Deidara vs V2 Bee

[Beans2]

Location: Bee vs Kisame
Intel: Deidara is an Akatsuki hunting a bijuu
Distance: 50 meters
Restrictions: C0, BM

 

[Beans2]

EDIT: Bee starts in base and Deidara has a clay bird prepped.

 

[Haizaki]

B stomps with Samehada and wins low-med diff without it.

- C3 gets tanked in V2 or at least does minimal damage Samehada can heal.

- C4 tiny bombs gets its Chakra absorbed disabling it from blowing while in B.

- C1 and C2 are non factors for obvious reasons.

Without Samehada, B still wins

- Deidara's position while setting this off

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is bad when this could happen

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or he'll simply or when the blast takes place, a transformation to V2 state could deal with them

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- C3 is tanked or does at least less damage.

- C2/C1 is irrelevant in this fight

 

[Zexion~]

Lol at C4 getting its chakra absorbed they all won't touch samehada

Deidara's probably the lone Akatsuki that can win and thats only if bee doesn't notice he uses Doton although it would be tough for bee to hit Deidara once he goes air borne whats the only range he's got those pencils?

Its a high diff fight for Bee just because of how long it may take but Deidara can win

 

[RicardoA]

Bee is sort of a bad match up but way too overwhelming for Deidara.

 

[Beans2]

B stomps with Samehada and wins low-med diff without it.

- C3 gets tanked in V2 or at least does minimal damage Samehada can heal.

- C4 tiny bombs gets its Chakra absorbed disabling it from blowing while in B.

- C1 and C2 are non factors for obvious reasons.

Without Samehada, B still wins

- Deidara's position while setting this off

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is bad when this could happen

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or he'll simply or when the blast takes place, a transformation to V2 state could deal with them

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- C3 is tanked or does at least less damage.

- C2/C1 is irrelevant in this fight

You're gonna have to prove that Bee is tanking C3.

 

[Haizaki]

Lol at C4 getting its chakra absorbed they all won't touch samehada

If he doesn't merge then yes you're right... but he can have Samehdada constantly absorbing chakra from him during that period so when he eventually takes in the Nano bombs, the chakra is absorbed instantly.

You're gonna have to prove that Bee is tanking C3.

Well I based my logic on the fact that V2 is more durable than Gaara's sand.

 

[Beans2]

Well I based my logic on the fact that V2 is more durable than Gaara's sand.

Sure it's more durable than sand, but a massive sand shield that covered the village? No way, even small amounts of sand were tanking Susanoo slashes.

 

[Zexion~]

If he doesn't merge then yes you're right... but he can have Samehdada constantly absorbing chakra from him during that period so when he eventually takes in the Nano bombs, the chakra is absorbed instantly.

Whaaat he can't merge with it?

Eh I doubt it, the nano bombs still maintain their physical form in the body for a bit and samehada can't just absorb the explosions they would still go off and take out the body

 

[Haizaki]

Sure it's more durable than sand, but a massive sand shield that covered the village? No way, even small amounts of sand were tanking Susanoo slashes.

Susanoo slashes that can get past the cloak? Don't see your point with that when V2 would take those slashes since Raikiri should be able to get past the sand shield.

If he can't tank it, then he'll go underground

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to reduce the impact

You're probably going to say that's just their arm but you can see in the first the whole that was created in the bottom panel which is big enough to contain him in his V2 state underground. So he can go underground by using his chakra arm since he can do this to close up the gap created by them

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Just basically reducing the extension created by the arm by using the arm to draw himself underneath.

Whaaat he can't merge with it?

He should be able to given the fact that there was nothing in particular that gave Kisame the right to do so except the fact that he was the wielder of the blade. They had different Chakra natures but could still merge...Samehada likes B's chakra and has shown the the ability to pass chakra from Kisame to B which pretty much supports the fact that he should be able to if Samehada wants to.

Eh I doubt it, the nano bombs still maintain their physical form in the body for a bit and samehada can't just absorb the explosions they would still go off and take out the body

But if Samehada absorbs the chakra in the explosions, it won't be able to function since they are chakra infused. They maintain their physical form but without Chakra, it wouldn't.

 

[Zexion~]

He should be able to given the fact that there was nothing in particular that gave Kisame the right to do so except the fact that he was the wielder of the blade. They had different Chakra natures but could still merge...Samehada likes B's chakra and has shown the the ability to pass chakra from Kisame to B which pretty much supports the fact that he should be able to if Samehada wants to.

Nah you have to have a mastery over the blade to do that,

A wielder such as Kisame can take this fusion one step further, by completely merging with Samehada.

I don't think there is even a DB page on Samehada but unless he shows feats that show he may be able to it shouldn't be discussed. The fact that he already he's a jin also makes me doubt that he'd be able to.

But if Samehada absorbs the chakra in the explosions, it won't be able to function since they are chakra infused. They maintain their physical form but without Chakra, it wouldn't.

