Muu vs Itachi

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Depends on a few things

Which is faster Amertarasu or Jinton

Can YM block jinton?

However Mu's use of clones and his original fission can come quite in handy on having Itachi misfire

Amaterasu is faster and no it cannot.
 

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^^ Lol Amaterasu is on an entirely different level to jinton when it comes to speed
 

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I think Muu wins mid difficulty and beats Edo Itachi with high difficulty provided he ges sealing tags. He can go invisible then use weighted rock technique on Itachi's Susanoo to immobilize it, forcing Itachi to either waste chakra by maintaining it or dismantle it and leave him vulnerable to sword-in-the-neck. Muu can use jinton from behind a tree where Amaterasu can't reach him...Itachi can still disrupt prep time with Magatamas, but not if Muu immobilizes Susanoo first. Itachi isn't landing genjutsu on an opponent that he can't see, and who uses sensing anyway. If Itachi makes clones, Muu matches with rock clones or just wipes them out with jinton.

Muu kills Itachi with jinton, or with an invisible guerilla attack, or he outlasts.
 
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I'll go with Muu on this.

I consider him to be a good match up since he can hide his chakra to prevent the Sharingan from seeing him while he's invisible.

When that happens, he could put the entire fight in his favor since Susanoo will have to be used for protection on all sides though it could simply be a ribcage to prevent swords and knifes to the throat, head, or chest. Using Jinton might not be good though since he has to become visible and when that happens, Itachi could end the fight with Amaterasu if Muu is within sight.
 

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Weighted rock technique on Susano'o? Itachi can release it and then construct a new one in a matter of seconds. Not to mention if he gets that close totska would end him.

YM>Jinton as it covers a 360 shield around the Susano'o

Itachi's only problem is actually striking Mu
 

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Weighted rock technique on Susano'o? Itachi can release it and then construct a new one in a matter of seconds. Not to mention if he gets that close totska would end him.

If he does that then he's just throwing away an enormous amount of chakra and Muu can stab him before he manifests another Susanoo...and the exact same thing would happen again if he forms another Susanoo, anyway. How would Itachi attack him with Totsuka if Muu is invisible?

YM>Jinton as it covers a 360 shield around the Susano'o

Itachi's only problem is actually striking Mu

No Jinton tears through Yata Mirror. Nothing suggests Yata can tank it when jinton plowed through V3 Susanoo like it was nothing.
 

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If he does that then he's just throwing away an enormous amount of chakra and Muu can stab him before he manifests another Susanoo...and the exact same thing would happen again if he forms another Susanoo, anyway. How would Itachi attack him with Totsuka if Muu is invisible?

Pretty sure the user of Susano'o can feel when the Susano'o is touched as it is the users chakra. Plus sharingan means that he can see where chakra is being transferred to make the Susano'o heavier so he'll be able to spot him.



No Jinton tears through Yata Mirror. Nothing suggests Yata can tank it when jinton plowed through V3 Susanoo like it was nothing.

Its a spirit weapon that blocks almost any attack most likely Lol also pretty sure it was an enlarged Jinton that did that.
 

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i think Mu wins mid diff against alive Itachi and loses against Edo Itachi.
 

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Itachi wins.

Clones throws off Mu he won't know which is the real one. Once Muu goes to attack and falls for the clone feint he then took out with Amaterasu.

Also does Mu even have a counter for genjutsu didn't think so.
 

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Pretty sure the user of Susano'o can feel when the Susano'o is touched as it is the users chakra. Plus sharingan means that he can see where chakra is being transferred to make the Susano'o heavier so he'll be able to spot him.





Its a spirit weapon that blocks almost any attack most likely Lol also pretty sure it was an enlarged Jinton that did that.

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Combination of Katon to evaporate the water vapor + Sharingan eyes should allow Itachi to see Muu.
 

