used Tsukiyomi
-Itachi used a Karasu Bunshin (Definitely a lot more then 10%, but less then 50%)


Susano'o aside, Itachi's chakra usage here definitely outweighs Sasuke's by a rather large margin.

-Itachi assumably used V2 susano'o and it got completely obliterated and the chakra was erased. Itachi reactivates his susano'o and then maintained his highest version of susano'o for the majority of the time until his terminal sickness unexpectedly started to really take it's toll on him [ ], which forced him to drop it down a level. Mind you this niga is literally stumbling towards Sasuke slow as shit... but he didn't deactivate Susano'o until . That's two whole solid chapters of straight high level susano'o usage. Maybe you can point out Sasuke's more precisely, but I'm still convinced Itachi has the better stamina feats.

KidGamer65 said:
Itachi used 3 Crow Clones, but like I said above, I'm pretty sure that the time in between Sasuke finding the fake clone and Sasuke meeting the real Itachi should be more than enough time to recover that chakra. Even more so considering we'd be measuring the moment the clone was used, to the moment Sasuke arrived. It's not like Itachi did anything.

Yeah, I'll just discard that point.
 

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Speed -Itachi
Physical strength -Equal
Reactions -Itachi
Shurikenjutsu -Itachi
Genjutsu -Itachi
Skill with katon (excluding black flames) -Sasuke
Skill with Amaterasu -Sasuke
Raw power -Sasuke
Stamina -Sasuke
Pain tolerance -Equal
Versatility -Sasuke
Susanoo durability -Itachi
Susanoo offensive power -Sasuke
Yasaka Magatamas vs Susanoo arrows -Arrows
 

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You can't compare that to the amount of time Karin was given to heal Sasuke in order to prepare for the Danzo fight though.






It wasn't one big genjutsu battle. Itachi , and Zetsu sees it [ ] so that was reality. Furthermore, we see Itachi's real , which indicates they were no longer fighting each other with genjutsu at that moment. So then I suppose you can say it was really 2 different genjutsu's used.



At a large scale that completely engulfed Sasuke's Katon, and then at a long succession that light up nearly half the entire Uchiha hideout.



Forgot to mention that Kirin obliterated, what I'm assuming was Itachi's V2 susano'o (since that's what he activated after getting back up). So he had to remanifest another V2 susano'o, which should require even more chakra since the last one was completely erased from existence.



In regards to how much chakra the Karasu Bunshin takes... We know that Kage Bunshins require 50% of chakra, while Mizu Bunshins require 10%. Karasu Bunshins were compared to Kage Bunshins in the DB, rather then Mizu Bunshins, so I think it's safe to assume that the chakra usage is closer to that of a Kage Bunshin rather then a Mizu Bunshin. Furthermore to reinforce this assumption, Mizu Bunshins were stated to not be able to move far away from the original, while Kage Bunshins can practically move any distance away from the original. Much like the Kage Bunshin, Itachi's Karasu Bunshins seemed to have no range restriction seeing how far it was away from the original. So we definitely know it's more then 10%, but less then 50%... but closer to the latter rather then the former. Still quite a hefty price in chakra, I'd say.

So here's the comparison.

-Both used genjutsu twice (Itachi's both were at a longer duration)
-Both used elemental jutsu a few times
-Sasuke used a small scale amaterasu once (while maintaining susano'o), Itachi used it twice at a large scale (then sealed another one in Sasuke, so 3 times)
-Sasuke summoned his hawk (He summoned Manda before while completely depleted)
-Itachi used Tsukiyomi
-Itachi used a Karasu Bunshin (Definitely a lot more then 10%, but less then 50%)


Susano'o aside, Itachi's chakra usage here definitely outweighs Sasuke's by a rather large margin.

-Itachi assumably used V2 susano'o and it got completely obliterated and the chakra was erased. Itachi reactivates his susano'o and then maintained his highest version of susano'o for the majority of the time until his terminal sickness unexpectedly started to really take it's toll on him [ ], which forced him to drop it down a level. Mind you this niga is literally stumbling towards Sasuke slow as shit... but he didn't deactivate Susano'o until . That's two whole solid chapters of straight high level susano'o usage. Maybe you can point out Sasuke's more precisely, but I'm still convinced Itachi has the better stamina feats.



Yeah, I'll just discard that point.

Well. Can't do anything here but agree. Nice post.
 

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Speed-Itachi
Physical strength-Itachi
Reactions-Itachi
Shurikenjutsu-Itachi
Genjutsu-Itachi
Skill with katon (excluding black flames)-Itachi
Skill with Amaterasu-Sasuke
Raw power of their strongest attacks, respectively-Itachi
Stamina-mmm if Itachi is healthy he is better, but if he is sick then sasuke
Pain tolerance-Itachi
Versatility-Itachi
Susanoo durability-Itachi
Susanoo offensive power-Itachi
Yasaka Magatamas vs Susanoo arrows (which is overall a better asset for Susanoo-Yasaka is to cool ;)
 

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Speed: Itachi

Physical strength: Itachi

Reactions: Itachi

Shurikenjutsu: Itachi

Genjutsu: Itachi by Far

Skill with Katon: Sasuke

Skill with Amaterasu: Sasuke by Far

Raw power of their Strongest attacks: Sasuke (Kirin)

Stamina: Sasuke

Pain tolerance: Itachi

Versatility: Sasuke

Susanoo durability: Itachi (Yata Mirror)

Susanoo offensive power: Itachi (Totsuka Blade)

Yasaka Magatamas vs Susanoo arrows: Susano'o Arrows​
 

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This is MS Sasuke and MS Itachi.

Speed
Physical strength
Reactions
Shurikenjutsu
Genjutsu
Skill with katon (excluding black flames)
Skill with Amaterasu
Raw power of their strongest attacks, respectively
Stamina
Pain tolerance
Versatility
Susanoo durability
Susanoo offensive power
Yasaka Magatamas vs Susanoo arrows (which is overall a better asset for Susanoo?)
With a healthy Itachi and a "prime" MS Sasuke...
Speed: Itachi
Physical strength: Itachi
Reactions: Itachi
Shurikenjutsu: Itachi
Genjutsu: Itachi (by a long shot)
Skill with katon: Sasuke
Skill with Amaterasu: again, Sasuke
Raw power: Sasuke
Stamina: Probably Sasuke, since we don't know how much stamina a healthy Itachi would have)
Pain tolerance: Itachi by a landslide
Versatility: Itachi.
Susanoo durability: Itachi
Susanoo offensive power: Sasuke. (Itachi's totsuka can one shot some characters that Sasuke's can't, but Sasuke have more variability)
And Susanoo arrows are probably more effective thanks to its sheeer speed (while the Masatamas have more destructive power)
 
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