Kisame vs Tsunade

[King Kendrick]

Not as much as you can give me a scan where it states suiton users not only create water but salt as well. Oh look that didnt happen.

* slow clap * good one ... Assuming kishi got a highschool education i would assume that he made sure to make the sharks live in salt water like they're supposed to . Your statement though makes absolutely no sense to me , those look like some regular sharks not bullsharks or whatever .

 

[King Kendrick]

Which means what? They arent real.

Doesn't change the fact that they're made of salt water .

 

[RedRobin]

Doesn't change the fact that they're made of salt water .

But it doesnt matter what they are made out of. This proves noting to the point that suiton users create salt water.

 

[King Kendrick]

But it doesnt matter what they are made out of. This proves noting to the point that suiton users create salt water.

Dont have to . What if theyre near a body of salt water ?

 

[RedRobin]

Dont have to . What if theyre near a body of salt water ?

If a suiton user is near a body of salt water they can use the water. I dont know what the point of the question is.

Suiton users create chakra water, not real water. Especially not salt water.

 

[King Kendrick]

If a suiton user is near a body of salt water they can use the water. I dont know what the point of the question is.

Suiton users create chakra water, not real water. Especially not salt water.

*Facepalm* Im out peeps .

 

[RedRobin]

*Facepalm* Im out peeps .

They can use whatever water is around them but they cant create salt water, that is some fanfic people have created.

 

[King Kendrick]

They can use whatever water is around them but they cant create salt water, that is some fanfic people have created.

why would there be a need to create salt water if the salts already in the body of water , hence making it salt water ??

 

[RedRobin]

why would there be a need to create salt water if the salts already in the body of water , hence making it salt water ??

There woulnt be a need. But there is no salt water around.

 

[Beans2]

They werent real sharks. They were made out of water.

My bad I forgot that.

Not as much as you can give me a scan where it states suiton users not only create water but salt as well. Oh look that didnt happen.

Has it ever, possibly, occurred to you...that not all suiton users use the same type of water?

They can use whatever water is around them but they cant create salt water, that is some fanfic people have created.

Just stop. Anyone with a high school education knows that almost all sharks swim in salt water while relatively few people even know that freshwater sharks exist, and the probability that Kisame uses salt water with his suitons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the probability that he for some reason summons freshwater sharks. That was a weak argument to begin with.

The fact that

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[RedRobin]

Has it ever, possibly, occurred to you...that not all suiton users use the same type of water?

Why would that occur to me? There is absolutely nothing to show this. Suiton is used in different ways but all the same type of chakra water.

Just stop. Anyone with a high school education knows that almost all sharks swim in salt water while relatively few people even know that freshwater sharks exist, and the probability that Kisame uses salt water with his suitons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the probability that he for some reason summons freshwater sharks. That was a weak argument to begin with.

The fact that

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already ends this argument.

Its actually not a argument, he literally only summoned an actual shark in the ocean, he never summoned one in his body of chakra water. When he did, the shark was there for 5 sec.

Chakra water is not salt water. There is nothing to show this, its not actual water. I mean it disappears a while after its been produced.

 

[Zexion~]

If Kisame uses salt water he would not of been able to speak after spouting it from his mouth lml

 

[Forbidden Technique]

The scan only proved Tsunade's striking speed is equal to base Ay.

Which is nothing to brag about.

out·ma·neu·ver : evade (an opponent) by moving faster or with greater agility.

The first instance where Kisame engaged V1 Bee happened in

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The second instance were in

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How do their heads colliding on a headbutt equals outmaneuvering Bee?

How does Kisame blocking with his sword then pushing Bee back equals outmaneuvering Bee?

....Really? We're really going here?

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@ bold, that's pretty piss poor manga interpretation you got there.

Lol.
Factor in how fast byakugoy tsunade was against Madara, you are underrating her.
And kisame isn't even that fast

Byakugou Tsunade isn't anywhere near V2 Bee speed, which is around the speed one would have to obtain in order to overwhelm Kisame in CQC. Then if we factor Kisames unrestricted Jutsu into that equation, Tsunade doesn't stand a chance. You're overrating her. Kisame's speed and reaction/reflexes are more then serviceable here.

What striking speed feat from base Gai is superior to casually deflecting five dragons of fire through the momentum of her arm movement alone?