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Yata tanks Jinton i see no reason to believe it can't. Also Mu may be invisible but that doesn't mean he can't be caught in crow genjutsu or visual or finger genjutsu. Plus clones throw Mu of and does need to hide in Susanoo.
 

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Pretty sure the user of Susano'o can feel when the Susano'o is touched as it is the users chakra. Plus sharingan means that he can see where chakra is being transferred to make the Susano'o heavier so he'll be able to spot him.

You'll have to prove the bold because pretty sure doesn't cut it. Muu has used lightened-rock tech when invisible with his chakras hidden so no reason to believe using weighted tech would show his chakras to sharingan...and even if it does, Muu can just send in a fission body or rock clones to do the job.

Its a spirit weapon that blocks almost any attack most likely Lol also pretty sure it was an enlarged Jinton that did that.

Jinton has better feats than Yata, that's all it is. It has a 100% success rate the many times it was used. Hope you're not relying on databook hyperbole here. Yes it was an enlarged jinton but Tsunade only increased it in size, doesn't mean she increased its quality.
 

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Jinton has better feats than Yata, that's all it is. It has a 100% success rate the many times it was used. Hope you're not relying on databook hyperbole here. Yes it was an enlarged jinton but Tsunade only increased it in size, doesn't mean she increased its quality.

Yata also has 100% success rate, and has done what the databook states it to do. Lol
 

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You'll have to prove the bold because pretty sure doesn't cut it. Muu has used lightened-rock tech when invisible with his chakras hidden so no reason to believe using weighted tech would show his chakras to sharingan...and even if it does, Muu can just send in a fission body or rock clones to do the job.



Jinton has better feats than Yata, that's all it is. It has a 100% success rate the many times it was used. Hope you're not relying on databook hyperbole here. Yes it was an enlarged jinton but Tsunade only increased it in size, doesn't mean she increased its quality.

The larger it is the more chakra goes into it = the more damage it will able to deal. Especially in Jinton's case which basically wrecks everything in its path. But yeah YM has no feats unfortunately so we can't say much. I'd say maybe Jinton can crack it after a few tries. If he sends a fission can he keep them invisible as well?


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Itachi wins.

Clones throws off Mu he won't know which is the real one. Once Muu goes to attack and falls for the clone feint he then took out with Amaterasu.

Also does Mu even have a counter for genjutsu didn't think so.

Then Muu wipes the clones out with jinton. If he prepares jinton from behind a tree then Amaterasu can't reach him so Itachi can't interrupt jinton, and he can't attack with Susanoo because splitting his chakra among clones would mean he can't use it. Not to mention Itachi's only ever made 1 clone at a time. When Muu is invisible Itachi won't even know where to look so how would he land genjutsu? He might just end up wasting it on a rock clone and being a sensor with full intel Muu can just not look in Itachi's eyes, and if Itachi can't see him, he can't force eye contact and successfully land genjutsu.
 

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Onoki used weighted boulder on 5 legged Susanos and they just sat there. I dont think its that easy to simply shut susano off and turn it back on, I am guessing it adds a lot of pressure to the user.
 

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Yata also has 100% success rate, and has done what the databook states it to do. Lol

Except its success rate is good only against weak attacks. It repelled hydra heads and paper bombs. Saying it repels jinton because it repelled hydra heads is wrong because jinton >>>> hydra heads. Jinton can obliterate V3 Susanoo, Flower Tree World, Turtle Island, and has also done what the databook states it to do. It's true V4 Susanoo w/ Yata > V3 Susanoo, but when we take into consideration the fact that V3 would tank hydra heads with no damage (Yata's best feat) it's more likely for jinton to vaporize Susanoo than have it blocked by Yata.

The larger it is the more chakra goes into it = the more damage it will able to deal. Especially in Jinton's case which basically wrecks everything in its path. But yeah YM has no feats unfortunately so we can't say much. I'd say maybe Jinton can crack it after a few tries. If he sends a fission can he keep them invisible as well?

Yeah he's made his fission go invisible in the manga.
 
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