Was Sasuke trying to copy what Naruto did

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Again, Kyuubi IS chakra, alive chakra but still chakra, the true form of Kyuubi is when all the bijuus are combined to form the juubi, Kyuubi is only a bigger slice of the pizza from the juubi. Like i said, it doesn't matter whether one talks and the other doesnt, so what? Also, eyes give power as well to aid the user. They are both the same. Its not my fault if you can't handle the truth.



You need to learn the definition of advice more than me son, tell me what would have happened if Kyuubi didn't tell Naruto to use his chakra wisely? Nothing, it would have been the same result regardless of whether kyuubi gave that advice or not, show me a different scan apart from that one of kyuubi giving Naruto advice. Oh whats that? You can't because there aren't any others? Nice, Lol.

Powers don't matter.The Kyuubi is another living entity that willingly helps Naruto.Are eyes alive? Do they decide to help out the user and do things on it's own? Or does the user have to use the eye powers himself.

It doesn't matter whether Naruto was helped out by the advice or not.That doesn't change the fact that he gave advice.

Like he did here.



Comparing Sasuke's skill/power to the Sage thus giving Naruto a proper estimate of how powerful Sasuke had become,and then he told him not to let his guard done,further showing Naruto how serious the situation was.
 

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Powers don't matter.The Kyuubi is another living entity that willingly helps Naruto.Are eyes alive? Do they decide to help out the user and do things on it's own? Or does the user have to use the eye powers himself.

Do you know how much better it is if your tool is not alive? You don't have to command it to give you power or fight against it, you can just instantly control it and use it however you like. Not the same case with bijuus

It doesn't matter whether Naruto was helped out by the advice or not.That doesn't change the fact that he gave advice.

Advice is irrelevant if it was just a suggestion that wasn't even needed.

Like he did here.


Comparing Sasuke's skill/power to the Sage thus giving Naruto a proper estimate of how powerful Sasuke had become,and then he told him not to let his guard done,further showing Naruto how serious the situation was.

Irrelevant again, you think Naruto would let Sasuke throw him around like a rag doll if Kyuubi didn't tell him not to let his guard down? Naruto was fully aware of the situation, Kyuubi was just warning him that this was a serious fight. If Kyuubi couldn't talk, it wouldn't change a thing, the manga would have been the same.
 

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Why not combine two techniques together which results in a more powerful technique? Plus, there's a difference between his Chidori and Kaguzuchi combo and Naruto's application of wind nature energy into his base rasengan form. In Sasuke's case, he's mixing two different element whereas Naruto is applying his elemental chakra to the shape manipulation of Rasengan, so it really isn't a copy-cat more.
 

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Basically you're from the first page in some attempt of trolling Lol

He's trying to find a way to put chidori above rasengan.
 

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Again, Kyuubi IS chakra, alive chakra but still chakra, the true form of Kyuubi is when all the bijuus are combined to form the juubi, Kyuubi is only a bigger slice of the pizza from the juubi. Like i said, it doesn't matter whether one talks and the other doesnt, so what? Also, eyes give power as well to aid the user. They are both the same. Its not my fault if you can't handle the truth.

You need to learn the definition of advice more than me son, tell me what would have happened if Kyuubi didn't tell Naruto to use his chakra wisely? Nothing, it would have been the same result regardless of whether kyuubi gave that advice or not, show me a different scan apart from that one of kyuubi giving Naruto advice. Oh whats that? You can't because there aren't any others? Nice, Lol.

You should stop. You're trying to hard against a losing battle. Do you want to know what the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan gives you? Light. It doesn't give you Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, or Susano'o, simply light so that you can continue to use and practice techniques. Kurama is a living being. The eyes are not. To "solo" is to defeat without help from another being. If Itachi gave his eyes to Sasuke in the middle of battle, then of course, it isn't a solo, because Itachi helped him, but that's not the case. Naruto can solo so long as he doesn't take advice or have Kurama generate chakra for him.
 

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Deidara and Danzo suicided.

Original White Zetsu is fodder. Tobi said he wasn't fit for combat.
i guess they ended up in that suicide state by themselves? who pushed them towards that state?they lost and had no other option, thats even worse than sasuke delivering the final blow
 

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Wow, I forgot I made his. Also, I didn't mean he was copying the rasengan Naruto was using at the time, but that he was copying the principle behind rasenshuriken (having witnessed it several times at that point). Also, if you feel offended, remember, he copied Rock Lee's move.
 

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stupidity beyond
 

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i guess they ended up in that suicide state by themselves? who pushed them towards that state?they lost and had no other option, thats even worse than sasuke delivering the final blow

It doesn't matter.

Suicide is suicide.

In the fight with Deidara, Sasuke had next to nothing left either. He wasn't in any better of a position.
 

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It doesn't matter.

Suicide is suicide.

In the fight with Deidara, Sasuke had next to nothing left either. He wasn't in any better of a position.
yes it does.

suicides were commited because they couldnt best their opponent in any other way and had basically lost the battle, hence they were pushed to drastic measures by killing themselves just to take out the opponent which still failed, hence they were bested.

actually no, he still had some chakra left as orochimaru didnt disturb him, the chakra he used in controlling manda could have easily been put into chidori which would ended the defenseless deidara if he had not suicided.
 

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yes it does.

suicides were commited because they couldnt best their opponent in any other way and had basically lost the battle, hence they were pushed to drastic measures by killing themselves just to take out the opponent which still failed, hence they were bested.

actually no, he still had some chakra left as orochimaru didnt disturb him, the chakra he used in controlling manda could have easily been put into chidori which would ended the defenseless deidara if he had not suicided.

