How Strong Should Konohamaru Be By Now?

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I'd say he is the strongest new generation Jounin. I'd expect him to master Katon, Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu and Rasengan. To the point he can actually do a Katon Rasenshuriken lol Maybe he inherited Hiruzen's jutsu's too.

Plus having Enma by his side is a high possibility too.

I see him surpassing prime Hiruzen but weaker than Naruto who overall has Kurama, Hashirama cells, and Sage senjutsu. As a kid Konohamaru wanted to surpass him grandfather so I see him doing that as Naruto surpassed Minato and Jiraiya, Shikamaru surpass Asuma and Shikaku, Sasuke surpassed Itachi, Sakura surpass Tsunade, Lee surpasses Gai, ect... He had an elite Jounin training him before he was even in the academy and he was smarter than part 1 Naruto when it came to knowledge. Naruto was also his teacher so no doubt he learned to train with shadow clones, learned all Rasengan variations that he can use, got both road summon and monkey summon, learned SM and all its jutsus, ect...

Him and Naruto did plan to fight for Hokage so they either already did or will do when Konohamaru is becoming the new Hokage.
 

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I see him surpassing prime Hiruzen but weaker than Naruto who overall has Kurama, Hashirama cells, and Sage senjutsu. As a kid Konohamaru wanted to surpass him grandfather so I see him doing that as Naruto surpassed Minato and Jiraiya, Shikamaru surpass Asuma and Shikaku, Sasuke surpassed Itachi, Sakura surpass Tsunade, Lee surpasses Gai, ect... He had an elite Jounin training him before he was even in the academy and he was smarter than part 1 Naruto when it came to knowledge. Naruto was also his teacher so no doubt he learned to train with shadow clones, learned all Rasengan variations that he can use, got both road summon and monkey summon, learned SM and all its jutsus, ect...

Him and Naruto did plan to fight for Hokage so they either already did or will do when Konohamaru is becoming the new Hokage.

Konohamaru can't surpass Prime Hiruzen, because supposedly he knows all the techniques in Konohagakure, and has all elements.

Not to mention the "Professor" hype BS.
 

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At least Asuma level IMO. I think he have some profiency in Katon. And at least working on a Rasengan varient in either Katon or a Rasengan variant like planetary Rasengan. If he has Enma, he's OP.
 

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At least Asuma level IMO. I think he have some profiency in Katon. And at least working on a Rasengan varient in either Katon or a Rasengan variant like planetary Rasengan. If he has Enma, he's OP.

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He'll be prime Asuma + Enma at best
 

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Konohamaru can't surpass Prime Hiruzen, because supposedly he knows all the techniques in Konohagakure, and has all elements.

Not to mention the "Professor" hype BS.

that means nothing.
He'll surpass many of Hokage.
 

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He'll be prime Asuma + Enma at best

Agreed, he'll be a bit stronger than that even. Clones to help train and get taijutsu down. Konohamaru is decently smart too so with clones in his arsenal, he's tricky too. He's also got Rasengan as a finisher. I say his potential is Kisame's level. Probably a little weaker but around that ball park.
 

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I'd say he is the strongest new generation Jounin. I'd expect him to master Katon, Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu and Rasengan. To the point he can actually do a Katon Rasenshuriken lol Maybe he inherited Hiruzen's jutsu's too.

Plus having Enma by his side is a high possibility too.
He has:
- Shadow Clones
- Rasengan

I assume as a Sarutobi, I expect him to have:
- Fire Style: Burning Ash
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- Enma as his personal summon.
- Shuriken Shadow Clone
- Few larger Rasengan variants

He would surpass Asuma as a Jounin.
 

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Konohamaru can't surpass Prime Hiruzen, because supposedly he knows all the techniques in Konohagakure, and has all elements.

Not to mention the "Professor" hype BS.

So you're saying Konohamaru can't learn Konoha's jutsus himself? Konohamaru have been studying before going to the academy so for all you know it was about different jutsus and clans and basic ninja knowledge since he was being schooled to be Hokage someday. You can learn all 5 elements, Hiruzen and Kakashi both did this and Hokages have like 4 of the elements plus yin and/or yang. Also that doesn't stop Konohamaru from becoming better in taijutsu, weapon usage, chakra control, strategy usage, speed, strength and reserves.

Naruto was his teacher so I see Konohamaru training with clones which can gain him years of experiences in a short time depending on how many clones he make. He can learn and master skills and jutsus fast and if his goal was to surpass Hiruzen then his goal would allow him to do so. Hiruzen was around high 20's low 30's when he was in his prime and that's when he was Hokage so he wouldn't have much time to himself to train yet he still was that strong and even had time to have students of his own. Kakashi was called Konoha's number 1 technician in part 1 as said by Gai so I see Kakashi being better than Hiruzen there.
 

