Itachi and Kisame vs Ay and Onoki

[Beans2]

Location: Bee vs Kisame
Intel: Full
Distance: 40 meters
Restrictions: None

 

[Gold Lightning]

Dat V2 Super lightweight combo though o_o

Itachi goes blind from trying to trace the movement speed, meanwhile Kisames swords gets snatched from with without even noticing, before being blitzed 10x over.

That's if Itachi doesn't Amaterasu Ohnoki first.

 

[Xlad]

Team 1 gets blitzed. MS Sasuke couldn't even track down V2 Ei and had to use Kagutsuchi Susanoo to counter. Onoki's Light Weight Rock made him far faster in speed. Itachi and Kisame doesn't have the slightest reaction or protection to this combo.

 

[LuckyMan]

Kages take it mid difficulty.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Ay blitzes Kisame and then he teams up with Onoki and neg Itachi

 

[Zexion~]

Team one takes this Ay could barely figure out who to travel when he was light weighted. Ay can be as fast as he wants he's not breaking through any Susano'o and he can't even kill Kisame. Once GWD goes up i'm not too knowledgeable about how this light weight jutsu worls, but ay would be extremely less dense he'd simply be stuck at the top as he'd be floating helplessly at the top of the dome, or any water Suiton kisame uses tbh before he gets sealed by totska

 

[Braiyan]

Ay grabs Onoki and Shunshins out of Itachi's line of sight at the start of the match, then Onoki climbs on Ay's back, lightens him, and they proceed to blitz them both. Full intel means Ay aims to decapitate Kisame with a Raiton chop to circumvent regeneration, and blitzes Itachi from behind so he doesn't run into Yata Mirror.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Team one takes this Ay could barely figure out who to travel when he was light weighted. Ay can be as fast as he wants he's not breaking through any Susano'o and he can't even kill Kisame. Once GWD goes up i'm not too knowledgeable about how this light weight jutsu worls, but ay would be extremely less dense he'd simply be stuck at the top as he'd be floating helplessly at the top of the dome, or any water Suiton kisame uses tbh before he gets sealed by totska

Or Onoki traps Itachi in a cube and gg like he almost gg'd MS Sasuke.

 

[Lariatoo]

Team Akatsuki med diff.

 

[Zexion~]

Or Onoki traps Itachi in a cube and gg like he almost gg'd MS Sasuke.

Intells full, Itachi knows what Jinton is, he can drop and activate susano'o in time of a lightning bolt, which is quite fast so he can easily drop it and sunshin away not to mention genjutsu will come into play here

Besides if Onohki tries to jinton Itachi will simply Amertarasu

 

[KidGamer65]

Susanoo tanks the incoming blitz, and Kisame sets up the Water Dome. It's downhill for Team Kage from there on out.

 

[-Akuma-]

What Kid said.

 

[ARGUS]

Ay and Onoki win this

--neither of them are reacting to lightened Ay, and nothing short of V3 susanoo is helping itachi tank aggravated rock fist, where 2 hits at max are busting his susanoo and taking him out, whilst V4 susanoo simply gets outlasted, and after that, itachi is done for

--Itachi is also not landing a single hit on the duo, so his MS techniques hold no weight here, and susanoo is only prolonging itachis death so there isnt much that hes doing here

--Kisame is not doing much either, he gets seperated from his blade the instant he gets blitzed, and the next attack obliterates him, and if itachi is out before, then a large scale jinton one shost him and turns him to dust

--water dome is not doing much, not when onoki can give Ay the flight, and they both can fly out of the domes range, with them out, there is no use of the dome itself

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Itachi and Kisame win this

- Lightening Ay also means decreasing his striking power/strength while raising his speed, so he isn't getting past Susano'o

- Kisame used Daibaksui Shōha and forms the water dome during the initial blitz

- Kisame gets Itachi out of the water dome, and he sips tea while watching the two kages get ravaged by shark mode Kisame

Edit: Itachi uses Amaterasu on the bastard who is lucky enough to escape at that point

 

[Conspirator.]

Itachi and Kisame win high diff.

 

[Beans2]

Well this is a divided thread...but I think Ay and Onoki win.

Susanoo tanks the incoming blitz, and Kisame sets up the Water Dome. It's downhill for Team Kage from there on out.

How is water dome a factor? Kisame using it means Itachi gets caught in its aoe whereas Ay and Onoki just fly out of range. Jinton vaporizes the dome and then Ay goes in for the kill. Itachi gets outlasted until he can no longer maintain V3 then they bust Susanoo open.

