Base Killer Bee vs Kakuzu

[Amaterasu]

Is Bee as fast or faster then Kakashi?

Damn, yeah he's pretty fast. Enough to dodge Kakazu's attacks

 

[Zexion~]

Pretty sure this threads contain chakra ,if it touched samehada ,the chakra would get absorbed and kakazu would lose his control over it

Or they just need to be latched onto a chakra source, if they contained chakra themselves they'd be able to function apart from Kakuzu's body, but he needs to send his heart with them if he wants to do that.

But lets say they did, Kakuzu can keep pumping chakra in them long enough for him to grab the sword and throw it 20 meters away Lol won't take that long.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kakuzu wins mid dif.

With manga intel, Kakuzu play smart,

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. Akatsuki (Manga) intel: Knows what Samehada is and its capable of. Knows Bee is from the land of lightening, yet alone holding the 8 tails jinchūriki that needs to be captured.

So shouldnt be surprised with Bee's jutsu in front of him (Raiton, Samehada, and TailBeast powers).

That said Kakuzu fights with caution. In his battle against team 10, he was able to easily react to an incoming projectile. Plus the fact by feats he has comparable speed and reaction of that to Kisame. So incoming raiton projectile will be interpret.

Kakuzu physical strength can easily create dust clouds, so when his strike miss, he can leave his arm underground, like in canon, for further back up desperate situation to take out Bee.

Considering the fact that Bee 7-style is too focuses for him to utilize raiton (plus he can only channel at one item at a time), and no intel on domu, encountering Kakuzu with this motion, will have most of his weapons snapped by density of Kakuzu's skin which will completely nerf his overwhelming kenjutsu style and focus more of using Samehada.

The battle basically ends by Kakuzu force feeding Samehada to get an opening to steal Bee's heart. Same way how he use the Mask to distract

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, for an opening. Overwhelming Bee gives him the same opening.

 

[Miscreant]

Hmmm, I think Kakuzu wins this. Last time I check, Samehada can only absorbed Raw chakra not necessary Nature elemental chakra. E.g When it tried to absorbed Itachi's Fireball, it seemingly got burnt. This means Kakuzu with his 3 Elementals affinty wins this Mid Diff!

 

[Zexion~]

Hmmm, I think Kakuzu wins this. Last time I check, Samehada can only absorbed Raw chakra not necessary Nature elemental chakra. E.g When it tried to absorbed Itachi's Fireball, it seemingly got burnt. This means Kakuzu with his 3 Elementals affinty wins this Mid Diff!

It absorbed Bee's lightning style off his blades/pencils

 

[Miscreant]

It absorbed Bee's lightning style off his blades/pencils

Mostly because those Pencils had minimum Lightning chakra. If it tries to absorb Large elemental techniques, It will certainly get affected Just like Itachi's Fireball!

 

[Eng nawashi]

Or they just need to be latched onto a chakra source, if they contained chakra themselves they'd be able to function apart from Kakuzu's body, but he needs to send his heart with them if he wants to do that.

I find it quite weird that kakazu can extend these threads and control them without him pumping chakra through the threads .

But lets say they did, Kakuzu can keep pumping chakra in them long enough for him to grab the sword and throw it 20 meters away Lol won't take that long.

We know that samehada can nearly instantly absorb a chakra that can be even bigger than kakazu's whole chakra . once this threads touch samehada ,it can be KO for kakazu just like how

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[Zexion~]

Mostly because those Pencils had minimum Lightning chakra. If it tries to absorb Large elemental techniques, It will certainly get affected Just like Itachi's Fireball!

It was stated that it was only because it didn't like fire, Kisame has a much higher skill for wielding the blade, and can force it to absorb whatever he wants.

 

[DMT]

Bee wins with no difficulty

he beats kakuzu in defense, speed, agility, durability, Stamina and fire power

 

[Made in Heaven]

Kakuzu would only win if Bee didn't have Shark Skin.

 

[super yang]

Kakuzu wins mid dif.

With manga intel, Kakuzu play smart,

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. Akatsuki (Manga) intel: Knows what Samehada is and its capable of. Knows Bee is from the land of lightening, yet alone holding the 8 tails jinchūriki that needs to be captured.

So shouldnt be surprised with Bee's jutsu in front of him (Raiton, Samehada, and TailBeast powers).

