Kisame vs Hokages

[KingHashirama]

Can't beat 1-6, maybe Kakashi? but even then i assume Kakashi grew stronger.

 

[KidGamer65]

then he summons sharks to swim after Tobirama and his clones and kill him
sharks' swimming underwater > tobirama's swimming speed

tobirama would get overwhelmed by all the sharks.

Doesn't matter if they are faster, his sharks can't even take out Tobirama. He'd just retaliate w/ something like Suidanha.

I guess he did show he could do it in the waning chapters *sigh* Kishi is such a troll.

Even with the kunai Kisame still wins. With water dome. We all know its exceedingly harder to throw things underwater so his FTG Kunai isn't providing any means for escape.

Read above.

Speed feats that put him over Bee/MS Sasuke?

Stated to be faster than a guy who almost blitzed SM Naruto. Feats of either being able to do the same?

Everything he has gets tanked except you're shitty speed arguments which are useless underwater, so regardless if any large scale suiton is released he loses. Even if its not WD Kisame can still go under.

LOL, are you still insisting that this guy can win w/o water dome? Can we stop this? Who cares if he can go under? When he wants to attack Tobirama, he has to come up, and that's when he gets attacked. No water dome means Tobirama is not trapped, his movement are not impaired, thus Kisame can't react.

If WD is up, he uses multiple clones and Hiraishin to escape. Kisame can't follow them all, so one eventually gets out.

 

[Beans2]

^Tobirama's clones taking out dozen, hundreds of sharks underwater with something like Suidanha? You sure about that?

Or: water clones. Which theoretically can merge with their clone copies of Samehada.

 

[makosheva7]

Uggh. I hate Kisame because of NB.

 

[Zexion~]

Doesn't matter if they are faster, his sharks can't even take out Tobirama. He'd just retaliate w/ something like Suidanha.


Read above.



Stated to be faster than a guy who almost blitzed SM Naruto. Feats of either being able to do the same?



LOL, are you still insisting that this guy can win w/o water dome? Can we stop this? Who cares if he can go under? When he wants to attack Tobirama, he has to come up, and that's when he gets attacked. No water dome means Tobirama is not trapped, his movement are not impaired, thus Kisame can't react.

If WD is up, he uses multiple clones and Hiraishin to escape. Kisame can't follow them all, so one eventually gets out.

He doesn't have to come up actually...he can fuse and then merely fire off a GSB from underwater.


Key word there is "stated" was it not stated that Sasuke was a god in speed?

Hype is Hype >.>

 

[Unorthodox]

If you can't read the manga and/or you are a troll, then yes, you'd believe Kisame shits.

bish shutup with this you cant read the manga shit everytime i disagree with you i already owned yo punk ass in this matchup in the past aswell

Kisame stomps and if they try to run he outlast end of discussion

 

[AmaniPaz]

All but Hashirama and Naruto

 

[Transcendence]

I guess he did show he could do it in the waning chapters *sigh* Kishi is such a troll.

Even with the kunai Kisame still wins. With water dome. We all know its exceedingly harder to throw things underwater so his FTG Kunai isn't providing any means for escape.

Speed feats that put him over Bee/MS Sasuke?

Everything he has gets tanked except you're shitty speed arguments which are useless underwater, so regardless if any large scale suiton is released he loses. Even if its not WD Kisame can still go under.

Scaling.

Madara who is equal to Hashirama in speed blitzed SM Naruto (who has much better reactions than Kisame) and Tobirama was known as the fastest of his generation, faster than both of them.

 

[KidGamer65]

He doesn't have to come up actually...he can fuse and then merely fire off a GSB from underwater.

Then it's dodged via Hiraishin.

Key word there is "stated" was it not stated that Sasuke was a god in speed?

Hyperbole=/=Fact. Sasuke being stated to be a god in speed means that he is extremely fast. Is Sasuke extremely fast? Yes he is. So no matter how we take this, I'm still right.

Hype is Hype >.>

Lol, it's not though.

bish shutup with this you cant read the manga shit everytime i disagree with you i already owned yo punk ass in this matchup in the past aswell

Kisame stomps and if they try to run he outlast end of discussion

Lol, I've shitted on you way too many times for me to bother.

^Tobirama's clones taking out dozen, hundreds of sharks underwater with something like Suidanha? You sure about that?

