kishimotot nerfed chidori

[Vapid]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

Naruto have lots of potential himself and was praised for how fast he progress and Kakashi said Naruto has always been weirdly smart. The Uchihas in general was called a clan of natural born geniuses yet Senjus were better as Obito stated. Also it doesn't matter that he's a genius, there are many others who are higher on the genius scale but that doesn't mean they can just use powers as if they master it without some training. You can't copy a jutsu unless you have the skill or ability to do so; Sasuke only had lightning and fire so those were the only element jutsus he could copy. He can copy some non-element jutsus but he can copy water, wind, or earth (maybe until now) since he didn't have those elements.

Kakashi is a higher level genius than Sasuke, he graduated from the academy at 5 and became Chunin at 6 where as Sasuke became a Genin at 12; clearly natural born geniuses aren't all it's hyped to be. So you'll be ok if Naruto just start using a bunch of jutsus using the Bijuus elements (lava, boiling, steam, ect...)? So Naruto can use the water style reflection mirror that reflects any attack back on the user which the Edo Jin used on Naruto and Bee huh? So Naruto cancels our everything Sasuje does or use it on Sasuke as well until Sasuke runs out of chakra where as Naruto have a ton more.

Naruto's KM speed was compared to FTG yet Naruto haven't had much control over that speed and only used it 5x in KM and BM and RM outspend someone who outspend Sasuke so Kishi stopping Naruto from blitz slashing Sasuke before he can react by your knowledge.

Naruto is not on Sasuke's level in intelligence... at all. And it's not even debatable. That's all there is to it.

Kakashi doesn't compare to Sasuke when it comes to genius. He only graduated from the Academy so early due to being raised in a time of war. That's all there is to it.

Doesn't matter. Sasuke has Rinnegan Shifting (instant, mind you) plus precognition on his side.

Would be irrelevant against Naruto aka. Juubi Jinchūriki

Naruto's not a Jubi jin. Fail post.

 

[Kai NB]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

There's still a difference and 'Raikiri' is more focused than Chidori.

Seriously... the difference between the two is literally visible; Chidori is unstable, shown by its appearance, while Raikiri is focused, which is why it is famed for having unparalled cutting power.

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This is something Part 1 Sasuke could have done a long time ago.

I understand what you are saying. However, the fact of the matter remains that Raikiri is simply a nickname earned for the technique Chidori.

What you can say, however, is that Kakashi's Chidori is more masterful than Sasuke's. Though you still can't claim the two techniques differ. All you can claim is that the user's control of the technique varies

 

[BlazeRelease]

Re: So, Chidori = a Bijudama?

It is literally just a bigger rasengan.
Although the chakra used is much stronger, while the chidori used was just larger.

So yeas, it was impressive.

 

[TrollKing]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

I understand what you are saying. However, the fact of the matter remains that Raikiri is simply a nickname earned for the technique Chidori.

What you can say, however, is that Kakashi's Chidori is more masterful than Sasuke's. Though you still can't claim the two techniques differ. All you can claim is that the user's control of the technique varies

Then switch that to the fodder Ay's ration armor

 

[Kai NB]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

Then switch that to the fodder Ay's ration armor

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're implying. Can you please expand upon your claim?

 

[BlazeRelease]

Re: So, Chidori = a Bijudama?

So you don't know what the word counter means? I suggest you google it.
Bijudama is meant to explode, chidori is meant to pierce. All I see is an explosion from the two techniques clashing.

Unless Kishi shows Naruto or his Biju Mode being pierced then Chidori got overtaken by the explosion.

You don't know what counter means either.
That would be negating the oncoming attack then inflicting meaningful damage.

Stop preaching about grammar until yours is correct, he matched it, he did not counter it.

 

[Vapid]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

What you can say, however, is that Kakashi's Chidori is more masterful than Sasuke's. Though you still can't claim the two techniques differ. All you can claim is that the user's control of the technique varies

And that's something Part 1 Sasuke could have accomplished with ease. That's the point I'm trying to make.

And they are two different techniques. Using Part 1 scans from some ninjutsu fodder like Gai isn't a good rebuttal.

 

[TrollKing]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're implying. Can you please expand upon your claim?

Instead of saying sasky has potential to achieve kakashi's "chidori". Let's just say sasky can master the lighting technique of the fodder who got his arm burnt by ms sasky

That fodder name is Ay or raikage, his lighting tech much better than sasky's chidori

 

[Element Master]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

XD Vapid is ignoring my post

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[Kai NB]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

And that's something Part 1 Sasuke could have accomplished with ease. That's the point I'm trying to make.

And they are two different techniques. Using Part 1 scans from some ninjutsu fodder like Gai isn't a good rebuttal.

Instead of saying sasky has potential to achieve kakashi's "chidori". Let's just say sasky can master the lighting technique of the fodder who got his arm burnt by ms sasky

Oh no, understand me. Sasuke's chidori completely shatters Kakashi's. In the end, it is his choice whether or not to call it Raikiri. But Raikiri is just a nickname nonetheless. The name was originally used to differentiate between the various skill levels of the two. However, Sasuke far surpasses his mentor's skill in it now, most certainly. If Sasuke wanted to, he can start calling it Raikiri. But it wouldn't matter because Raikiri is just a name

RAIKIRI = CHIDORI


In short, Sasuke's skill is greater, if not at least equal, than Kakashi's in the technique. The name is irrelevant.

