Kisame vs Tsunade

[Zexion~]

FT beat me to it

Handling Bee in CQC is easily enough to wipe the floor with Tsunade if she throws a punch and ends up hitting the massive sword her strength would be negated and chakra would begin to be absorbed

 

[KingHashirama]

FT beat me to it

Handling Bee in CQC is easily enough to wipe the floor with Tsunade if she throws a punch and ends up hitting the massive sword her strength would be negated and chakra would begin to be absorbed

Acting as if Killer B's CQC is somehow superior to Tsunade is pretty naive.

Is deadpool better than the hulk in CQC? Not that i know of.

 

[LuckyMan]

Unfortunately, Kisame and Samehada had no problem reacting and outmaneuvering V1 Bee in CQC. Try again, boo.

out·ma·neu·ver : evade (an opponent) by moving faster or with greater agility.

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How do their heads colliding on a headbutt equals outmaneuvering Bee?

How does Kisame blocking with his sword then pushing Bee back equals outmaneuvering Bee?

 

[FemmeFatale]

You didn't just call me that, Lol.

Tsunade isn't anywhere near Ay in terms of speed and reflexes, lol. But you know what? Even if we were to go by that false and absurd claim, it still isn't helping you. V1 Bee and Ay did a double lariat together to decapitate the Zetsu-Kisame clone. So going by your logic, V1 Bee=Ay=Tsunade in speed, correct? Unfortunately, Kisame and Samehada had no problem reacting and outmaneuvering V1 Bee in CQC. Try again, boo.

Lol.
Factor in how fast byakugoy tsunade was against Madara, you are underrating her.
And kisame isn't even that fast

 

[Zexion~]

Acting as if Killer B's CQC is somehow superior to Tsunade is pretty naive.

Is deadpool better than the hulk in CQC? Not that i know of.

What the hell kind of analogy is that? He's loads better? All he needs to do is maneuver onto his back. Anyways only thing that makes hulk even decent at CQC is his reach combined with strength which unfortunately Tsunade lacks. So yeah not to mention Part one Kabuto was giving her the fight of her life.

 

[RedRobin]

What the hell kind of analogy is that? He's loads better? All he needs to do is maneuver onto his back. Anyways only thing that makes hulk even decent at CQC is his reach combined with strength which unfortunately Tsunade lacks. So yeah not to mention Part one Kabuto was giving her the fight of her life.

Referring to this holds no grounds at all. This isnt part 1 Tsunade. Its cannon fact she hadnt fought in like 20 years and was rusty.

 

[Zexion~]

Referring to this holds no grounds at all. This isnt part 1 Tsunade. Its cannon fact she hadnt fought in like 20 years and was rusty.

Please tell me what she's been doing since then? Oh yeah that's right sitting in a desk signing papers.....

 

[Made in Heaven]

tsunade imo .

 

[RedRobin]

Please tell me what she's been doing since then? Oh yeah that's right sitting in a desk signing papers.....

As hokage with duties I would argue she began working out again to build her muscles back. This is even more clear when she fights in the war and doesnt lose her breathe so easily like in part 1.

 

[KingHashirama]

What the hell kind of analogy is that? He's loads better? All he needs to do is maneuver onto his back. Anyways only thing that makes hulk even decent at CQC is his reach combined with strength which unfortunately Tsunade lacks. So yeah not to mention Part one Kabuto was giving her the fight of her life.

The fact your best argument against Tsunade is the part 1 fight... is kind of pathetic.. especially since you are supposed to be a top-notch debater. Thats something you'd expect a troll or a newbie who didn't read the manga properly to mention.

You compared Killer B's weapon cqc to Tsunade's fist to fist cqc.. major flaws. Tsunade herself with one leap can trash on Killer B's CQC.. (just take a long leap back and done.)

Tsunade also has a faster striking speed and a faster close shunshin than Killer B. Shown o multiple cases... Soooo yea buddy.

Kisame is not beating any of the Hokage or the Sanin. (thought an argument can be made for Kakashi)

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Why is this even being debated...

 

[Zexion~]

As hokage with duties I would argue she began working out again to build her muscles back. This is even more clear when she fights in the war and doesnt lose her breathe so easily like in part 1.

Didn't she unleash the seal right away during the war? Her stamina's near infinite when its released.

The fact your best argument against Tsunade is the part 1 fight... is kind of pathetic.. especially since you are supposed to be a top-notch debater. Thats something you'd expect a troll or a newbie who didn't read the manga properly to mention.

Lml is it true or nah.

You compared Killer B's weapon cqc to Tsunade's fist to fist cqc.. major flaws. Tsunade herself with one leap can trash on Killer B's CQC.. (just take a long leap back and done.)

