Base Killer Bee vs Kakuzu

[Eng nawashi]

-Evading someone doesn't put your speed above average

But we can agree that Bee is faster than the likes of shikamaru who evaded kakazu katon .futon isnt faster too

-Kakashi has Pre-cog so he could see the fuuton coming, not to mention when used at a different distance the jutsu is actually hardet to avoid

Kakashi didnt evade the fuuton.he was in the mid air .he literally took the attack and survived with no injures

-Bee isn't absorbing Gian .-. unless he can use Raikiri

Why cant samehada absorb it ?

-Kakuzu has enough chakra to take advantage of any absorption and KO Bee

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[Bronze]

Bee can actually beat him.

He is much faster, (the speed to keep up with V1 Ay and KCM Naruto) his attacks at base can out-track an experienced Sharingan user, and he's overall more rounded on Taijutsu. He has Samehada to absorb Kakuzu's arsenal, which all are Chakra-based. He has Raiton to render Domu useless, given the Nature Transformation advantage Raiton has over Doton. He can seal, out-number him through Ink Clones.

 

[Zexion~]

But we can agree that Bee is faster than the likes of shikamaru who evaded kakazu katon .futon isnt faster too

The Katon isn't a fast jutsu but if he resorts to using tentacles to blocking one, he can use his Katon thereafter which travels under it. Fuuton is fast Lol, it turned into a Hurricane like jutsu in a mere matter of seconds.

Kakashi didnt evade the fuuton.he was in the mid air .he literally took the attack and survived with no injures

I actually thought you were a promising newbie, until you said this Lol.

Why cant samehada absorb it ?

Well in my scenario Samehada is absorbing chakra from the threads .-.

 

[Red Slayer]

Bee wins with Samehada!!!

 

[Eng nawashi]

The Katon isn't a fast jutsu but if he resorts to using tentacles to blocking one, he can use his Katon thereafter which travels under it. Fuuton is fast Lol, it turned into a Hurricane like jutsu in a mere matter of seconds.

but he still can warp the tails around his legs to defend against this katon .also futon isnt that fast .AOE=/= the speed .

I actually thought you were a promising newbie, until you said this Lol.

sorry for disappointing you Lol but kakashi was really in

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. if he really had evaded it ,we wouldnt have seen him armor less with a torn mask like

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right after the attack.both kakashi and Hidan took the attack with nearly no injures.
By the way I amnot newbie .i am 2012 member.

Well in my scenario Samehada is absorbing chakra from the threads .-.

UH .then samehada can cut the threads off then absorb Gian.

 

[Zexion~]

but he still can warp the tails around his legs to defend against this katon .also futon isnt that fast .AOE=/= the speed .

Except the fact that it was created in seconds = Speed..... Along with the DB page saying its activation is near instant.

sorry for disappointing you Lol but kakashi was really in

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. if he really had evaded it ,we wouldnt have seen him armor less with a torn mask like

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right after the attack.both kakashi and Hidan took the attack with nearly no injures.
By the way I amnot newbie .i am 2012 member.

He obviously dodged it, you can see him activating Sharingan

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, as a obvious sign that he saw through it and evaded it, not to mention the jutsu crushes you with pressure so a human being can't tank that.... as its internal damage. Don't see how you think a jutsu that rips apart the ground and tree's taller then normal tree's by a long shot is not going to hurt a human being Lol, especially when Kakuzu + Hidan stated it has killed humans before

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Unless you can provide facts that Kakashi is for some reason exponentially more durable then a normal human...he obviously avoided it.

Then there is the fact that Kakuzu stated he saw through the jutsu

UH .then samehada can cut the threads off then absorb Gian.

Its not cutting through threads coming from different directions, especially when they may not even contain chakra so its questionable in the first place, especially if they grab the hilt.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Except the fact that it was created in seconds = Speed..... Along with the DB page saying its activation is near instant.

But it hasnt feats that make it unavoidable to someone like Bee,alright?

He obviously dodged it, you can see him activating Sharingan

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, as a obvious sign that he saw through it and evaded it,

Kakashi's sharingan is and was activated all time .he just stared his eye as a sign of getting surprised.

not to mention the jutsu crushes you with pressure so a human being can't tank that.... as its internal damage. Don't see how you think a jutsu that rips apart the ground and tree's taller then normal tree's by a long shot is not going to hurt a human being Lol, especially when Kakuzu + Hidan stated it has killed humans before

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Unless you can provide facts that Kakashi is for some reason exponentially more durable then a normal human...he obviously avoided it.

Tree arent a standard to how a jutsu would work on ninja.kakashi survived a

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that undirectly,through kakashi's body,caused many of these trees to

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-Hidan said that you are the first one to survive this combination of attacks .
-How it comes that kakashi evaded it if he lost his armor and got torn mask directly after the attack?