That said Kakuzu fights with caution. In his battle against team 10, he was able to easily react to an incoming projectile. Plus the fact by feats he has comparable speed and reaction of that to Kisame. So incoming raiton projectile will be interpret.

Kakuzu physical strength can easily create dust clouds, so when his strike miss, he can leave his arm underground, like in canon, for further back up desperate situation to take out Bee.

Considering the fact that Bee 7-style is too focuses for him to utilize raiton (plus he can only channel at one item at a time), and no intel on domu, encountering Kakuzu with this motion, will have most of his weapons snapped by density of Kakuzu's skin which will completely nerf his overwhelming kenjutsu style and focus more of using Samehada.

The battle basically ends by Kakuzu force feeding Samehada to get an opening to steal Bee's heart. Same way how he use the Mask to distract

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, for an opening. Overwhelming Bee gives him the same opening.

Bravo~~!!!!!! I love it; refreshing objectivity

Hmmm, I think Kakuzu wins this. Last time I check, Samehada can only absorbed Raw chakra not necessary Nature elemental chakra. E.g When it tried to absorbed Itachi's Fireball, it seemingly got burnt. This means Kakuzu with his 3 Elementals affinty wins this Mid Diff!

again, bravo~!! where has this been/ its been a while since I seen this properly understood.

and I actually think Bee wins(because of ink), but bravo ^_^''

 

[Eng nawashi]

Or they just need to be latched onto a chakra source, if they contained chakra themselves they'd be able to function apart from Kakuzu's body, but he needs to send his heart with them if he wants to do that.

I find it completely weird that kakazu can extend and control these threads without him pumping the chairs in them.

But lets say they did, Kakuzu can keep pumping chakra in them long enough for him to grab the sword and throw it 20 meters away Lol won't take that long.

We know that ,same a can nearly instantly absorb a chakra that can be bigger than kakazu's whole chakra .once the threads touch kisami ,it can be KO for kakazu since same had a can absorb him whole chakra like how kisame did with this guy

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and in any case same had a can cut the threads with his spikes .

 

[Conspirator.]

Bee wins mid to high diff.

 

[Eng nawashi]

my reply is visible now post #27, zexion

It was stated that it was only because it didn't like fire, Kisame has a much higher skill for wielding the blade, and can force it to absorb whatever he wants.

I think The Nazi Miscreant has a point here. sasmehada absorption isn't completely instant ,he needs to make a contact with what he absorbs first ,that is why he felt the fire heat ,and with the same way he would feel any offensive chakra.

 

[New Dawn]

At first i thought bee with shark skin > kakuzu but then i realized that he is not that good with sharks skin and kakuzu can pry it out of him and take him out before the sword comes back to bee. Kakuzu wins.

 

[Zexion~]

I find it quite weird that kakazu can extend these threads and control them without him pumping chakra through the threads .

We know that samehada can nearly instantly absorb a chakra that can be even bigger than kakazu's whole chakra . once this threads touch samehada ,it can be KO for kakazu just like how

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,or samehada can cut the threads with

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Lol he could do that yes, but Kakuzu has enough chakra (literally his arsenal is based off of spamming massive elemental attacks, and was never shown to break a sweat despite facing like 10 people) so that Bee gets blindsided by a mask as it takes time to absorb chakra, never mind with a medium of such length.

Samehada loved Bee's chakra so it devoured it as quick as it could, KISAME can force it into absorbing at a faster and higher rate than normal...but it can't constantly eat up chakra that quickly if that were the case Bee would have been drained when it transferred chakra from him to Kisame in their second "encounter". Bee can never hope to reach that kind of absorption rate until he gets mastery over the sword.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Lol he could do that yes, but Kakuzu has enough chakra (literally his arsenal is based off of spamming massive elemental attacks, and was never shown to break a sweat despite facing like 10 people) so that Bee gets blindsided by a mask as it takes time to absorb chakra, never mind with a medium of such length.

Samehada loved Bee's chakra so it devoured it as quick as it could, KISAME can force it into absorbing at a faster and higher rate than normal...but it can't constantly eat up chakra that quickly if that were the case Bee would have been drained when it transferred chakra from him to Kisame in their second "encounter". Bee can never hope to reach that kind of absorption rate until he gets mastery over the sword.

