BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke vs 8 Gates Gai

[Beans2]

Location: Madara vs Gai
Intel: Full
Conditions: Sasuke has Juugo boosting his Susanoo with senjutsu. Gai starts in 7th Gate

Distance: 200 meters

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Guy goes 8th then puts his fist up their ass

 

[Haizaki]

Evening Elephant

 

[Great Master Minato]

Evening Elephant GG

Fixed It =D

 

[Gold Lightning]

Sasuke and Jugo will die.

However if Naruto can makes 1000 shadow clones or so, and then all shunshin off into different directions. Then Naruto will probably survive until the eight gate passes.

 

[Haizaki]

Fixed It =D

Haha plus Gai has to open the 8th first or he'd get stomped

 

[Amaterasu]

Gai starts at 7th gate and the distance is 200 meters ? Interesting, very interesting...

If Naruto and Sasuke starts faster than gai, they can make a Bijuudama + Susanoo Arrow GG

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Gai starts at 7th gate and the distance is 200 meters ? Interesting, very interesting...

If Naruto and Sasuke starts faster than gai, they can make a Bijuudama + Susanoo Arrow GG

That crap isn't touching 5th gate guy let alone 7th Gate at that distance.

 

[Amaterasu]

That crap isn't touching 5th gate guy let alone 7th Gate at that distance.

Bijuudamas are fast, and makes a big radius at explosion, if Gai is at 50m, he still get knocked by shockwaves and the only things he got to deflect it are Evening Elephant and Daytime Tiger.

But, I agree that if he opens the 8th Gate, he stomps them in less than a minute

 

[DemonicAvenger]

The only way Gai ever beats either of them is with an intial blitz, otherwise he doesn't have the firepower to take them down

- Gai's Sekizo was blocked by JJ Madara

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(Although he was pushed back) and did no damage when he blocked with a Gudodama. That level of attack isn't getting through Naruto's BSM avatar tails, which without even a Senjutsu buff blocked the V1 Juubi's Bijudama. Sasuke PS with Juugo boosting it and Naruto's BSM avatar (main body) are Senjutsu Bijudama level in durability by scaling. So Gai isn't getting through either of their defenses

- Yaiga has a period where he has to sit there and charge, in this hypothetical scenario Naruto/Sasuke won't sit there and gloat while he does so like Madara did. Gai gets nuked the minute he tries to use it

- Gai can't avoid there AoE when he's fighting in close, so them being blitz material hardly matters​

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[KidGamer65]

-A direct hit from an attack 2x the strength of a normal Bijuu Dama would only deal very minuscule damage to the BM Avatar or Sasuke's regular PS. Add Senjutsu to both and that damage is even more minuscule. Fuse Naruto and Sasuke's Avatars together and that damage is reduced to zero, assuming the Senjutsu boost isn't enough to do that. Give Sasuke a cloak to boost his PS's defensive power and it'd take something far stronger than a Senjutsu Bijuu Dama x2 to scratch it...that doesn't even factor in Kurama's tails.

-A direct hit from Gai's Evening Elephant smashed Madara through the Gudo Dama, so it's stronger than a small Senjutsu Bijuu Dama and a KCC enhanced Senjutsu Susanoo Arrow, but strong enough that'd let it damage a construct that is the BM Avatar (blocked Juubilaser with it's tails) and PS (can take Bijuu Dama with negligible damage) fused together, with an over 3x boost applied to Sasuke's own PS and a Senjutsu boost applied? Highly doubt it. A direct hit is tanked, let alone a hit from the air cannon.

-Avoiding AoE attacks is going to be nigh impossible since Gai is a Taijutsu figher.

-Eighth Gate isn't going to last longer than Naruto and Sasuke last.

The only way Gai can even begin to think about getting past the Avatar is by using Night Gai, and even then it's not clear if he'll get past and do enough damage to kill them. Even if he does and they do die, it's a tie since he dies right after.