So why didn't he?

Deidara killed himself. Sasuke didn't kill him.
 

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So why didn't he?

Deidara killed himself. Sasuke didn't kill him.
why didnt he what?

i ddint say sasuke killed him, but you claimed sasuke was as defenseless as deidara and couldnt have done anything more and i proved that to be false. he doesnt have to kill him to beat him, deidara suicided because he got outclassed and had no other choice, he was put in that position and hes attack still failed as sasuke lived and he died.
 

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why didnt he what?

i ddint say sasuke killed him, but you claimed sasuke was as defenseless as deidara and couldnt have done anything more and i proved that to be false. he doesnt have to kill him to beat him, deidara suicided because he got outclassed and had no other choice, he was put in that position and hes attack still failed as sasuke lived and he died.

You claim Sasuke "could have easily put a Chidori into Deidara". So why didn't he do it?

The conversation was about people Sasuke killed
You jumped in saying "well they ended up in that state because Sasuke pushed them" but it doesn't matter, because it was suicide.
 

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It doesn't matter.

Suicide is suicide.

In the fight with Deidara, Sasuke had next to nothing left either. He wasn't in any better of a position.

Yes it does.Sasuke pushed Deidara to the point of suicide.Sasuke could still fight though.Considering he willingly disactivated the Sharingan which Deidara called out,then he countered the explosion by summoning Manda,and using Genjutsu to forcefully control him.

He had enough chakra to do all that,thus showing he could still fight whereas,all Deidara had left was a suicide explosion.


So why didn't he?

Deidara killed himself. Sasuke didn't kill him.


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Because Deidara did his suicide explosion,before he even had the chance to.

Do you know how much better it is if your tool is not alive? You don't have to command it to give you power or fight against it, you can just instantly control it and use it however you like. Not the same case with bijuus



Advice is irrelevant if it was just a suggestion that wasn't even needed.





Irrelevant again, you think Naruto would let Sasuke throw him around like a rag doll if Kyuubi didn't tell him not to let his guard down? Naruto was fully aware of the situation, Kyuubi was just warning him that this was a serious fight. If Kyuubi couldn't talk, it wouldn't change a thing, the manga would have been the same.

The Kyuubi's words were helpful to Naruto and us readers as it let us get a good idea of how powerful Sasuke had become rather than guess,futhermore,on the other page where the Kyuubi was giving Naruto battle plans,that helped us aswell,considering we got to know what was coming up,and how serious it was.The Kyuubi would give Naruto the rest of his,pass out,and not be able to help Naruto anymore.

The Kyuubi is a living entity,which can gather chakra while he fights and give it to him.A Kunai, for example cannot,or a sword,or eyes,etc.

He's trying to find a way to put chidori above rasengan.

I don't need find a way to put Chidori above Rasengan.I needed to find a way to explain things so he could understand that Chidori is above Rasengan even though there power is equal.But then again that's kinda hard to do since you guys love to put Naruto above Sasuke in every little thing.

I figured as much, but rasengan is far too good for that fanfic to fly.

What's so hard to understand? Chidori adds an elements but doesn't need advanced shape manipulation.Rasengan doesn't need in element but requires advanced shape manipulation.

One thing needs a little of something while the other needs alot of it.Yet you're trying to say one is better than the other.
 
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The Kyuubi's words were helpful to Naruto and us readers as it let us get a good idea of how powerful Sasuke had become rather than guess,futhermore,on the other page where the Kyuubi was giving Naruto battle plans,that helped us aswell,considering we got to know what was coming up,and how serious it was.The Kyuubi would give Naruto the rest of his,pass out,and not be able to help Naruto anymore.

The Kyuubi is a living entity,which can gather chakra while he fights and give it to him.A Kunai, for example cannot,or a sword,or eyes,etc.



I don't need find a way to put Chidori above Rasengan.I needed to find a way to explain things so he could understand that Chidori is above Rasengan even though there power is equal.But then again that's kinda hard to do since you guys love to put Naruto above Sasuke in every little thing.



What's so hard to understand? Chidori adds an elements but doesn't need advanced shape manipulation.Rasengan doesn't need in element but requires advanced shape manipulation.

One thing needs a little of something while the other needs alot of it.Yet you're trying to say one is better than the other.

No they weren't. Just give it up already. Naruto is a sensor, a pretty damn good sensor as well. Am sure he was already aware of how powerful Sasuke's chakra has become. What Kurama did was the equivalent of someone saying: "be careful on your way home" or "drive safely". That's not ****ing advice. Oh and stop making shit up, the kyubi gave Naruto no battle plans in his final fight with Sasuke, and as for gathering NE, a Naruto clone could have easily done the same.
 
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So Naruto's opinion means that its instantly true? Bullshit, and also, exactly, EMS and Kurama both give power-ups to the users so their not much different.



Sasuke's EMS and Curse mark and Rinnegan has continuously given him power as he fights, plus he has been saved and powered up many times by these things. Like i said, no different.



Where exactly is Kyuubi giving advice? Do you mean the "use my chakra wisely" thing? Because its not like Naruto even needed that advice, do you think that if Kurama hadn't told him to use it wisely Naruto would have been trying to blow up the universe with it or something?

Since when does a persons eyes = a living, breathing, feeling entity? Come back when the eyes get emotions of their own, knowledge of their own,.
 
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