Gengetsu/Mei vs Deidara/Sasori

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Restrictions: C4 and C0

Manga intel, distance 35 meters location Gaara vs Kimimaro

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I see the Akatsuki duo struggling to over come the Mist and constantly being pressured by Mei's large scale suiton, which would also be a method to getting the Joki Boi closer to them. Eventually, Deidara would need to come down to restock his clay supply, and I have a lack of faith in Sasori to make sure they aren't murdered.

Mizukage's win with a decent challenge.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Deidara c3 ends this.​

 

[Zexion~]

I see the Akatsuki duo struggling to over come the Mist and constantly being pressured by Mei's large scale suiton, which would also be a method to getting the Joki Boi closer to them. Eventually, Deidara would need to come down to restock his clay supply, and I have a lack of faith in Sasori to make sure they aren't murdered.

Mizukage's win with a decent challenge.

Why does Deidara need to come down to restock his clay supply....

Give Sasori a bird and IS rain storm is tough to avoid for both of them as neither of them are fast at all, combine that with Doton most likely pushing right through the suitons and i'll give it to Akatsuki mid diff.


If the bombs can plow through suiton though,if not its a high diff win for Akatsuki

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Why does Deidara need to come down to restock his clay supply....

Give Sasori a bird and IS rain storm is tough to avoid for both of them as neither of them are fast at all, combine that with Doton most likely pushing right through the suitons and i'll give it to Akatsuki mid diff.


If the bombs can plow through suiton though,if not its a high diff win for Akatsuki

Oh boi, here we go.

Because when he runs out of clay, he'd have to substitute it with ground up dirt,

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. So yeaah, that's where he'd need to be. In enemy territory. The Iron Sand isn't that fast of a shinobi weapon, chiyo was reacting against it handily. Mei from this range

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managed to

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, to block the katon with her large water technique. It's not the best speed feat, sure. But it Sure as Hell does the job for avoiding the Iron Sand, especially at a range. To give you a bit more insight,

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Clearing that distance in a short enough time is enough to give Mei the needed feats of dodging the Iron Sand.

The smaller bombs probably couldn't do major damage to the suiton dragon, but even if we use C2, with Mei's quick hand seal speed, nothing's stopping her from reusing the water from the first suiton dragon to make a second. Similarly to how

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With either the genjutsu mist, which may not always be on seeing how their opponents would be in the air, or Mei's regular mist. They won't know exactly where to fire their weapons. Meaning that clay and or Iron Sand must be expended to just find where to properly target their weaponry. Though, the likely situation is that the genjutsu mist is used for simplicity sake, it'd be easier to find the Akatsuki in it for the Mizukages.

 

[Zexion~]

Oh boi, here we go.

Because when he runs out of clay, he'd have to substitute it with ground up dirt,

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. So yeaah, that's where he'd need to be. In enemy territory. The Iron Sand isn't that fast of a shinobi weapon, chiyo was reacting against it handily. Mei from this range

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managed to

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, to block the katon with her large water technique. It's not the best speed feat, sure. But it Sure as Hell does the job for avoiding the Iron Sand, especially at a range. To give you a bit more insight,

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, with

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Clearing that distance in a short enough time is enough to give Mei the needed feats of dodging the Iron Sand.

The smaller bombs probably couldn't do major damage to the suiton dragon, but even if we use C2, with Mei's quick hand seal speed, nothing's stopping her from reusing the water from the first suiton dragon to make a second. Similarly to how

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With either the genjutsu mist, which may not always be on seeing how their opponents would be in the air, or Mei's regular mist. They won't know exactly where to fire their weapons. Meaning that clay and or Iron Sand must be expended to just find where to properly target their weaponry. Though, the likely situation is that the genjutsu mist is used for simplicity sake, it'd be easier to find the Akatsuki in it for the Mizukages.

Watching my hawks but I see fallacies so i'll edit this with my reply lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Watching my hawks but I see fallacies so i'll edit this with my reply lol

Fallacies? Tryna be some big shot poster, call it bull shit or something Zex. It don't suit ya'.