Itachi and Kisame win this

- Lightening Ay also means decreasing his striking power/strength while raising his speed, so he isn't getting past Susano'o

- Kisame used Daibaksui Shōha and forms the water dome during the initial blitz

- Kisame gets Itachi out of the water dome, and he sips tea while watching the two kages get ravaged by shark mode Kisame

Edit: Itachi uses Amaterasu on the bastard who is lucky enough to escape at that point

They fly out of the water dome's range.

 

[Zexion~]

Water dome plus Itachi's Susano with totska and its basically like bobbing for apples ... With a stick Idk thats def a thing somewhere either way

When trapped in water dome Totska solos the shit out of them

 

[LuckyMan]

Can anyone who thinks Water Dome works post exactly why it works on the Kage?

How will Itachi not drown from it?

How will It capture Onoki and Ay if they fly in the sky?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Well this is a divided thread...but I think Ay and Onoki win.



How is water dome a factor? Kisame using it means Itachi gets caught in its aoe whereas Ay and Onoki just fly out of range. Jinton vaporizes the dome and then Ay goes in for the kill. Itachi gets outlasted until he can no longer maintain V3 then they bust Susanoo open.



They fly out of the water dome's range.

It's always going to be IC for Ay to blitz and 40 meters is too far of a distance for even a lightened v2 Ay to reach the Akatsuki before the water dome gets put up, and Itachi can cover Kisame with Susano'o while he's prepping as an extra measure. By the time the kage duo see the exploding water mass, it's going to be too late for them to fly up in the air and avoid being trapped in time. Kisame's faster underwater than the lightened kages are, and I don't think lightened v2 Ay's speed is as great underwater as it is on land. Itachi will be swimming the opposite way of where Kisame will be heading, so he can get out of the dome easily, from where he could use Amaterasu on whoever manages to escape the dome.

I can see why people think the latter duo win though, and I'm open to change my mind if I see a good argument

 

[ARGUS]

Itachi and Kisame win this

- Lightening Ay also means decreasing his striking power/strength while raising his speed, so he isn't getting past Susano'o

No it isnt, especially when we already saw the duo

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, and send the same susanoo flying back,
a few more hits and itachi gets eradicated

- Kisame used Daibaksui Shōha and forms the water dome during the initial blitz

And how is that helping when its affecting itachi more than the duo?
not to mention that lightened Ay can seperate Kisame from his blade, and take him out before he even merges with samehada

- Kisame gets Itachi out of the water dome, and he sips tea while watching the two kages get ravaged by shark mode Kisame

And how does he do that exactly?

Edit: Itachi uses Amaterasu on the bastard who is lucky enough to escape at that point

once ay and onoki are out of the dome, the duo can just shunshin away from the dome whilst they are on ground,
so amaterasu gets evaded either way, and chances are that itachi wont be able to breath once hes underwater

if itachi does attemppt to fire amaterasu then the use of rock clones blocking his LoS is also working, until the duo go on the ground and run away from the dome with ease,

It's always going to be IC for Ay to blitz and 40 meters is too far of a distance for even a lightened v2 Ay to reach the Akatsuki before the water dome gets put up,

NO its not, 40m is pretty much nothing for lightened Ay,
when FRS alone covered the mountain range worth of distance of CT within a second
a distance thats well over 100m, and seeing how:
Lightened Ay > V2 Ay > Third Raikage > FRS

40m for a much faster character is nothing,

and Itachi can cover Kisame with Susano'o while he's prepping as an extra measure.

he cant wrap kisame inside the susanoo since he hasnt shown the use of iso susanoo
and if he does protect kisame, then he can only do so from one side,
which results in Ay and Onoki going towards the back of the susanoo where kisame is unprotected, and slamming him down with aggravated rock fist (ARF)

By the time the kage duo see the exploding water mass, it's going to be too late for them to fly up in the air and avoid being trapped.

Ay and Onokis speed is well above kisame forming the water dome,
and if he does rush iin then the only thing thats happpening is itachi getting caught which makes it worse for him

Kisame's faster underwater than the lightened kages are,

Hes only faster underwater if ay and onoki are both underwater, which wont be happening
if they are not underwater than Ay and Onoki are obviously faster and run away from it just fine,
kisame would only be wasting his time and chakra if he resorts to catching Ay and Onoki if they are not even in the dome

especially Ōnoki, who would get destroyed first due to him being more dangerous than Ay b/c of jinton. Itachi will be swimming the opposite way of where Kisame will be heading, so he can get out of the dome easily, from where he could use Amaterasu on whoever manages to escape the dome.

Ay and Onoki are faster than Itachi, so they are more likely to evade it before he does, especially when we consider the drawbacks of MS
amaterasu argument is addressed above

I can see why people think the latter duo WIN though, and I'm open to change my mind if I see a good argument

Ay and Onoki win high diff