Base Minato vs DMS Obito (no Rikudou chakra)

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You give me a proof that ftg faster than kamui ,I already know that ftg is even faster than rikudo chakra enhanced doubled speed kamui
I just ask for a poof that minato would react to top speed long range kamui on his neck and use ftg before any part of his neck enters the kamui dimension
I am going to sleep now ,I would gave you my reasons why I think minato wouldnt most likely react in time tomorrow
FTG doesn't utilize on it's own Minato has to react & activate it by his will...
Also you better prove that FTG users can't escape Kamui dimension cause Manga clearly showed S/T techs can be used in other dimensions...ok till tomorrow.
 
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Obito wins mid diff.

The other eye would logically let him snipe while still being able to send his body parts to the other dimension. The only reason he couldn't do so before was because they were from the same eye. That means Obito can attack with a Kamui fast enough to tear off the Gedo's arm in a split second while slipping through any attack Minato happens to make.

So that means Obito just keeps warping Minato's markings away until he has nowhere left to run, or Obito outlasts him.
 

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This is the same Minato who could barely handle a 1 kamui 13 year old Obito?

Lol DMS Speed managed to warp himself inside Kaguya's portal this is a feat RSM Naruto couldn't even do while literally having clones surrounding Kaguya within 5ft. Minato get's sniped since Kamui speed is doubled. Susanoo isn't even needed here. Once the battle starts Obito simply snipes before Minato has time to throw a kunai.
 

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Obito wins mid diff.

The other eye would logically let him snipe while still being able to send his body parts to the other dimension. The only reason he couldn't do so before was because they were from the same eye. That means Obito can attack with a Kamui fast enough to tear off the Gedo's arm in a split second while slipping through any attack Minato happens to make.

So that means Obito just keeps warping Minato's markings away until he has nowhere left to run, or Obito outlasts him.

Do you really think that DMS obito can use kamui snipe while using intangibility!!?
 

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QUOTE=Great Master Minato;18669665]FTG doesn't utilize on it's own Minato has to react & activate it by his will...
Then ?
Reacting to gudomas =/= reacting to top speed long range kamui on his neck
Kamui was fast enough to warp naruto's clone(something that is much bigger than a human neck) faster than obito with sharingan and riningan can notice the warping in front of his eyes ,while gudomas was getting tracked easily by obito,kakashi and Lee ... Etc

Kamui was even fast enough to warp the whole gedu's arm( something waaaaaaay bigger than human neck)in split second that even kcm minato couldn't realize what happened
That is faster than anything minato reacted to before ,I highly doubt that minato would react to something that fast and uses ftg before any part of his neck enters kamui dimension
If we want to know if minato can react to kamui or not we should find out minato's reaction limit ,and if top speed kamui exceeds it or not

Also you better prove that FTG users can't escape Kamui dimension cause Manga clearly showed S/T techs can be used in other dimensions...ok till tomorrow.
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Firstly ,obito doesn't need to warp minato's whole body due to having long range kamui ,he only needs to warp minato's neck or even a part of it

Secondly : if you mean that minato can escape from kamui dimension because sasuke summoned hawk while he was inside kaguya's dimension ,I don't think that applies on kamui dimension because of more than one reason :
1- data book describes kamui dimension as a sealed dimension
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so anything in its dimension should be considered sealed therefore s/t summonings cant escape it including ftg ,as I remember when Edo madara tried to summon the kiybui who was sealed in a dimension inside naruto ,madar failed in summoning the kiubyi

2- when madara tried to summon the gedu mazu while kakashi was still warping it ,the gedu teleported to madara without his arm because it entered the kamui dimension
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So if obito used top speed long range kamui on minato's neck ,and a nail sized part of minato's neck entered the kamui dimension before he uses ftg ,it is over
 
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^ I'm going with KG65 on this Kamui snipe argument...
Below is his statement...
If Minato hasn't set a marking by the time Obito decides to use Kamui, then he'll at best escape at the cost of a body part. He'd most likely die though.
 

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Do you really think that DMS obito can use kamui snipe while using intangibility!!?

Yes, now I do. I can't see a reason why he wouldn't be able to. In reality, there is no "Kamui Snipe while using intangibility" due to how Kamui works. Obito is only "intangible" when an object overlaps with his body. The rest of the time he's intangible.
 

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Yes, now I do. I can't see a reason why he wouldn't be able to. In reality, there is no "Kamui Snipe while using intangibility" due to how Kamui works. Obito is only "intangible" when an object overlaps with his body. The rest of the time he's intangible.

I used to believe in that too ,I even made a thread about that , but I don't use it in any argument ,as the people here call that fanfic
That makes sense ,DMS obito has already used his 2 eyes at the same time ,I don't see any reason prevents obito from sniping while phasing as long as his eye( which uses kamui snipe)doesn't overlap with any object ,
 

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I used to believe in that too ,I even made a thread about that , but I don't use it in any argument ,as the people here call that fanfic
That makes sense ,DMS obito has already used his 2 eyes at the same time ,I don't see any reason prevents obito from sniping while phasing as long as his eye( which uses kamui snipe)doesn't overlap with any object ,

Yup. Exactly what I think. Obito was only using one jutsu before, that's why he can't use multiple functions at once.
 

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What do you mean?
If Minato hasn't set a marking by the time Obito decides to use Kamui, then he'll at best escape at the cost of a body part. He'd most likely die though...but once a tag has been set Kamui is not gonna catch Minato.
 
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I doubt Kakashi can snipe while being intangible. That move would be too hax
 

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I doubt Kakashi can snipe while being intangible. That move would be too hax

What stops him? Phazing with his original eye. Sniping with the other eye? Kamui is a visual genjutsu after all. As long as sight is required sniping is required.
 

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Then ?
Reacting to gudomas =/= reacting to top speed long range kamui on his neck
Kamui was fast enough to warp naruto's clone(something that is much bigger than a human neck) faster than obito with sharingan and riningan can notice the warping in front of his eyes ,while gudomas was getting tracked easily by obito,kakashi and Lee ... Etc

Kamui was even fast enough to warp the whole gedu's arm( something waaaaaaay bigger than human neck)in split second that even kcm minato couldn't realize what happened
That is faster than anything minato reacted to before ,I highly doubt that minato would react to something that fast and uses ftg before any part of his neck enters kamui dimension
If we want to know if minato can react to kamui or not we should find out minato's reaction limit ,and if top speed kamui exceeds it or not
Firstly ,obito doesn't need to warp minato's whole body due to having long range kamui ,he only needs to warp minato's neck or even a part of it

Secondly : if you mean that minato can escape from kamui dimension because sasuke summoned hawk while he was inside kaguya's dimension ,I don't think that applies on kamui dimension because of more than one reason :
1- data book describes kamui dimension as a sealed dimension
You must be registered for see images
so anything in its dimension should be considered sealed therefore s/t summonings cant escape it including ftg ,as I remember when Edo madara tried to summon the kiybui who was sealed in a dimension inside naruto ,madar failed in summoning the kiubyi

2- when madara tried to summon the gedu mazu while kakashi was still warping it ,the gedu teleported to madara without his arm because it entered the kamui dimension
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So if obito used top speed long range kamui on minato's neck ,and a nail sized part of minato's neck entered the kamui dimension before he uses ftg ,it is over[/QUOTE]
 
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