Post the scan you speak of please, then I'll give you base Gai's feats.

lmmfao hahahahahaha bruhhhhhhh she hit you with that "Pooh"!!!! ?????????

Lmfao smh, did me wrong there Lol

 

[RedRobin]

Kisame wins. He traps her in water prison and drowns her. Kisame also outmanoeuvred v1 Bee in a CQC bout. The same happens to Tsunade, and her chakra reserves will consistently get depleted. This is a rout.

Tsunade easily escapes by summoning Katsuyu outside of the prison and stopping the concentration of whoever is holding the prison up.

Tsunade can summon Katsuyu to the side of her, it does not have to be under her.

Samehada absorbed the cloaks already outside of Bee's body easily.

 

[Beans2]

Why would that occur to me? There is absolutely nothing to show this. Suiton is used in different ways but all the same type of chakra water.



Its actually not a argument, he literally only summoned an actual shark in the ocean, he never summoned one in his body of chakra water. When he did, the shark was there for 5 sec.

Chakra water is not salt water. There is nothing to show this, its not actual water. I mean it disappears a while after its been produced.

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[RedRobin]

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Why would that occur to me? There is absolutely nothing to show this. Suiton is used in different ways but all the same type of chakra water.



Its actually not a argument, he literally only summoned an actual shark in the ocean, he never summoned one in his body of chakra water. When he did, the shark was there for 5 sec.

Chakra water is not salt water. There is nothing to show this, its not actual water. I mean it disappears a while after its been produced.

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[LuckyMan]

....Really? We're really going here?

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@ bold, that's pretty piss poor manga interpretation you got there.

Nothing is piss poor about the interpretation because thats exactly what happened. Lol

We all know Bee is extremely good in CQC. You claimed Kisame "outmaneuvered" Bee and tried to twist those weak ass scans to support your argument as if Kisame would easily beat Tsunade in CQC. Lol

Bee headbutted Kisame. Kisame blocked Bees stab.

Thats all that happened and theres nothing in those panels that demonstrates he'd beat her in CQC. Anything else you try to squeeze out of that brief confrontation fan fiction. Lol

 

[KingHashirama]

Didn't she unleash the seal right away during the war? Her stamina's near infinite when its released.



Lml is it true or nah.



Really now in one leap? Not only was Bee keeping up with MS Sasuke ( Who if you think Tsunade beats in CQC Please choke slam yourself) But he was even outspeeding his Sharingan. He also dealed without any effort at all Jugo who attacks in a similar way as Tsunade does, Dashing and brute strength

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Faster striking speed? You have to be insane to ever think that..

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Bee has one of if not THE fastest strikes in the manga in CQC and would chop Tsunade up like Sushi, yet Kisame was able to go blow to blow with him, as Kisame's mastered the art of fighting with Samehada. He can block Bee so he can block Tsunade end of story.



He beats, Oro,Tsunade,Tobirama,Minato ( Base), Hiruzen, only reason he doesn't beat Jiraiya is because he's screwed when he absorbs his chakra in SM, if he starts in base he easily has a chance.

Yet hes not even above Ay in Kumo....... please stop the Killer B wanking. Its getting pretty tiring, when all you people decide to put these flashy feats as if they somehow are supposed to be impressive.

He beats the Shinobi no kami Hiruzen? Rofll ok mate.

 

[Beans2]

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Maybe you're not reading the manga correctly but in between the time the shark was summoned and the shark disappeared:

-Kisame died.
-Shark didn't die until after the suiton was completely destroyed.
-Shark didn't die until it hit the ground and went poof.

It wasn't a matter of salt water vs fresh water that the shark disappeared. Kisame summoned a shark in the ocean = his sharks are marine. Kisame summoned a shark in his suiton = suiton is salt water.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Nothing is piss poor about the interpretation because thats exactly what happened. Lol

We all know Bee is extremely good in CQC. You claimed Kisame "outmaneuvered" Bee and tried to twist those weak ass scans to support your argument as if Kisame would easily beat Tsunade in CQC. Lol

Bee headbutted Kisame. Kisame blocked Bees stab.

Thats all that happened and theres nothing in those panels that demonstrates he'd beat her in CQC. Anything else you try to squeeze out of that brief confrontation fan fiction. Lol

Please tell me more, Ray Charles. I'm not referring to the headbutt. Obviously.