Hundreds?

Unless these sharks are durable, more durable than the god tree's branches, I see no reason why they wouldn't be cut. Not to mention he doesn't need to destroy all of them, he only needs to play tag at the very least. Hiraishin lets the original jump to his clones.

Or: water clones. Which theoretically can merge with their clone copies of Samehada.

No reason to believe that clones with 10% of the user's power can replicate one of Kisame's top forms.

 

[Unorthodox]

Lol, I've shitted on you way too many times for me to bother.

on different topics not this one

also you never shitted on me once child you won like twice or once and it was by a hair

 

[Mugen Onsa]

Tsunade would shitstomp that fool...... Rofl. Her chakra is leagues above his chakra.

 

[Beans2]

Hundreds?

Unless these sharks are durable, more durable than the god tree's branches, I see no reason why they wouldn't be cut. Not to mention he doesn't need to destroy all of them, he only needs to play tag at the very least. Hiraishin lets the original jump to his clones.



No reason to believe that clones with 10% of the user's power can replicate one of Kisame's top forms.

the water sharks kisame made 1000 of em

playing tag with sharks gets tobirama nowhere only delays the inevitable tobirama still is underwater and cant breathe he isnt swimming outside the water domes range when theres a hundred sharks on his ass and they are all faster than him

ah yes but 10% is a lot when we're talking about kisame. and the samehada copies only have 10% power as well so it would just be a weaker version of kisamehada.

 

[KidGamer65]

the water sharks kisame made 1000 of em

playing tag with sharks gets tobirama nowhere only delays the inevitable tobirama still is underwater and cant breathe he isnt swimming outside the water domes range when theres a hundred sharks on his ass and they are all faster than him

ah yes but 10% is a lot when we're talking about kisame. and the samehada copies only have 10% power as well so it would just be a weaker version of kisamehada.

Ok, I'll agree. Tobirama loses, w/o intel.

 

[Zexion~]

Scaling.

Madara who is equal to Hashirama in speed blitzed SM Naruto (who has much better reactions than Kisame) and Tobirama was known as the fastest of his generation, faster than both of them.

:|

That could easily mean after they both died and he became second hokage my man. Not to mention Bee> MS Sasuke who has better reactions then SM Naruto imo....

 

[KidGamer65]

:|

That could easily mean after they both died and he became second hokage my man.

Madara already stated in manga that Tobirama was once hailed as the fastest man, so no. He was faster than Madara.

Not to mention Bee> MS Sasuke who has better reactions then SM Naruto imo....

Except he doesn't. Not by feats.

 

[Zexion~]

Madara already stated in manga that Tobirama was once hailed as the fastest man, so no. He was faster than Madara.



Except he doesn't. Not by feats.

*sigh* Hype hype hype, is a beautiful thing

Anyways how does he not?

 

[Bogard]

He beats Tsunade and sadly Kakashi too(he lost his Sharingan anyway). Maybe the old version of Hiruzen too. I think he has a chance against Tobirama, but the toads give Minato the decisive advantage. Hashirama stomps him however

 

[KidGamer65]

*sigh* Hype hype hype, is a beautiful thing

Anyways how does he not?

SM Naruto already reacted to Madara, who's Shunshin is far above that of Killer B's. Sasuke has no reaction feat on that level. SM Naruto's reaction against the Third Raikage far surpasses Sasuke's reaction feat against Ay. SM Naruto swung around his Nukite after he purposely waited till the last minute, and landed his counter attack. Sasuke only ducked.

 

[Zexion~]

SM Naruto already reacted to Madara, who's Shunshin is far above that of Killer B's. Sasuke has no reaction feat on that level. SM Naruto's reaction against the Third Raikage far surpasses Sasuke's reaction feat against Ay. SM Naruto swung around his Nukite after he purposely waited till the last minute, and landed his counter attack. Sasuke only ducked.

Isn't AY Faster then the third though? What he lacks in speed from his son he makes up in durability no?

Ducked and managed to maneuver enton U_U

 

[KidGamer65]

Isn't AY Faster then the third though? What he lacks in speed from his son he makes up in durability no?

Ducked and managed to maneuver enton U_U

He's only faster when he uses V2. He used V1 there.

Lol, when he ducked he used Chidori, not sure what Enton you are talking about.