Naruto and Sasuke probably win unless Gai can blitz and kill them before they set up their fusion, but with him starting in the 7th Gate, and with full intel and a distance of 200m....that isn't happening, ever.

 

[Haizaki]

The only way Gai ever beats either of them is with an intial blitz, otherwise he doesn't have the firepower to take them down

- Gai's Sekizo was blocked by JJ Madara

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(Although he was pushed back) and did no damage when he blocked with a Gudodama. That level of attack isn't getting through Naruto's BSM avatar tails, which without even a Senjutsu buff blocked the V1 Juubi's Bijudama. Sasuke PS with Juugo boosting it and Naruto's BSM avatar (main body) are Senjutsu Bijudama level in durability by scaling. So Gai isn't getting through either of their defenses​

Gai's Seziko isn't just one step and there's the fact that it gets stronger so I don't see why multiple punches won't get past the cloak considering Gai could exert enough strength to do much damage to the TSB shield than what the combination of both Naruto's Senjutsu enhanced Bijuudama and the Sususanoo arrow which was also enhanced by Senjutsu did

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That damage is nothing compared that of Gai's direct punch.


In reference to Kurama's tails, he must be able to react to block Gai's attacks but I fail to see him doing that when Naruto was struggling to sense Juubito whose speed is lower than that of Gai. It should be put down after multiple punches when you think of the fact that SS could break through Madara's PS but only created this crater

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which is pretty inferior to what 1 punch did let alone more than one direct punch which is stronger.


As for the bold, Seziko can't be blocked.

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When EE hit the TSB shield, it passed through it

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, the same way it passed through Madara afterwards

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. The only thing was the portion that hit the shield was blocked but you can see that Madara wasn't hit because of that portion of EE the shield blocked in that scenario. The shield was big or wide enough to defend him. That's why the remaining EE passed through him but didn't hit him despite blocking his vision. Meaning it can't be defended against without a shield as EE was bigger than the shield and Madara as well.

It's not just cuz of the force. The shield itself has better defensive capability than Madara's body and yet EE passed through the shield in the scan I showed you so there's no way Madara would have blocked it. Look at Madara coming out the crater here

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Far bigger than him. How's he blocking that? Matter of fact he reacted but didn't block anything or it would have passed through him. I don't see how he's blocking air pressure without a shield.

The only reasonable thing is that EE was first used and as soon as it hit Madara, it started spreading as soon it hit him if you look at this scan properly

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you can see it spreading as soon as it hit.

- Yaiga has a period where he has to sit there and charge, in this hypothetical scenario Naruto/Sasuke won't sit there and gloat while he does so like Madara did. Gai gets nuked the minute he tries to use it

Not a wise decision when facing two opponents.

- Gai can't avoid there AoE when he's fighting in close, so them being blitz material hardly matters

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But at the same time, they can't use large scale attacks (as it's not smart)in a CQC while Gai can. If Naruto decides to use a Bijuudama, punches it into his mouth or rather Gai can easily deflect it like how Naruto or through other means:

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[Conspirator.]

Probably team 1 high diff.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bijuudamas are fast, and makes a big radius at explosion, if Gai is at 50m, he still get knocked by shockwaves and the only things he got to deflect it are Evening Elephant and Daytime Tiger.

But, I agree that if he opens the 8th Gate, he stomps them in less than a minute

He's at 200 m. More than enough time to get away from both bijuu Dama and it's shockwave, especially since he starts out from 7th gate.

 

[Bogard]

Naruto solos this

 

[maniaoqan]

Gai ends their youths.

 

[Omar19992010]

Might Guy ends them. The Team gets Blitzed before they can ever hope to react.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke solos

Perfect susanoo tanks anything in gai arsenal

 

[KidGamer65]

Gai's Seziko isn't just one step and there's the fact that it gets stronger so I don't see why multiple punches won't get past the cloak considering Gai could exert enough strength to do much damage to the TSB shield than what the combination of both Naruto's Senjutsu enhanced Bijuudama and the Sususanoo arrow which was also enhanced by Senjutsu did

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That damage is nothing compared that of Gai's direct punch.