Ok ,it wont be KO for Kakazu but that would certainly drain much of his chakra .if Bee found himself vanurable for an attack while absorbing another one from another direction ,he can shunshin away avoiding both ,or defend himself with Hachibi tails .

Samehada was being forced by Kisame when he transfered the chakra from Bee to Kisame ,and Bee was actually drained

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- When it was stated that Samehada's absorption got faster because he liked Bee chakra ?
- when it was stated that Kisame can force Samehada to absorb faster ?

 

[Zexion~]

Ok ,it wont be KO for Kakazu but that would certainly drain much of his chakra .if Bee found himself vanurable for an attack while absorbing another one from another direction ,he can shunshin away avoiding both ,or defend himself with Hachibi tails .

Defend himself with the tails that were sliced up by Chidori? Kakuzu's gian is = Raikiri so it gets destroyed, and his fuuton can't be defended from with a mere tentacle or two :| Katon couldn't either actually. Bee isn't that fast again, he maybe can avoid one or two jutsu bet the minute he goes on the defensive the match ends.

Samehada was being forced by Kisame when he transfered the chakra from Bee to Kisame ,and Bee was actually drained

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This answers

- when it was stated that Kisame can force Samehada to absorb faster ?

This. Kisame himself was drained of chakra so he couldn't force Samehada to absorb that fast especially since Samehada was resisting more greatly then it normally would. Doesn't really matter the threads would have to dig into Samehada for this strategy to work anyways which they wouldn't do they'd grab it and throw it in seconds.

- When it was stated that Samehada's absorption got faster because he liked Bee chakra ?

*sigh* Kisame stated/insinuated it sometime during their fight, not really trying to look it up atm.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Defend himself with the tails that were sliced up by Chidori? Kakuzu's gian is = Raikiri so it gets destroyed

I agree with that .then bee would have to either absorb gian and tank the other attack or evade both.

and his fuuton can't be defended from with a mere tentacle or two :| Katon couldn't either actually

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The fouton that kakashi got out of with just a torn mask and armor Lol .the katon gets tanked too .

Bee isn't that fast again,

No his shunshin is good .he was able to evade Juugo and cross a big distance despite being struck with chidori .kakazu attacks isnt that fast either excluding gian which bee can evade .

bet the minute he goes on the defensive the match ends.

I may agree with this .

This answers

I know that kisame can force samehada but not to absorb faster .it was never stated that kisame can make samehada absorptiob faster.

This. Kisame himself was drained of chakra so he couldn't force Samehada to absorb that fast especially since Samehada was resisting more greatly then it normally would

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An assumption and irrelevent

Doesn't really matter the threads would have to dig into Samehada for this strategy to work anyways which they wouldn't do they'd grab it and throw it in seconds.

Again .samehada absorption is much faster than kakazu pumping chakra rate considering that samehada absorbed nearly instantly a chakra that kakazu arguably doesnt even have .with that being said kakazu would never control his threads long enough to throw samehada away .and in worst cases samehada can cut the threads with his spikes .


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sigh* Kisame stated/insinuated it sometime during their fight, not really trying to look it up atm.

I cant recall that .

I started to see kakazu chances in winning this match anyway.

 

[Zexion~]

I agree with that .then bee would have to either absorb gian and tank the other attack or evade both.
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The fouton that kakashi got out of with just a torn mask and armor Lol .the katon gets tanked too .

No his shunshin is good .he was able to evade Juugo and cross a big distance despite being struck with chidori .kakazu attacks isnt that fast either excluding gian which bee can evade .


I may agree with this .



I know that kisame can force samehada but not to absorb faster .it was never stated that kisame can make samehada absorptiob faster.



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An assumption and irrelevent


Again .samehada absorption is much faster than kakazu pumping chakra rate considering that samehada absorbed nearly instantly a chakra that kakazu arguably doesnt even have .with that being said kakazu would never control his threads long enough to throw samehada away .and in worst cases samehada can cut the threads with his spikes .


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I cant recall that .

I started to see kakazu chances in winning this match anyway.

-Evading someone doesn't put your speed above average

-Kakashi has Pre-cog so he could see the fuuton coming, not to mention when used at a different distance the jutsu is actually hardet to avoid

-Bee isn't absorbing Gian .-. unless he can use Raikiri

-Kakuzu has enough chakra to take advantage of any absorption and KO Bee