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Kohonamaru is 22, so he is not in his prime yet and yes he will surpass them all and become the 8th Hokage. I don't care what skills the others have, he will surpass them. I don't care how you deal with it. Rant all you want. Doesn't change that fact though.

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So you're saying Konohamaru can't learn Konoha's jutsus himself? Konohamaru have been studying before going to the academy so for all you know it was about different jutsus and clans and basic ninja knowledge since he was being schooled to be Hokage someday. You can learn all 5 elements, Hiruzen and Kakashi both did this and Hokages have like 4 of the elements plus yin and/or yang. Also that doesn't stop Konohamaru from becoming better in taijutsu, weapon usage, chakra control, strategy usage, speed, strength and reserves.

Naruto was his teacher so I see Konohamaru training with clones which can gain him years of experiences in a short time depending on how many clones he make. He can learn and master skills and jutsus fast and if his goal was to surpass Hiruzen then his goal would allow him to do so. Hiruzen was around high 20's low 30's when he was in his prime and that's when he was Hokage so he wouldn't have much time to himself to train yet he still was that strong and even had time to have students of his own. Kakashi was called Konoha's number 1 technician in part 1 as said by Gai so I see Kakashi being better than Hiruzen there.

No he'll never learn the amount of techniques that Hiruzen learned, and could POSSIBLY learn.

5 Nature's means = Unlimited techniques and creations

At best Konohamaru will have Fire and one more. He wasn't shown to be a genius at any point in this manga, while most shinobi who grew to actually break the bracket of substantial normality showcase it at a rather young age.
 

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He will certainly surpass all the other Hokage that came before him when he reaches his prime.

I always suspected him becoming Hokage as some point, but I think it's a little far-fetched he'd surpass Hashirama and Naruto(the story favors them definitely).

I do, however, believe he could pass up Tobirama and Hiruzen.

Tsunade and Kakashi I definitely believe he does.
 

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Konohamaru has potential. I can see him becoming the 8th Hokage and surpassing all of them apart from Naruto, Hashirama and MAYBE Minato.
 

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Are you on drugs?

Nope. Completely clean. Im sure that Pre-part 2 if you had seen all the other Kages abilities that you would have said that Naruto could never reach their level. Look where he is now
 

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No he'll never learn the amount of techniques that Hiruzen learned, and could POSSIBLY learn.

5 Nature's means = Unlimited techniques and creations

At best Konohamaru will have Fire and one more. He wasn't shown to be a genius at any point in this manga, while most shinobi who grew to actually break the bracket of substantial normality showcase it at a rather young age.

It said Hiruzen knew all jutsus in Konoha, knowing them and being able to use them are two different things and he could know all of the jutsus in the village back in his prime but that doesn't mean he knows of new jutsus over the years. You can learn many jutsus with 2 or 3 elements than someone with all 5 if you have the training. It takes time to learn jutsus and Naruto was the first we know train with clones with Konohamaru being his teacher. Hiruzen is dead, he isn't learning any new jutsus where as Konohamaru is still young and can.

You can train to learn all 5 elements, Kakashi, Tobirama, and Hiruzen all are examples of that from the DB. In part 1 Konohamaru shown to have a high understanding of chakra. Hasn't shown to be a genius? As a 12 or so year old he was fighting one of Pein's bodies and was analyzing his abilities and fighting style using the shadow clone . He learned about the clones giving him knowledge and experience on his own and used it against a high jounin-kage level opponent. Hiruzen was older than that when made Hokage and even then nothing special was said about him but him hyping himself up at that time.

When Naruto said he heard about Konohamaru using Rasengan on Pein, he said Konohamaru was a faster learner than him . Naruto learned the Rasengan in a little over a month so a Konohamaru learned it faster and Naruto learning it so fast and at a young age was a big deal as seen by Tsunade, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Kakashi and Sasuke's reaction to seeing it. So Konohamaru shown to be a genius pre-academy and as a Genin (age 12 I believe) where as you can't say anything about Hiruzen at that age. Kakashi graduated from the academy at age 5 and became a chunin at age 6 but had 3 known elements in Shippuden when he was training Naruto at age 33 (?) But the DB said he has all elements by war time. So is Kakashi stronger than Sasuke, Itachi, A, and others on Kage level?

Konohamaru learning up to 3+ elements by the age of 22 is not a problem, Minato had like 4 elements when he died 24. Shadow clones allow him to learn jutsus faster if he trains with them and he learns faster than Naruto who learns at a pretty fast rate himself plus the amount of jutsus you have doesn't mean you can beat someone. Part 1 Kakashi who knew over 1000 jutsus couldn't beat Itachi right? Can he beat strong kage level ninjas with those ninjutsus? Not likely.

Genin Konohamaru is stronger than part 1 base Naruto and much more strategic. He beat a ninja stronger than anyone Part 1 Naruto, Sasuke, Neji, or Lee beat. If that's not enough proof of him having natural talent as Hiruzen then idk what you want since it doesn't show Konohamaru much.
 
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