Then there is the fact that Kakuzu stated he saw through the jutsu

Doesnt mean he evaded it ,alright?

Its not cutting through threads coming from different directions, especially when they may not even contain chakra so its questionable in the first place, especially if they grab the hilt.

But it can cut through the threads that catching him then absorb Gian.

 

[Haizaki]

Thing is Bee cant use his unique sword style if he's using Samehada, so threads can remove Samehada itself without any struggle really, especially since they were fast enough to blitz Kakashi, Bee is fast attack speed wise, but his foot speed leaves much to be desired especially when in base.

You realize Samehada move back to B if it wants

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and the chakra in those threads would be absorbed since they are manipulated via chakra...No reason why they won't contain chakra like you were saying in one of your posts. Tentacles refer to the threads.

Earth Grudge Fear* (地怨虞, Jiongu)
Ninjutsu, Hiden, No rank, Supplementary
User: Kakuzu

Interweaving one's life with the battlefront
Squirming jet black tentacles!!

Using chakra to manipulate black tentacles produced from inside the body itself, this grotesque technique allows for remote attacks. This allows Kakuzu to use a strategy without having to wait for the right oppertunity. Also, by using the tentacles to steal the hearts of other people, one takes in their respective chakra natures, allowing the use of techniques requiring any of the basic five elemental natures. This also gives the user semi-permanent longevity.

↓Tentacles with sharp pointed ends can also be used as sutures...
[picture of Kakuzu using his tentacles to stitch Hidan's head back on]

[picture of Kakuzu using his tentacles to separate his arm from his body, allowing him to cancel the Shadow Imitation Shuriken]
↑By detaching it from the main body, the arm can move about freely like a separate living creature...!!

[picture of Kakuzu showing off his tentacles]
↑By changing freely into, for instance, an elongated shape, one can turn any circumstances into their advantage. When Kakuzu is using "Earth Grudge Fear," he has no blind spots...

*The names of Kakuzu's techniques don't make much sense at first sight. This is because Kishimoto took the names from the legendary mecha anime "Mobile Suit Gundam" (機動戦士ガンダム, Kidou Senshi Gandamu), slightly altered them in some cases, and thought of kanji for them. Jiongu comes from the MSN-02 Zeong (ジオング, Jiongu), a mecha that can detach its arms for ranged attacks. The arms remains attached to the main body with wires.

Once Samehada is gone its a pretty big stomp. Even if its only gone for a second the hearts would be ready to KO him.

B can use his tentacles to his advantage and there's the fact that he can create clones who can also partially transform. Then there's the Samehada factor that can heal and give him stamina. There's the fact that it can absorb attacks.

 

[Zexion~]

You realize Samehada move back to B if it wants

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and the chakra in those threads would be absorbed since they are manipulated via chakra...No reason why they won't contain chakra like you were saying in one of your posts. Tentacles refer to the threads.







B can use his tentacles to his advantage and there's the fact that he can create clones who can also partially transform. Then there's the Samehada factor that can heal and give him stamina. There's the fact that it can absorb attacks.

My man Lol, chakra isn't pumped through them though .-. if that was the case why would he need to attach a CHAKRA SOURCE constantly and at all times? They're controlled via being connected to a source of chakra as shown when he releases his arm with the heart intact instead of just releasing threads. Even if he just continuously pumps chakra through them (which is already sketchy as that is like saying he pumps chakra through them 24/7 as they make up his body) could send his hand if he wanted to, or just grab the hilt if needed. Bee < Kakashi in speed and possible reactions. Nor has he shown any speed with that blade.

Tentacles? That got ripped apart by Chidori? Gian would rip through them taking advantage of his blocked eye sight, his clones aren't all that impressive a Katon would take care of them.


Yes he can heal but if he separates Bee from Samehada he's not letting it get back to him, well if that were the case Bee would already be dead anyways.

It can absorb attacks yes but not from a 360 angle so being blindsided from behind is still viable Lol.


Only countering you btw....

 

[New Dawn]

Killer Bee > MS Sauce

Killer bee with samehada > MS Sauce

MS Sauce > Kakuzu

Killer bee with samehada > ?

 

[Xlad]

Killer Bee > MS Sauce

Killer bee with samehada > MS Sauce

MS Sauce > Kakuzu

Killer bee with samehada > ?

I seriously hope this isn't Base Bee.

 

[New Dawn]

I seriously hope this isn't Base Bee.

Killer Bee with Samehada > Killer Bee > MS Sauce > Kakuzu!

 

[Xlad]

Killer Bee with Samehada > Killer Bee > MS Sauce > Kakuzu!

Except the scenario called for Base Bee. There is no way Base Bee with Samehada can be stronger than MS Sasuke.