My man but Samehada wouldn't be in contact with them? All that would do is drain Bee's own chakra it can't physically touch them once they enter the body. Samehada only absorbs chakra it physically comes into contact with an object to absorb the chakra within it. Which it won't be able to do for all of them.

 

[Haizaki]

Nah you have to have a mastery over the blade to do that,

But it's Samehada who does the merging (Bottom)

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Samehada already has affinity for Hachibi and has shown to give them chakra and stamina.

I don't think there is even a DB page on Samehada but unless he shows feats that show he may be able to it shouldn't be discussed. The fact that he already he's a jin also makes me doubt that he'd be able to.

But that entry is from the wiki which also states this:

Samehada has the ability to transfer the chakra it has absorbed to the wielder by partially fusing with them, so it can be used to either revitalise the wielders chakra and stamina or instantly heal even fatal injuries

Something it did to B...Not to mention this is also true considering Kisame was having stamina given back to him before he the fully merged and we saw Samehada entering him before then..It has also shown this trait with B except for fully merging.

Considering there isn't any restriction given by the Manga or DB to why Kisame can merge with Sameahda, we can't give one to B since there wasn;t any condition given in the first place but we see the same traits shown with B. B now wields the blade and the blade according to Kisame has more than affinity for Hachibi as it is attached to it.

My man but Samehada wouldn't be in contact with them? All that would do is drain Bee's own chakra it can't physically touch them once they enter the body. Samehada only absorbs chakra it physically comes into contact with an object to absorb the chakra within it. Which it won't be able to do for all of them.

Probably...I'm too tired to think right now haha. Though he'll just attack Deidara before C4 is completed.

 

[Zexion~]

But it's Samehada who does the merging (Bottom)

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Samehada already has affinity for Hachibi and has shown to give them chakra and stamina.





But that entry is from the wiki which also states this:



Something it did to B...Not to mention this is also true considering Kisame was having stamina given back to him before he the fully merged and we saw Samehada entering him before then..It has also shown this trait with B except for fully merging.

Considering there isn't any restriction given by the Manga or DB to why Kisame can merge with Sameahda, we can't give one to B since there wasn;t any condition given in the first place but we see the same traits shown with B. B now wields the blade and the blade according to Kisame has more than affinity for Hachibi as it is attached to it.






Probably...I'm too tired to think right now haha. Though he'll just attack Deidara before C4 is completed.

Yeah but the fact that only Kisame has ever shown to do it may mean that Kisame's chakra is just compatible with Samehada's (He's shark like to begin with ) Samehada liking bee's Jin chakra doesn't mean that the Jin chakra will like Samehada Bee just hasn't shown to be able to handle Samehada with the mastery Kisame has

Besides if he merges and he's not in water he gets wrecked as he won't be able to move fast at all, meanwhile Deidara can detonate them before they touch him and the force would still hit him hard.

 

[KidGamer65]

There's also the fact that Samehada and B have identical chakras.

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[Haizaki]

There's also the fact that Samehada and B have identical chakras.

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You meant to say Kisame but sorry pal Lol.

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[Zexion~]

You meant to say Kisame but sorry pal Lol.

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My man Zetsu is saying that is what the sensors Believe


But yeah thanks KG

 

[KidGamer65]

My man Zetsu is saying that is what the sensors Believe


But yeah thanks KG

Not sure how that'd even debunk Kisame's own words where he clearly states "Samehada and I have identical chakras" anyway.

 

[Zexion~]

Not sure how that'd even debunk Kisame's own words where he clearly states "Samehada and I have identical chakras" anyway.

True Dat lot a weird arguments surrounding that fight lately.

Let me ask you do you think Oro in Zetsu body could copy Kisame's "abilities"?

 

[KidGamer65]

True Dat lot a weird arguments surrounding that fight lately.

Let me ask you do you think Oro in Zetsu body could copy Kisame's "abilities"?

Nope. EjBlack tried to convince you otherwise amirite? I saw a bit of that argument. It's nonsense.

1. Parasitic Clones are weaker than the original, which in this case would be Orochimaru.

2. Zero proof that Orochimaru has the chakra to replicate Kisame's abilities at their regular level let alone Orochimaru's fodder clones.

3. Zero proof that they can even use the original's techniques to begin with. All they do is copy the appearance and chakra signature of the person they made contact with. Nothing ever said or implied that their jutsu would be copied too...but even if they can. Fodder clones from Oro aren't using Kisame's techs.

 

[Haizaki]

My man Zetsu is saying that is what the sensors Believe


But yeah thanks KG

No...Sensors couldn't tell because of the fact that Samehada absorbs his chakra making it seem like they have the same when they actually don't. Very clear...They naturally do not have the same chakra but because Samehada is able to absorb his chakra, that's what makes sensors believe they do. If not, Zetsu won't have made the statement about people thinking they have the same chakra when they actually do. That statement signifies they don't but people think they do.

Very clear....The scan KG showed clearly shows when Kisame is merged with Samehada.When they are one which means they both have the same at that point so there's no differentiating between both at that point as a matter of fact.