Hawks? What sport is that, blacksketball?

 

[Zexion~]

Fallacies? Tryna be some big shot poster, call it bull shit or something Zex. It don't suit ya'.

Hawks? What sport is that, blacksketball?

Lol i've been a big shot

And yeah it is, last game of the season ( regular season )

 

[TRE MERCER]

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Those speed feats from Mei are irrelevant considering Tsunade covered a huge distance in a single leap but she's still pretty slow. Mei's water is use full until Deidara gets bored and does this.[

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] Class is dismissed.​

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Those speed feats from Mei are irrelevant considering Tsunade covered a huge distance in a single leap but she's still pretty slow. Also you claimed Mei leaped over to block the Katon with her Suiton you either lied or simply don't know what your talking about because Mei only stood up and shot the Suiton she didn't leap anywhere.[

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] Mei's water is use full until Deidara gets bored and does this.[

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] Class is dismissed.​

Are you slow, or just a big bull shit factory? Please come forward if you are slow, nothing to be ashamed with, we'll all treat you a tad bit special so you can fit in. Your scan of Mei performing the suiton isn't the same situation I am talking about,

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. I think you're slow, or you can fess up to being a bowl of shit.

C3 takes prep,

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. No reason to resort to that unless it requires a significant amount of time to be made, and not suited for a Kage level battle.

 

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Are you slow, or just a big bull shit factory? Please come forward if you are slow, nothing to be ashamed with, we'll all treat you a tad bit special so you can fit in. Your scan of Mei performing the suiton isn't the same situation I am talking about,

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. I think you're slow, or you can fess up to being a bowl of shit.

C3 takes prep,

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. No reason to resort to that unless it requires a significant amount of time to be made, and not suited for a Kage level battle.

[Bold] Touche. Does it matter if it takes prep neither of them can hit Deidara while he's airborn. Excuses why not just end the battle why take the chance of wasting clay on using smaller attacks which can probably be taken out and force Deidara to ground level this would not only leave Deidara open for an array of attacks but he will also be forced to enter the mist which he won't know if things are real or just a mirage. Thanks for staying for Detention but class if officially dismissed.​

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

[Bold] Touche. Does it matter if it takes prep neither of them can hit Deidara while he's airborn. Excuses why not just end the battle why take the chance of wasting clay on using smaller attacks which can probably be taken out and force Deidara to ground level this would not only leave Deidara open for an array of attacks but he will also be forced to enter the mist which he won't know if things are real or just a mirage. Thanks for staying for Detention but class if officially dismissed.​

Are you suggesting that Deidara will go for his strongest (available) technique off the get-go, when he's got a pretty large arsenal, as far as shinobi are considered? That's the equivalent of saying Amaterasu GG or Tsukuyomi GG, practically no shinobi is going to rush for the finishing move immediately, not when the rest of their jutsu is still perfectly capable of proving some use. As far as he knows, Trollkages mist isn't genjutsu inducing. If he had to go to the ground, I doubt he'd take nearly as many safety procautions as you initially think he would.

Look at the AoE of the attack, please.

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, we get a rough estimate of how far it'll go. Albeit, the attack should expand a bit more, but the explosion and force behind it likely rocketed into the sky when it met the Sand, much like Juubito's TBB's did when they were trapped in the barrier technique. So still we get to see a good size of what'd be like. It's not nearly large enough to take either the Mizukage's out, if Deidara opts to stay high into the sky and drop it. The Mizukage's would have enough time to get to a safer area. If he gets closer, a Suiton shoots it back up or reduces the fall. Not to mention a suiton dragon with Joki Boi being at the mouth of it would boost the range of the already quick and deadly clone. He's not entirely safe in the air.

Now please be careful in those hallways Originaldebater, I hope you'll wear your helmet.

