Sasuke is truely the strongest now.

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Look at Sasuke about to fall like the rest of the Uchiha before Him. More Sasuke Apologist.
 

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So you want to talk about Naruto using the tail beast power, but you don't want to do the same for Sasuke. Did you forget that his eye power comes from the 10 tails and has different advantages than Naruto's body power. Naruto and Sasuke are at the same level, but Sasuke required more power ups to reach that level.
The difference is that Sasuke is still the strongest without biju chakra.

Naruto is a fodder without biju assistance and everyone knows it.
 

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Stupidity. I love Sasuke but he kind of cheated.

Naruto was holding back hinted in the chapters, until Sasuke used each of the Jins chakra. He basically should have been like Juubito or Juudara. Then Naruto got serious, and got even. I just want this to end already
 

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The difference is that Sasuke is still the strongest without biju chakra.

Naruto is a fodder without biju assistance and everyone knows it.

Thank you for proving my point. All power (eye power and body power) and chakra originates from the 10 tails. You just proved that you don't have a problem with Sasuke using the 10 tails power (eye power), but you want to call Naruto a fodder for using the 10 tails power (body power). The manga just proved Naruto is stronger. Sasuke needed to use the eye power and then receive additional power from the tail beast to match Naruto who was just using his body power. Naruto didn't gain any eye power. Normally Sasuke won't have access to that additional tail beast power useless he keeps the tail beast seal the rest of his life and he always travels with them.
 

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Thank you for proving my point. All power (eye power and body power) and chakra originates from the 10 tails.
And this is where I stopped reading. Everytime Narutards are cornered with manga facts, they pull this redundant argument out of their asses.

You know what's funny? This argument still has a counter.

Come back when Sasuke literally receives help/advice/guidance/tactics from a living, breathing, conscious entity in the heat of battle.

Naruto alone is fodder. Sasuke alone is a God. And it's not even debatable.
 

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Sasuke Uchiha. The youngest person to reach the sages level.
 

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And this is where I stopped reading. Everytime Narutards are cornered with manga facts, they pull this redundant argument out of their asses.

You know what's funny? This argument still has a counter.

Come back when Sasuke literally receives help/advice/guidance/tactics from a living, breathing, conscious entity in the heat of battle.

Naruto alone is fodder. Sasuke alone is a God. And it's not even debatable.

You and so many others hate that statement because it completely destroys your argument. You can no longer go about how Naruto uses the tail beast power and claim he a fodder without that power without looking stupid because Sasuke uses it too.

Now you want to use the "living entity argument". That's weak. Eye power does just as much if not more for the user. Even though it not alive that doesn't mean anything. You need to look at what it does.

Sasuke eye power analysis, follow movement, copy jutsu, see through jutsu and automatically give it users jutsu/ability/power.

We have known about the sharingan ability to copy jutsu since part 1. The eye powers is one doing all the work for the users by copy jutsu so the user doesn't have to learn it himself. That very impressive considering it not alive. Naruto doesn't have that power.

Lets look at the the eye power ability to automatically give it users jutsu/ability/power.

- When Sasuke was fighting Naruto at the VOTE the first time his sharingan evolved and he was automatically able to see and follow all of Naruto's body movement. All he did was acknowledge Naruto.



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- When Sasuke was fighting Killer Bee he automatically gain the ability to control (extinguish) amaterasu. He didn't know he could do that and even questioned if that power was his new eye power.

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- The rinnegan gave Sasuke the 6 paths ability automatically. In the current chapter Sasuke suddenly gained the ability to absorb chakra. He stated it was the rinnegan's power.



Sasuke always seem to gain new jutsu/ability/power at the most convenient. Very similar to the time Sasuke was fighting Ei and then suddenly gain Susanoo.

So don't give me that BS about what Naruto's power does for him because Sasuke power does alot for him as well. The reason I consider Naruto stronger is because through the entire manga it was Naruto's body power vs Sasuke's eye power and then Sasuke needed to go beyond his eye power to match Naruto's body power. Naruto didn't go beyond his body power.
 

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The difference is that Sasuke is still the strongest without biju chakra.

Naruto is a fodder without biju assistance and everyone knows it.

no, there is no distinction as the bijuu are a part of his power scheme. what you are failing to realize though is naruto power is not great because of the bijuu, but because of his senjutsu. if his power scheme was depended on the bijuu chakra he would have been smashed by both madara and kaguya. so stop with your uninformed comments, their embarrassing.
 

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As the title said. In the current chapter we see Naruto lying on the water, he did not have any chakra more.

How does that prove him the strongest when Naruto wasn't close to full power at the start? If both start at full power then it would be Sasuke would be the one out of chakra. Kurama even said Naruto's own chakra was so low due to fighting in the war which he did like 4-5 days. Plus this isn't the end and that can be a Naruto clone as many pointed out.
 

