Base Minato vs DMS Obito (no Rikudou chakra)

[Beans2]

No Rikudou chakra means Obito can't manifest Perfect Susanoo, but he can still use any Susanoo variant up to V4.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Obito shits. Susanoo is not even needed.
BM Minato will win though.

 

[Draphsin]

Obito sh*ts w/ susanoo, he can snipe from his susanoo w/o any major problems other than chakra consumption. Kakashi while focusing managed to snipe the gedo before it could teleport & managed to snipe a hole in madara's gudo dama before he could notice it, meaning minato will eventually get tagged.

 

[LuckyMan]

We don't know how good Obitos Susanoo would be since he never had experience with it.

Minato still mid difficulties.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

We don't know how good Obitos Susanoo would be since he never had experience with it.

Minato still mid difficulties.

What does experience have do with this? Kakashi masterd it with Laughable Difficulty. And Minato has no offensive Jutsu to get past Susanoo

 

[Xlad]

Obito stomps Minato badly.

 

[Unorthodox]

Obito snipes

 

[RicardoA]

I think Minato would still deliver a Rasengan to his back.
If Tobirama canonically mid-diffed a MS user of Izuna's caliber at full power, i'm sure Minato's chances are at least good.

 

[Great Master Minato]

^ Obito would get negged if he doesn't use Susanoo like Izuna.

 

[Lariatoo]

Definitly Obito. Minato barely evaded his wrap when he was a teenager and when both eyes are together he becomes extremily faster.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Definitly Obito. Minato barely evaded his wrap when he was a teenager and when both eyes are together he becomes extremily faster.

Not really...FTG > any Kamui variant in speed & Minato > Obito in reaction & striking speed (Rikudo Chakra is restricted) so Obito's trump card would be Susanoo.

 

[wael reda]

Not really...FTG > any Kamui variant in speed & Minato > Obito in reaction & striking speed (Rikudo Chakra is restricted) so Obito's trump card would be Susanoo.

That is true that FTG is faster than kamui whatever but it isn't all about the speed ,FTG is faster than jin obito's gudoma stick attack ,however minato's arm was cut because his reactions wasn't enough ,minato's having FTG doesn't mean he would evade any attack that isn't instant ,if this attack is faster than minato can react in time ,then minato won't be able to evade in time

 

[Amaterasu]

What is this ? Obito wins no-diff

 

[Great Master Minato]

That is true that FTG is faster than kamui whatever but it isn't all about the speed ,FTG is faster than jin obito's gudoma stick attack ,however minato's arm was cut because his reactions wasn't enough ,minato's having FTG doesn't mean he would evade any attack that isn't instant ,if this attack is faster than minato can react in time ,then minato won't be able to evade in time

I already know that...I guess you're trying to say that Obito can snipe Minato right?
Minato has better reaction than Non-Rikudo enhanced Obito so he can utilize FTG faster than Obito can utilize Kamui thus warping away before getting sniped.

 

[wael reda]

I already know that...I guess you're trying to say that Obito can snipe Minato right?
Minato has better reaction than Non-Rikudo enhanced Obito so he can utilize FTG faster than Obito can utilize Kamui thus warping away before getting sniped.

It isnt a race ,minato won't use FTG(the defence) before obito use the kamui (the offense)

I also need some evidence that minato's reactions is better than adult obito's because I have some stuff for obito

 

[Great Master Minato]

It isnt a race ,minato won't use FTG(the defence) before obito use the kamui (the offense)

I also need some evidence that minato's reactions is better than adult obito's because I have some stuff for obito

During the fight with JJ Madara,Minato was able to place a Kunai under Madara before Kakashi can snipe Obito/BZ despite Kakashi utilizing long range Kamui before Minato attempted to toss the Kunai.

 

[wael reda]

During the fight with JJ Madara,Minato was able to place a Kunai under Madara before Kakashi can snipe Obito/BZ despite Kakashi utilizing long range Kamui before Minato attempted to toss the Kunai.

But:
- this was a split panel which means all this actions happened at the same time .
- the manga didn't show that minato threw the kunai the moment kakashi used kamui but it showed that the said kunai hit the ground the moment kakashi used kamui
-minato wasn't attacked by this kamui so it just happened that he did that at the same time ,that doesnt prove that he would react if he was attacked by kamui
- this wasn't necessarily top speed kamui

 

[Great Master Minato]

But:
- this was a split panel which means all this actions happened at the same time .
- the manga didn't show that minato threw the kunai the moment kakashi used kamui but it showed that the said kunai hit the ground the moment kakashi used kamui
-minato wasn't attacked by this kamui so it just happened that he did that at the same time ,that doesnt prove that he would react if he was attacked by kamui
- this wasn't necessarily top speed kamui

Mmm...ok another feat...Obito & Kakashi had to combine their Kamuis & basically use DMS Kamui in order to barely evade TSB while Minato was able to warp in front of them & warping them away along with himself without getting hit.
In other word he can warp atleast twis before a DMS Kamui warp can be done.

 

[Bogard]

Minato wins. He has means to bypass either Susanoo or intangibility with FTG swap or his support summoning nin/genjutsus, but together it will be harder. Still think he'd end up as the winner after a hard battle

 

[wael reda]

You give me a proof that ftg faster than kamui ,I already know that ftg is even faster than rikudo chakra enhanced doubled speed kamui
I just ask for a poof that minato would react to top speed long range kamui on his neck and use ftg before any part of his neck enters the kamui dimension
I am going to sleep now ,I would gave you my reasons why I think minato wouldnt most likely react in time tomorrow