 

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Are you suggesting that Deidara will go for his strongest (available) technique off the get-go, when he's got a pretty large arsenal, as far as shinobi are considered? That's the equivalent of saying Amaterasu GG or Tsukuyomi GG, practically no shinobi is going to rush for the finishing move immediately, not when the rest of their jutsu is still perfectly capable of proving some use. As far as he knows, Trollkages mist isn't genjutsu inducing. If he had to go to the ground, I doubt he'd take nearly as many safety procautions as you initially think he would.

Yes im suggesting that. Kakashi simply trying to snipe the Gedo Mazo off rip is a perfect example.[

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] Sasuke resorting straight to Susanoo with Danzo[

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] The list goes on. Guided missles are useless because Deidara won't know where to guide them through the mist. Im really not seeing any other option here. Deidara isn't a clueless bat here stop with that mess.​

Look at the AoE of the attack, please.

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, we get a rough estimate of how far it'll go. Albeit, the attack should expand a bit more, but the explosion and force behind it likely rocketed into the sky when it met the Sand, much like Juubito's TBB's did when they were trapped in the barrier technique. So still we get to see a good size of what'd be like. It's not nearly large enough to take either the Mizukage's out, if Deidara opts to stay high into the sky and drop it. The Mizukage's would have enough time to get to a safer area. If he gets closer, a Suiton shoots it back up or reduces the fall. Not to mention a suiton dragon with Joki Boi being at the mouth of it would boost the range of the already quick and deadly clone. He's not entirely safe in the air.

Now please be careful in those hallways Originaldebater, I hope you'll wear your helmet.

Bold is just adding gasoline to fire i sparked under your argument. Red whaaat are you serious? There getting out of the Aoe with what speed feats? Sasori sand can protect it until it gets where it needs to be. Joki boy would get blown to oblivion just like the Mizukage's. [@Blue] It's Alpha to you.​

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Yes im suggesting that. Kakashi simply trying to snipe the Gedo Mazo off rip is a perfect example.[

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] Sasuke resorting straight to Susanoo with Danzo[

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] The list goes on. Guided missles are useless because Deidara won't know where to guide them through the mist. Im really not seeing any other option here. Deidara isn't a clueless bat here stop with that mess.​

Bold is just adding gasoline to fire i sparked under your argument. Red whaaat are you serious? There getting out of the Aoe with what speed feats? Sasori sand can protect it until it gets where it needs to be. Joki boy would get blown to oblivion just like the Mizukage's. [@Blue] It's Alpha to you.[Bold]​

@Bold: No, that's clearly you. Sasuke was blood lusted, not in his right state of mind. Obviously he'll resort to his higher grade techniques when under those conditions. Kakashi? It was the only technique effective at the time, fighting it earlier proved that much. Not to mention it was the key to reviving the juubi. It's a piss poor argument. Deidara's capable of using his bombs in conjuncture with the Iron sand or even more bombs to clear away the mist, revealing his opponents for a time. Which isn't a bad strategy for him to use, under the guise of the first explosion a second wave of bombs or the Iron Sand can attempt to catch the Mizukage's off guard. But nah, you went with C3 GG. Kudo's brah.

No, the bold is me showing the rough area it'll go in the time it takes to travel. Which, according to you, is high seeing as Deidara is far enough into the sky to not allow the Mizukage's to counter attack effectively with the strategy I pointed out. I assume that's what you're going with, solely due to the fact you never addressed them. Sasori's Iron Sand isn't nearly agile or maneouverable enough to defend it the entire way and tear off of it the last minute. It'd either be lost in the explosion, or it'd have to detach a bit before the explosion.

Giving Mei enough time to shoot a Suiton dragon at it and throw it back in the air, at the worst possible scenario. With poor visability on either of the Mizukage's, they can slip to the outskirts of the attack easily (Largely due to the distance you must put between them,) and either use Mei's suiton water spout or another technique to buffer what comes their way. But the technique didn't appear to have an AoE massive enough to prevent the Kages from escaping.