Really now in one leap? Not only was Bee keeping up with MS Sasuke ( Who if you think Tsunade beats in CQC Please choke slam yourself) But he was even outspeeding his Sharingan. He also dealed without any effort at all Jugo who attacks in a similar way as Tsunade does, Dashing and brute strength

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Tsunade also has a faster striking speed and a faster close shunshin than Killer B. Shown o multiple cases... Soooo yea buddy.

Faster striking speed? You have to be insane to ever think that..

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Bee has one of if not THE fastest strikes in the manga in CQC and would chop Tsunade up like Sushi, yet Kisame was able to go blow to blow with him, as Kisame's mastered the art of fighting with Samehada. He can block Bee so he can block Tsunade end of story.

Kisame is not beating any of the Hokage or the Sanin. (thought an argument can be made for Kakashi)

He beats, Oro,Tsunade,Tobirama,Minato ( Base), Hiruzen, only reason he doesn't beat Jiraiya is because he's screwed when he absorbs his chakra in SM, if he starts in base he easily has a chance.

 

[Icelerate]

.....??? Base Gai is superior in taijutsu skill, striking speed, body speed, and reflexes/reaction. Da**** you mean?

What striking speed feat from base Gai is superior to casually deflecting five dragons of fire through the momentum of her arm movement alone?

OT: Kisame's only way of winning is by constantly absorbing Tsunade's chakra reserves in CQC which is easily doable like he was going to against V1 Bee. If Kisame floods the battlefield like he did against Gai, Katsuyu should naturally sink to the bottom. Flooding the battlefield also makes ground pound ineffective as water splashes aren't phasing Kisame. Kisame can merge with samehada and even have his clones do this in which case, Tsunade gets owned pretty badly.

I think Kisame's got this with mid difficulty.

 

[FemmeFatale]

What striking speed feat from base Gai is superior to casually deflecting five dragons of fire through the momentum of her arm movement alone?

OT: Kisame's only way of winning is by constantly absorbing Tsunade's chakra reserves in CQC which is easily doable like he was going to against V1 Bee. If Kisame floods the battlefield like he did against Gai, Katsuyu should naturally sink to the bottom. Flooding the battlefield also makes ground pound ineffective as water splashes aren't phasing Kisame. Kisame can merge with samehada and even have his clones do this in which case, Tsunade gets owned pretty badly.

I think Kisame's got this with mid difficulty.

BOdy PAthway

 

[Icelerate]

BOdy PAthway

Tsunade has to touch Kisame first for that to be a factor in this fight.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade has to touch Kisame first for that to be a factor in this fight.

WHy not just channel the current throught the way, For him to finish he off he would have to come in close range with her. Tsunade is quite quick with the jutsu, (A rusty, 6 day restless, and heavily drunken Tsunade)

 

[RedRobin]

What striking speed feat from base Gai is superior to casually deflecting five dragons of fire through the momentum of her arm movement alone?

OT: Kisame's only way of winning is by constantly absorbing Tsunade's chakra reserves in CQC which is easily doable like he was going to against V1 Bee. If Kisame floods the battlefield like he did against Gai, Katsuyu should naturally sink to the bottom. Flooding the battlefield also makes ground pound ineffective as water splashes aren't phasing Kisame. Kisame can merge with samehada and even have his clones do this in which case, Tsunade gets owned pretty badly.

I think Kisame's got this with mid difficulty.

Katsuyu should naturally float, she is more dense than water, if she liquefied she would stay above water as well.

Tsunade can very easily take samehada out of the equation by sending it far far away.

 

[Icelerate]

WHy not just channel the current throught the way, For him to finish he off he would have to come in close range with her. Tsunade is quite quick with the jutsu, (A rusty, 6 day restless, and heavily drunken Tsunade)

No Tsunade caught a Kabuto off guard with that jutsu while he wasn't paying attention. She caught him off guard because he thought Tsunade wouldn't be able to move.

Katsuyu should naturally float, she is more dense than water, if she liquefied she would stay above water as well.

Tsunade can very easily take samehada out of the equation by sending it far far away.

More dense means Katsuyu will sink as it is heavier than the water. Tsunade can't take Samehada out like that without making contact which V1 Bee failed to do so.

 

[King Kendrick]

Katsuyu should naturally float, she is more dense than water, if she liquefied she would stay above water as well.

Tsunade can very easily take samehada out of the equation by sending it far far away.

Salt water GG .

And how exactly is she even touching the sword ?

OT : Tsunade takes this high diff unless kisame is allowed to infuse with samehada , then its a stomp .

 

[V h o]

Kisame med diff. Restrict sameheda and that would sway this a lot imo.