Full Kurama vs Base Hashirama

[Beans2]

Location: VOTE
Intel: Manga
Distance: 1 kilometer
Restrictions: Sage Mode

Scenario 2: Only restriction is Shinsuusenju

 

[Null Man]

Flash Biju bomb gg

Edit: What's with the distance?

 

[Amaterasu]

Kurama wins low med-diff. Mokujin and Mokuryuu does nothing. Bijuudama GG

 

[swirlyshark]

Umm I'm pretty base hashi matched kurama and ems Madara then even went toe to toe with ps enhanced kurama for a second. And isn't mokuton used to absorb chakra? And his wood golem caught a TBB like it was his job
O.T. Base hashi high diff

 

[KidGamer65]

Hashirama can't deal with the larger Bijuu Dama consistently enough to win.

He stomps in S2 though. Myojinmon+Kakuan Nitten Suishu=GG Kurama.

 

[Conspirator.]

Hashirama wins the first, but loses the second.

 

[Draphsin]

How does hashi not spank? FTW puts kurama to sleep while hotei/hobi/mokujin/rashomon gates catches/redirects/tanks any incoming tbbs, especially from a kilometer away & w/ sensory abilities. Mayfly ensures his safety on top of that since he can

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the speed of a traveling tbb already.

 

[-immortal-]

Hashirama has GATES

 

[Beans2]

How does hashi not spank? FTW puts kurama to sleep while hotei/hobi/mokujin/rashomon gates catches/redirects/tanks any incoming tbbs, especially from a kilometer & w/ sensory abilities. Mayfly ensures his safety on top of that since he can

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the speed of a traveling tbb already.

FTW gets nuked by Bijuu Dama. None of those things are catching Kurama's larger TBBs. Hashirama can only run away with mayfly for so long.

 

[maniaoqan]

Hashirama wins confortably. That man is anti-bijuu.

 

[KingHashirama]

FTW gets nuked by Bijuu Dama. None of those things are catching Kurama's larger TBBs. Hashirama can only run away with mayfly for so long.

Where did that nuke go when Kurama was facing him?

Kurama ain't making no nuke when he has mokuton coming after his ass from the floor. And by the time He starts, Hashirama just used the huge ass mountain hands to pin him down, which were only avoidable due to the Perfect Susanoo's sword.


effortlessly pinned down the juubi:

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Hashirama can do this to Kurama in base:

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And ahh i forgot casually puts him to sleep:

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[Draphsin]

FTW gets nuked by Bijuu Dama.

Then he nukes himself & hashi regrows it. Plus does kurama even have info on FTW? We don't know if hashi ever used it at the VoTE.

None of those things are catching Kurama's larger TBBs.

Larger tbbs? You mean the charged ones? Because hashi already caught standard ones w/ mokujin & hotei hands are

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. If kurama decides to charge it then that allows for more time for FTW to affect him, plus from a kilometer hashi will know if it's too large to catch beforehand & so he'll mayfly to safety.

Hashirama can only run away with mayfly for so long.

Kurama can only avoid FTW for so long, he can't destroy the forest around him w/ tbbs & w/o damaging himself. If you're skeptical about hashi reaching kurama w/ the forest from a kilo then he can send a clone to go do it instead.

 

[Beans2]

Then he nukes himself & hashi regrows it. Plus does kurama even have info on FTW? We don't know if hashi ever used it at the VoTE.

Larger tbbs? You mean the charged ones? Because hashi already caught standard ones w/ mokujin & hotei hands are

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. If kurama decides to charge it then that allows for more time for FTW to affect him, plus from a kilometer hashi will know if it's too large to catch beforehand & so he'll mayfly to safety.

Kurama can only avoid FTW for so long, he can't destroy the forest around him w/ tbbs & w/o damaging himself. If you're skeptical about hashi reaching kurama w/ the forest from a kilo then he can send a clone to go do it instead.

Only a small TBB is needed to take out FTW. Full Kurama would blow up FTW, tank its smaller TBB without significant damage, then charge up a flash Bijuu Dama and it's GG Hashirama. Hotei hands still aren't catching or tanking flash Bijuu Dama, and Hashirama can't simultaneously be using Mayfly and FTW (wood clones would get blown up along with FTW). Also Mayfly is a really overrated jutsu. The blast radius of Kurama's charged TBB is huge and can reach Hashirama underground if the attack goes deep enough.

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[Lariatoo]

I see Hashi definitly winning this.

 

[Draphsin]

Only a small TBB is needed to take out FTW.

Which still damages kurama, then hashi simply regrows it.

Full Kurama would blow up FTW, tank its smaller TBB without significant damage, then charge up a flash Bijuu Dama and it's GG Hashirama.

1. Gyuki's standard tbb forced him back into bee

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. Kurama's smallest tbb is his standard one which by scale would do a similar amount of damage. I don't see a reason to believe he would or even could create a tbb small enough for him to tank w/ minimal damage but blow up enough of the forest as well.

2. There's still nothing suggesting he even knows what the pollen does, so he'd have no reason to blow up the trees unless they were attacking him. & FTW doesn't attack, it's passive.

3. When kurama gets damaged by the tbb hashi will know it went off due to his senses, if kurama tries to charge a flash tbb immediately after then the original hashi mayflies while he uses the clone to fix the forest in the meantime. Alternately, he can have the clone go right up to kurama & prepare to pin him or disrupt his charge time with hotei, he could even summon the rashomon gates to knock him back & cause the tbb to either

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or blow him up too.

Hotei hands still aren't catching or tanking flash Bijuu Dama,

Never said they would.

And Hashirama can't simultaneously be using Mayfly and FTW (wood clones would get blown up along with FTW).

How fast do you think kurama can charge a massive tbb? There's obviously going to be a charge time & naruto managed to

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. All the clone has to do is use hobi to tank the small forest-clearing tbb w/ kurama then he'll also be within range to disrupt any larger ones + regrow the forest.

Also from a kilo away & w/o sensory abilities how is kurama even going to properly keep track of the original hashi? If anything he'll think the clone is the original which allows the real hashi to avoid damage throughout the entire fight [one clone dies, he sends in another one from a different direction].

Also Mayfly is a really overrated jutsu.

It may be overrated by some hardcore oro fanboys who like to use zetsu's feats, but I'm using it reasonably here.

The blast radius of Kurama's charged TBB is huge and can reach Hashirama underground if the attack goes deep enough.

Mayfly has been used to travel distances such as from

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to

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, it's not a matter of going deep, it's a matter of avoiding the entire area.

According to the stipulations you gave a kilometer between these two. W/ the aid of his clone + his sensory abilities hashi will easily know when kurama is charging a tbb & if it's being aimed at his original body or not. If the tbb is aimed at his body then hashi has a kilometer's worth of time to use mayfly & travel the aforementioned distance before it reaches him. This should easily be achievable unless you believe the travel time of a charged tbb is faster than it takes for hashi to merge w/ the ground.

 

[moonfriez]

In the manga it clearly states that hashirama had control over multiple bijuu, and even treated them like pets. In terms of raw power I don't think anyone can argue Kurama is not by far and a way stronger, but hashirama's unique skills give him the edge in this fight. Hashirama wins 10/10 times mid diff