1. Sekizo doesn't get stronger with more hits, Gai's attack only gets faster.

2. My post already addresses why Gai isn't getting past it.

In reference to Kurama's tails, he must be able to react to block Gai's attacks but I fail to see him doing that when Naruto was struggling to sense Juubito whose speed is lower than that of Gai. It should be put down after multiple punches when you think of the fact that SS could break through Madara's PS but only created this crater

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which is pretty inferior to what 1 punch did let alone more than one direct punch which is stronger.

They were only struggling in the beginning, once they adapted they had no trouble, so it's gonna go like that everytime afterwards, no sweat, but yeah, Gai is faster, but he can't even get past the main body nor can he string together a barrage of attacks that'd last so long that Naruto and Sasuke would never have the opportunity to block.

Evening Elephant's direct hit is nowhere near a Senjutsu Bijuu Dama let alone SS's Chojo Kebutsu. Madara got hit, took no damage. Madara tanked it with his Gudo Dama. No damage. Yet a Bijuu Dama did damage.

So yeah, Gai has no way to get past the duo's defenses, at least not with Evening Elephant.

Might Guy ends them. The Team gets Blitzed before they can ever hope to react.

-Starts in the 7th Gate.

-Naruto and Sasuke have Full Intel.

-Distance is 200m.

Yet a blitz is happening? Lol, are you kidding me?

 

[Haizaki]

1. Sekizo doesn't get stronger with more hits, Gai's attack only gets faster.

It does become stronger which is why I actually think multiple can pass through.

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Evening Elephant (Sekizou) (p. 263)
A-rank; Offensive; Close-range
User: Might Guy

“A Surge of Violently Burning Life——The “Eight Celestial Gates” Ultimate Secret!!

Releasing one’s power remitters to draw out power until the utmost limit, by opening the “Eight Gates Released Formation”, The Eighth Gate [Gate of Death], this taijutsu can be activated. For a moment, (one is) able to gain power even greater than the 5 kage (combined) however, the jutsu-caster will definitely reach death after its use — a double-edged sword. It is actually a super-speed hit/strike in air, a hitting (offensive) air-cannon.

There are *1 to 5 levels (steps, phases) of speed; raising the gear will increase the power.

(Guy vs Madara): Hitting out with unstoppable speed before the eyes, a great barrage of attacks in the face of death (to certain-death)! Might Guy had unleashed “Evening Elephant”, and overwhelmed even Madara who had become the Ten-Tails Jinchuuriki.”

If you think of it, Madara tried to evade 4-5 hits which pretty much implied the damage done becomes even worse asides from the fact that the punches become stronger.

2. My post already addresses why Gai isn't getting past it.

Well I'm guessing you were only referring to one direct hit? Because if it does get stronger, a repeated process of EE directly would break through eventually. I mean if this

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could put down to avatar, I'm pretty sure direct EE multiple times can do so cuz it's much more stronger.

They were only struggling in the beginning, once they adapted they had no trouble, so it's gonna go like that everytime afterwards, no sweat, but yeah, Gai is faster, but he can't even get past the main body nor can he string together a barrage of attacks that'd last so long that Naruto and Sasuke would never have the opportunity to block.

Considering the fact that Gai gets faster and they can't react to him, I don't really see them reacting with a block.

Even if they do block, I'm positive Gai's direct hit multiple times can eventually break through their defenses.

Evening Elephant's direct hit is nowhere near a Senjutsu Bijuu Dama let alone SS's Chojo Kebutsu. Madara got hit, took no damage. Madara tanked it with his Gudo Dama. No damage. Yet a Bijuu Dama did damage.

It did more damage to the TSB that the Senjutsu Bijuudama did though and Chojo Kebutsu has more range but isn't focused unlike EE when hit directly.

Unless you're talking about the indirect punch?

Plus it would be terrible if Naruto does try to attack with a Bijuudama which he'll most likely do...And if he attacks physically, the main body is left opened for a counter which Gai can capitalize on.