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You and so many others hate that statement because it completely destroys your argument. You can no longer go about how Naruto uses the tail beast power and claim he a fodder without that power without looking stupid because Sasuke uses it too.

Now you want to use the "living entity argument". That's weak. Eye power does just as much if not more for the user. Even though it not alive that doesn't mean anything. You need to look at what it does.

Sasuke eye power analysis, follow movement, copy jutsu, see through jutsu and automatically give it users jutsu/ability/power.

We have known about the sharingan ability to copy jutsu since part 1. The eye powers is one doing all the work for the users by copy jutsu so the user doesn't have to learn it himself. That very impressive considering it not alive. Naruto doesn't have that power.

Lets look at the the eye power ability to automatically give it users jutsu/ability/power.

- When Sasuke was fighting Naruto at the VOTE the first time his sharingan evolved and he was automatically able to see and follow all of Naruto's body movement. All he did was acknowledge Naruto.



to

- When Sasuke was fighting Killer Bee he automatically gain the ability to control (extinguish) amaterasu. He didn't know he could do that and even questioned if that power was his new eye power.

to

- The rinnegan gave Sasuke the 6 paths ability automatically. In the current chapter Sasuke suddenly gained the ability to absorb chakra. He stated it was the rinnegan's power.



Sasuke always seem to gain new jutsu/ability/power at the most convenient. Very similar to the time Sasuke was fighting Ei and then suddenly gain Susanoo.

So don't give me that BS about what Naruto's power does for him because Sasuke power does alot for him as well. The reason I consider Naruto stronger is because through the entire manga it was Naruto's body power vs Sasuke's eye power and then Sasuke needed to go beyond his eye power to match Naruto's body power. Naruto didn't go beyond his body power.
Yes, but wanking to the point of fanfiction and denying manga facts doesn't help your case.

no, there is no distinction as the bijuu are a part of his power scheme. what you are failing to realize though is naruto power is not great because of the bijuu, but because of his senjutsu. if his power scheme was depended on the bijuu chakra he would have been smashed by both madara and kaguya. so stop with your uninformed comments, their embarrassing.
No, he has a biju buddy inside of him helping him in every fight. Any of his "1v1" fights (take the current Naruto vs Sasuke fight), it's actually 2v1. Sasuke is actually at a disadvantage because he facing two entities—two minds (Naruto and Yin Kurama).
 

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How does that prove him the strongest when Naruto wasn't close to full power at the start? If both start at full power then it would be Sasuke would be the one out of chakra. Kurama even said Naruto's own chakra was so low due to fighting in the war which he did like 4-5 days. Plus this isn't the end and that can be a Naruto clone as many pointed out.

Naruto is weaker than Sasuke.
 

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Naruto is weaker than Sasuke.

Than why did Sasuke need a brand new power up to fight Naruto and was still left barely standing after their attacks collided?
 

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You and so many others hate that statement because it completely destroys your argument. You can no longer go about how Naruto uses the tail beast power and claim he a fodder without that power without looking stupid because Sasuke uses it too.

Now you want to use the "living entity argument". That's weak. Eye power does just as much if not more for the user. Even though it not alive that doesn't mean anything. You need to look at what it does.

Sasuke eye power analysis, follow movement, copy jutsu, see through jutsu and automatically give it users jutsu/ability/power.

We have known about the sharingan ability to copy jutsu since part 1. The eye powers is one doing all the work for the users by copy jutsu so the user doesn't have to learn it himself. That very impressive considering it not alive. Naruto doesn't have that power.

Lets look at the the eye power ability to automatically give it users jutsu/ability/power.

- When Sasuke was fighting Naruto at the VOTE the first time his sharingan evolved and he was automatically able to see and follow all of Naruto's body movement. All he did was acknowledge Naruto.



to

- When Sasuke was fighting Killer Bee he automatically gain the ability to control (extinguish) amaterasu. He didn't know he could do that and even questioned if that power was his new eye power.

to

- The rinnegan gave Sasuke the 6 paths ability automatically. In the current chapter Sasuke suddenly gained the ability to absorb chakra. He stated it was the rinnegan's power.



Sasuke always seem to gain new jutsu/ability/power at the most convenient. Very similar to the time Sasuke was fighting Ei and then suddenly gain Susanoo.

So don't give me that BS about what Naruto's power does for him because Sasuke power does alot for him as well. The reason I consider Naruto stronger is because through the entire manga it was Naruto's body power vs Sasuke's eye power and then Sasuke needed to go beyond his eye power to match Naruto's body power. Naruto didn't go beyond his body power.

Narutos power is sage mode. Kurama is a friend that helps Naruto. Sasukes eye power does a number of great things but it never thinks for him or is actually another helping friend. Bijuus aren't just a boost to the body so your assessment about Narutos body power > Sasukes eye power is plain wrong. Especially when part of the eye power is to control tailed beast. :rolleyes:
 
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