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, based on the area the Sand needed to cover. Maybe add in a few more, but that's nothing Mei herself can't evade yet alone the Mizukage. I've already shown Mei's speed feats, and all that really needs to happen for the Trollkage to be enhanced is a small pool of suiton on the battle field already,

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Doubtful he's too quick, but certainly not slow.

TLR
>Deidara has to stay far into the sky to avoid the AoE of the attack and the Mizukage's own offensive techniques
>The time it'll take for the bomb to hit'll be enough for the Mizukage's to leave the epicenter, likely an easier task considering Deidara doesn't know their general location
>Any explosion coming their way, once far enough, is fought back against with a Suiton wall.

@The Bold, you're clearly a beta though.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

TAC. If you have time to post walls of texts to YoungDebater and read his nice, legible font (with the usual flawless grammar, of course), then shouldn't we resume our Trollkage/Kisame debate...?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

TAC. If you have time to post walls of texts to YoungDebater and read his nice, legible font (with the usual flawless grammar, of course), then shouldn't we resume our Trollkage/Kisame debate...?

Cause God Damn replying to you is actual work. But Fine, I'll start up on that again. Mind sending me a link?

Lmao. . . Just noticed the bold. It's like trying to read chinese.

 

[TRE MERCER]

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Didn't bother reading that wall of text.

[1] Your argument was basically saying Deidara isn't going to use c3 right off the bat.(Because you had no counter to it)
[2] You claimed Mei and the 2nd Mizukage would run out of the radius of the explosion that very laughable because they won't know it's coming until it's already on it's way down.
[3] Mei leaping to try and justify her pathetic speed feats was mediocre at beat.
[4]Your acting as if this is Deidara vs them 1v1.
[5] Concede already before you make to much of a fool out of yourself.​

TAC. If you have time to post walls of texts to YoungDebater and read his nice, legible font (with the usual flawless grammar, of course), then shouldn't we resume our Trollkage/Kisame debate...?

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[TheAncientCenturion]

Didn't bother reading that wall of text.

[1] Your argument was basically saying Deidara isn't going to use c3 right off the bat.(Because you had no counter to it)
[2] You claimed Mei and the 2nd Mizukage would run out of the radius of the explosion that very laughable because they won't know it's coming until it's already on it's way down.
[3] Mei leaping to try and justify her pathetic speed feats was mediocre at beat.
[4]Your acting as if this is Deidara vs them 1v1.
[5] Concede already before you make to much of a fool out of yourself.​

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So are you not countering because you can't or because you don't understand what's being discussed?? That's the only reasons I see, otherwise you'd reply seriously. But then again, look who I'm discussing this with. A child with mental deficiencies. Read my post(s) carefully, reread them if you have to. Then maybe form an honest to goodness counter.

1 - Deidara's C3 needs prep, he isn't using it off the start of the battle. It's a cheap gimmick when you have nothing else to rely on, to try and use the best technique at the get go anyways. But I did in fact counter it. Suiton pushes it right back up when it comes closer or they move out of the radius. it'll be explained below.

2 - The radius isn't that extreme, bud. And when you fail to not only counter but even address the fact that if Deidara is too close, he's suseptable to attack and therefor must maintain a wide distance, it's a technique they'll see coming. A technique Baki even recognized off of first sight to be one that must evaded.

3 - Right, and completely posting wrong scans to try and prove a point, despite being clearly wrong makes your view point all the better. You don't grasp the situation. Mei cleared a considerable distance in seconds. C3 will be a technique that takes more than seconds to come down from where the Akatsuki must be at. Giving them more time to avoid it.

4 - I am countering what you're saying, you've used almost nothing from Sasori. Sort of sad, considering a barrage of explosives followed with Iron Sand world is a devastating combo, for Mei at least. But ah well, you're a bit lacking in the head. Couldn't expect much from ya'.

5 - How about you change your font and try to counter my posts before acting like a hot shot. You've said nothing of note, relying on "C3 GG!" as your sole argument. Think before posting next time, or I'll just ignore you and wait for Zexion~ to reply to me.

 

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Mizukage team .

 

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Mizukage win.