XD Vapid is ignoring my post

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He's not ignoring you. He has more important matters to handle. We have a disagreement that must be settled

 

[shadowcb]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

Naruto is not on Sasuke's level in intelligence... at all. And it's not even debatable. That's all there is to it.

Kakashi doesn't compare to Sasuke when it comes to genius. He only graduated from the Academy so early due to being raised in a time of war. That's all there is to it.

Doesn't matter. Sasuke has Rinnegan Shifting (instant, mind you) plus precognition on his side.


Naruto's not a Jubi jin. Fail post.

Yet, Naruto was able to take the academy exam twice before Sasuke took it one. Yes, he did fail, but that was because the 9 tail holds him back by making it harder for him to control his chakra and power.

You're right. Naruto is not the Jubi Jin. He is something completely new. He has tail beast 1-9 chakra. He can use their chakra individually or combine all the chakra together.

 

[Vapid]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

Oh no, understand me. Sasuke's chidori completely shatters Kakashi's. In the end, it is his choice whether or not to call it Raikiri. But Raikiri is just a nickname nonetheless. The name was originally used to differentiate between the various skill levels of the two. However, Sasuke far surpasses his mentor's skill in it now, most certainly. If Sasuke wanted to, he can start calling it Raikiri. But it wouldn't matter because Raikiri is just a name

RAIKIRI = CHIDORI


In short, Sasuke's skill is greater, if not at least equal, than Kakashi's in the technique. The name is irrelevant.

You've got it all wrong: Sasuke's skill with Chidori and better than Kakashi's. Kakashi compensates for his lack of mastery with Chidori by fueling his own with Raiton and concentrating it to increase its cutting power.

Raikiri, aka "Lightning Blade", is not just a nickname; it's also an off-shoot of Chidori. It's both a nickname and a technique.

Yet, Naruto was able to take the academy exam twice before Sasuke took it one. Yes, he did fail, but that was because the 9 tail holds his back by making it harder for him to control his chakra and power.

You're right. Naruto is not the Jubi Jin. He is something completely new. He has tail beast 1-9 chakra. He can use their chakra individually or combine all the chakra together.

Your point? Sasuke passed his test the first time it was given. Naruto was too fodder to do so. That's all there is to it.

Yeah, bud, we all know that Naruto is too weak to fight Sasuke in a fair 1v1. You don't have to keep stating the obvious.

 

[Element Master]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

Oh no, understand me. Sasuke's chidori completely shatters Kakashi's. In the end, it is his choice whether or not to call it Raikiri. But Raikiri is just a nickname nonetheless. The name was originally used to differentiate between the various skill levels of the two. However, Sasuke far surpasses his mentor's skill in it now, most certainly. If Sasuke wanted to, he can start calling it Raikiri. But it wouldn't matter because Raikiri is just a name

RAIKIRI = CHIDORI


In short, Sasuke's skill is greater, if not at least equal, than Kakashi's in the technique. The name is irrelevant.




He's not ignoring you. He has more important matters to handle. We have a disagreement that must be settled

I agree with Vapid on the Raikiri/ Chidori thing, Raikiri seems more compressed and controlled than Chidori
Edit: PLus Raikiri is a S rank Justu while Chidori is an A rank

 

[TrollKing]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

Oh no, understand me. Sasuke's chidori completely shatters Kakashi's. In the end, it is his choice whether or not to call it Raikiri. But Raikiri is just a nickname nonetheless. The name was originally used to differentiate between the various skill levels of the two. However, Sasuke far surpasses his mentor's skill in it now, most certainly. If Sasuke wanted to, he can start calling it Raikiri. But it wouldn't matter because Raikiri is just a name

RAIKIRI = CHIDORI


In short, Sasuke's skill is greater, if not at least equal, than Kakashi's in the technique. The name is irrelevant.




He's not ignoring you. He has more important matters to handle. We have a disagreement that must be settled

No, Ay's lighting armor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> chidori

And Ay is a fodder

 

[Rizengan01]

Re: So, Chidori = a Bijudama?

People shouldn't confuse

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. Rasengan and Bijudama are similar, not the same.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Iʻm just going to throw this out there, but could it be, could it POSSIBLY be that Naruto didnʻt get hit by the chidori? Or that Naruto, the guy who doesnʻt even get hurt by kaguyaʻs PS-busting punches is simply just really durable?

Again, just throwing that out there.

Clearly got it...

But the cloak protected him.

 

[Solo]

Theoretically, could Sasuke Rinneport someone into his Chidori?

Could Sasuke literally hold his hand up with Chidori and Rinneport someone into his Chidori?


I don't see why not, Sasuke is seriously broken. He's too OP.

 

[Kai NB]

Re: Sasuke is being drastically nerfed

Well it seems that you all stand on the same agreement. I submit.

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Though I still personally believe I am correct!

 

[Filo]

Re: Theoretically, could Sasuke Rinneport someone into his Chidori?

These are the endless possibilities

 

[spade3dg]

Re: Theoretically, could Sasuke Rinneport someone into his Chidori?

No. Sasuke should rinneport his penis from your mouth though.